fedpkg build failing (due to NSS?)

2014-03-02 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
Hello, I'm trying to make an update for #1071795 using 'fedpkg build' for gnutls fails consistently for f20 and rawhide with the error: "BuildrootError: could not init mock buildroot, mock exited with status 30; see root.log for more information" Although it says see root.log, I don't see anythin

Re: Has support for Pentium III been terminated?

2014-03-02 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:23 AM, Felix Miata wrote: > I have a F20 I switched to Rawhide on host gx150. Shortly after getting KDE > started, the system reboots. Something similar happens in openSUSE: > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856606 > > Older releases are OK, so hardware should

Re: copr epel-7-ppc64?

2014-03-02 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 03/01/2014 05:32 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: Is there any chance of being able to do epel-7-ppc64 copr builds anytime in the near future? I'd to test if a particular fix to gcc will fix an ICE I'm seeing while compiling eigen3. copr seems to be the only tool that could be available to me to d

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-03-02 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 2, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Nathanael Noblet wrote: > On 03/01/2014 04:57 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> The servers were rented with a Fedora produced default/automatic/guided >> partitioning layout? If not, your example is out of scope. We are only >> talking about this context specifically, not

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-03-02 Thread Nathanael Noblet
On 03/01/2014 04:57 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: The servers were rented with a Fedora produced default/automatic/guided partitioning layout? If not, your example is out of scope. We are only talking about this context specifically, not arbitrary examples for shrinking a file system. The Fedora aut

Has support for Pentium III been terminated?

2014-03-02 Thread Felix Miata
I have a F20 I switched to Rawhide on host gx150. Shortly after getting KDE started, the system reboots. Something similar happens in openSUSE: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856606 Older releases are OK, so hardware should still be working OK. Memtest86+ found no errors in one fu

Re: automating testing (was: default file system)

2014-03-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 10:24:45AM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Mar 2, 2014, at 7:27 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > > There was a *great* talk at either FOSDEM or DevConf about what > > OpenSUSE is using for automation of their UIs. > > It's all open source, > > easy to create the scr

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-03-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.03.2014 19:38, schrieb Chris Murphy: > Is it reasonable to expose untested features in the UI? RAID 1 and RAID 10 > are probably > reasonably well tested because they meet the requirements (and then some) for > many use > cases. We have test cases for them. There are no RAID 4 or RAID 6 t

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-03-02 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 2, 2014, at 6:17 AM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > > Chris Murphy writes: > >>> Okay, I'll bite. Why not rootfs on raid6? > >> It's pathological. > > Sick? Non-functional? Unlucky? Compulsive as in doing something merely because it can be done, but also not well-behaved, and counter

Fwd: AFK notice

2014-03-02 Thread H . Guémar
Hi, I'm back. 2014-02-22 11:19 GMT+01:00 Matthias Runge : > Does that also mean, you're changing jobs? You mentioned something like > you're at least interested in a jobs at Red Hat in the cloud area? > > Sadly enough, I haven't changed jobs, yet. I can't dwell upon this topic on a public list

automating testing (was: default file system)

2014-03-02 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 2, 2014, at 7:27 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > There was a *great* talk at either FOSDEM or DevConf about what > OpenSUSE is using for automation of their UIs. > It's all open source, > easy to create the scripts using a GUI, and you can fiddle around with > bits of Javascript to fin

Re: Server Technical Specification: Agenda and First Draft

2014-03-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 02:58:41PM +0530, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: > On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 02:56:52PM +0100, drago01 wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Stephen Gallagher > > wrote: > > [. . .] > > > SELinux working with it now. > > dargo01: I think that statement may be evolving ? >

Re: packages from bitbucket

2014-03-02 Thread Christopher Meng
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: > Hi, > > Maybe we should add guidelines for bitbucket. That could be very > similar to github's template: > > === > %global owner $OWNER > %global tag $TAG > %global commit $COMMIT > %global shortcommit %(c=%{commit}; ech

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-03-02 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 02/27/2014 02:43 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/27/2014 12:18 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Josef Bacik mailto:jo...@toxicpanda.com>> wrote: Just popping in here to say that btrfs is not ready to be default in Fedora y

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-03-02 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 03/02/2014 01:17 PM, Ian Malone wrote: Can we get some definition of "legacy" here? kernel/nfs-utils versions? > I'd have to check what I can share. If it helps: not current RHEL or recent Fedora, until recently some that were over five years old. Also this comment in the XFS FAQ: "Beware th

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-03-02 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 03/01/2014 10:19 PM, Jon wrote: The inability to shrink or reduce XFS is rather disappointing. I've seen a few sarcastic remarks along the lines of (paraphrased): why would anyone ever want to shrink a volume? If you use a dm-thin target with a shared storage pool (even if the file system i

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-03-02 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 03/01/2014 08:51 AM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Chris Murphy said: >There are good reasons to use XFS by default for Server. Are they listed somewhere? XFS has many advantages: * best performance for most workloads (especially with high speed storage and larger number of core

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-03-02 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 02/28/2014 07:56 AM, James Wilson Harshaw IV wrote: Yet what was the main point that it wasn't ready yet? My point is we should choose the best solution, even if it takes a little more work to get it up and running. I want to know what it will take to make sure btrfs is good to go as default

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-03-02 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 02/28/2014 06:20 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Chris Murphy wrote: by default we put ext4 on LVM The tool works in this use-case unless something has broken it recently. It can be done, the convert tool should work, and Btrfs should work

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-03-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 01:03:38PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > What I came up with is this gem: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_storage_matrix [...] > Some of this is susceptible to automation, but some is not, in the sense > that it involves the UI, and automated UI tes

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-03-02 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Chris Murphy writes: > > Okay, I'll bite. Why not rootfs on raid6? > It's pathological. Sick? Non-functional? Unlucky? > There are too many simpler, faster, more resilient options > considering rootfs at most isn't bigger than the average SSD: Two or > three SSDs + n-way mirroring. RAID 10

Re: packages from bitbucket

2014-03-02 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
Hi, Maybe we should add guidelines for bitbucket. That could be very similar to github's template: === %global owner $OWNER %global tag $TAG %global commit $COMMIT %global shortcommit %(c=%{commit}; echo ${c:0:12}) ... Source0:https://bitbucket.org/%{owner}/%{name}/ge

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-03-02 Thread Ian Malone
On 1 March 2014 21:37, Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 03/01/2014 02:30 PM, Ian Malone wrote: >> On 1 March 2014 18:57, Simo Sorce wrote: >>> On Sat, 2014-03-01 at 12:04 +, Ian Malone wrote: On 28 February 2014 20:45, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 23:16 -0700, Chris Mur

Re: systeminfo review

2014-03-02 Thread Pavol Ipoth
Hi, can somebody please review package systeminfo, it is there for several months, i am new to package maintaining. Thanks. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1058038 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code o

Re: PHP 5.6.0

2014-03-02 Thread Remi Collet
Le 28/02/2014 15:25, Remi Collet a écrit : > Hi, > > PHP 5.6.0 will be soon in "beta" stage. > (5.6.0alpha3 is available and should be the last alpha) > > > So I start working on PHP 5.6 packaging. > > For those interested, for now, this happens in my personal repository > (remi-dev). > > Fedo