Re: Circular dependencies in RPM

2014-08-22 Thread Dusty Mabe
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 02:29:31PM -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 08/22/2014 02:23 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote: > >The scenario I am concerned with here is: > > > >if > > * A requires B > > * B requires C > > * C requires A > > > >This basically yields a case where ordering can't be properly done b

Re: Circular dependencies in RPM

2014-08-22 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 08/22/2014 02:23 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote: The scenario I am concerned with here is: if * A requires B * B requires C * C requires A This basically yields a case where ordering can't be properly done because rpm doesn't know which dependency is stronger. If all of the rpms in question just

Re: Circular dependencies in RPM

2014-08-22 Thread Dusty Mabe
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 10:11:25PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 22.08.2014 um 21:53 schrieb Dusty Mabe: > > I know I have probably been hiding under a Rock but can anyone help me > > understand Fedora's stance on circular dependencies within RPMs? > > > > At least in the past I think circu

OCaml 4.02.0+rc1 rebuild (was: Re: Contacting the Ocaml maintainers)

2014-08-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
And would this be a good place to say that the OCaml 4.02.0+rc1 rebuild is now under way? Well, it is. I'm expecting that all packages should rebuild without any problems. It may take a couple of days to rebuild them all. This rebuild only affects Rawhide. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualiza

Re: Contacting the Ocaml maintainers

2014-08-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 10:12:52PM +0200, Dan Horák wrote: > On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 21:01:16 +0100 > "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 09:17:16PM +0200, Dan Horák wrote: > > > On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 21:11:50 +0200 > > > Florian Weimer wrote: > > > > > > > What is the recommend

Re: Contacting the Ocaml maintainers

2014-08-22 Thread Dan Horák
On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 21:01:16 +0100 "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 09:17:16PM +0200, Dan Horák wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 21:11:50 +0200 > > Florian Weimer wrote: > > > > > What is the recommended way to contact the Ocaml maintainers? > > > > > > There is a systematic

Re: Circular dependencies in RPM

2014-08-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.08.2014 um 21:53 schrieb Dusty Mabe: > I know I have probably been hiding under a Rock but can anyone help me > understand Fedora's stance on circular dependencies within RPMs? > > At least in the past I think circular dependencies have been kept to a minimum > as it can cause issues with

Re: Contacting the Ocaml maintainers

2014-08-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 09:17:16PM +0200, Dan Horák wrote: > On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 21:11:50 +0200 > Florian Weimer wrote: > > > What is the recommended way to contact the Ocaml maintainers? > > > > There is a systematic packaging bug which introduces unusable i686 > > packages into the x86_64 comp

Circular dependencies in RPM

2014-08-22 Thread Dusty Mabe
I know I have probably been hiding under a Rock but can anyone help me understand Fedora's stance on circular dependencies within RPMs? At least in the past I think circular dependencies have been kept to a minimum as it can cause issues with rpm sorting: i.e. for two rpms A,B with a circular de

Re: Contacting the Ocaml maintainers

2014-08-22 Thread Dan Horák
On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 21:11:50 +0200 Florian Weimer wrote: > What is the recommended way to contact the Ocaml maintainers? > > There is a systematic packaging bug which introduces unusable i686 > packages into the x86_64 compose, and despite repeated messages to > ocaml-devel, I did not receive a

Contacting the Ocaml maintainers

2014-08-22 Thread Florian Weimer
What is the recommended way to contact the Ocaml maintainers? There is a systematic packaging bug which introduces unusable i686 packages into the x86_64 compose, and despite repeated messages to ocaml-devel, I did not receive a response:

5tFTW: LinuxCon, Fedora Governance/Leadership, Design FAD, F21 Alpha Freeze, and Fedora in Linux Pro Magazine (2014-08-19)

2014-08-22 Thread Matthew Miller
Reposted from . Fedora is a big project, and it’s hard to follow it all. This series highlights interesting happenings in five different areas every week. It isn’t comprehensive news coverage — just quick summaries with links to each. Here are the five

[Base] Fedora Base Design Working Group (2014-08-22) meeting minutes and logs

2014-08-22 Thread Phil Knirsch
Thanks to Lennart for joining our meeting today. We really only covered the subpackage config topic today and Lennart gave a very detailed and long explanation of the systemd and /etc handling with some ideas and outlooks for the future and we discussed some of the specifics where needed. Vacl

rawhide report: 20140822 changes

2014-08-22 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Broken deps for i386 -- [APLpy] APLpy-0.9.8-5.fc21.noarch requires pywcs [PyKDE] PyKDE-3.16.6-14.fc20.i686 requires sip-api(10) >= 0:10.0 [PyQuante] PyQuante-libint-1.6.4-11.fc22.1.i686 requires libint(x86-32) = 0:1.1.

libicu upgrade to 53.1 with soname bump in rawhide

2014-08-22 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi, I plan to upgrade libicu to 53.1 next week in rawhide, which as usual comes with a soname bump. David Tardon will help with rebuilding the dependent packages. I promise to ping him once the build is ready this time ;-) Eike -- LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n tra

Re: The xtrace package needs to be removed from Fedora

2014-08-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 09:37:55 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 02:13:43PM +0100, David Howells wrote: > > David Howells wrote: > > > > > > I can see a "fedpkg retire" option for removing it from Rawhide > > > > > > Which doesn't work, possibly due to a script error: > > >

F-21 Branched report: 20140822 changes

2014-08-22 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Fri Aug 22 07:15:02 UTC 2014 Broken deps for armhfp -- [APLpy] APLpy-0.9.8-5.fc21.noarch requires pywcs [PyKDE] PyKDE-3.16.6-14.fc20.armv7hl requires sip-api(10) >= 0:10.0 [PyQuante] PyQuante-libint-

Re: How quickly should we retire orphaned packages?

2014-08-22 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 11:02:23 -0400 (EDT) Miloslav Trmač wrote: > Hello, > - Original Message - > > As requested on this ticket, I'm opening this up for discussion. > > https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1332 > > > (a) The reason for wanti

PSA: COPR rhughes/f20-gnome-3-14 has been removed

2014-08-22 Thread Richard Hughes
Hi all. If you're using rhughes/f20-gnome-3-14 then please upgrade to Fedora 21. I've found COPR is increasingly unable to keep up with the upstream builds and at this point it probably makes more sense to be QA testing the looming release anyway. If you've got the repo installed on your computer,

[Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 22 August 2014 15:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting

2014-08-22 Thread Phil Knirsch
Agenda: - Status update builrequires/reproducible builds cleanup - Subpackage config file discussion - Systemd in Docker discussion - Open floor -- Philipp Knirsch | Tel.: +49-711-96437-470 Manager Core Services| Fax.: +49-711-96437-111 Red Hat GmbH | Em

Re: How quickly should we retire orphaned packages?

2014-08-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 07:57:43PM +0200, Till Maas wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 03:11:53PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > (a) The reason for wanting packages to be retired so quickly has not > > been made clear by rel-eng. > > Miloslav explained this nicely. > > > (b) The biggest re