On Mar 2, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Nathanael Noblet <nathan...@gnat.ca> wrote:

> On 03/01/2014 04:57 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> The servers were rented with a Fedora produced default/automatic/guided 
>> partitioning layout? If not, your example is out of scope. We are only 
>> talking about this context specifically, not arbitrary examples for 
>> shrinking a file system. The Fedora automatic/guided partition layout is a 
>> rootfs of 50GB, and any significant additional space goes to a separate 
>> /home. So you're saying you'd shrink a 50GB rootfs for encrypted data, 
>> rather than blow away the /home LV, make a new LV, encrypt it, then format 
>> it?
> 
> They were CentOS 6 machines. So perhaps the defaults are different however 
> this is something that happened to me and not being able to shrink a fs would 
> have been problematic / costly for me. Granted the default there was /boot / 
> and swap so I had a 900G / and nothing else thus the shrinking of the / fs. 
> So I suppose that if the servers were fedora and had a /home LV this 
> particular situation wouldn't have been an issue.
> 
> I just wanted to point out that shrinking a partition is a valid use case is 
> all. In our current default fedora layout I could still accomplish what I 
> needed. But shrinking a fs is a valid use case…

Fair enough, and I'm not suggesting shrink is invalid for that matter. I merely 
want to understand the actual requirement because there may be better ways to 
address it.

> 
> Given the XFS shrinking issue it might even be nice to not allocate ALL 
> storage, create /, swap and /home without taking up all storage and then let 
> people enlarge what they need…

It's an interesting suggestion. But does this really apply to the target 
audience of users who are a.) using a GUI installer, and b.) choosing to use an 
automatic/guided partitioning layout? Is that sort of user likely to jump into 
a resize operation from the command line post-install? Why wouldn't they just 
use Manual Partitioning?

What you suggest might seem plausible for Server. But I don't think that's a 
good idea for Workstation, to burden the user with an incomplete partition 
layout that (silently) proposes they complete or customize it post-install.



Chris Murphy

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