Re: Review swaps: perl-Parse-DebControl, devscripts, debian-keyring, ubuntu-keyring, jetring + question: where to install keyrings?

2013-09-22 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > This has the downside that it'll add the dependency on gnupg, > which is not great. Maybe simply create a keyrings-filesystem > package with this directory and have whoever installs keyrings > depend on it. If gnupg owns the di

Re: Review swaps: perl-Parse-DebControl, devscripts, debian-keyring, ubuntu-keyring, jetring + question: where to install keyrings?

2013-09-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:14:29AM +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: > > On 20.09.2013 06:37, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 06:41:03PM +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: > >>Hi, > >> > >>In the hope to continue the effort of getting pbuilder (and hence an > >>easy way to build deb p

Re: [HEADSUP] Atlas changed libraries

2013-09-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 08:27:52PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > However, ATLAS still has different flavors for different CPUs (e.g. > > 3dnow, sse, sse2, sse3 etc). I'm not sure if this can be easily handled > > with alternatives. > Please don't [to ATLAS upstream, not Susi] do this. It br

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread David
On 9/22/2013 6:25 PM, David wrote: > On 9/22/2013 6:03 PM, drago01 wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:28 PM, David wrote: >> >> No he didn't. >> > > > Sure he did. > > The only novice that would install Linux by himself in some form would > be, IMHO, someone that is using WinXP and has been t

Re: [HEADSUP] Atlas changed libraries

2013-09-22 Thread Susi Lehtola
On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 23:42:05 +0200 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Susi Lehtola wrote: > > I might mention that OpenBLAS (successor to GotoBLAS) is in Fedora, > > which is often 2x faster than ATLAS. But, it's only available on > > ix86 and x86_64. It does have runtime CPU detection, though for the > > 20-o

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread David
On 9/22/2013 6:03 PM, drago01 wrote: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:28 PM, David wrote: > > No he didn't. > Sure he did. The only novice that would install Linux by himself in some form would be, IMHO, someone that is using WinXP and has been told it is soon EOL. And doesn't want to buy a new c

Re: Review swaps: perl-Parse-DebControl, devscripts, debian-keyring, ubuntu-keyring, jetring + question: where to install keyrings?

2013-09-22 Thread Sandro Mani
On 20.09.2013 06:37, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 06:41:03PM +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: Hi, In the hope to continue the effort of getting pbuilder (and hence an easy way to build deb packages from fedora) into the repos (review here: [1]), I've packaged devscripts,

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread drago01
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:28 PM, David wrote: > On 9/22/2013 5:11 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: >> On 22.09.2013 18:34, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> >>> Am 22.09.2013 18:30, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:24:45 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 22.09.2013 18:13, schrieb Jan

Re: [HEADSUP] Atlas changed libraries

2013-09-22 Thread Kevin Kofler
Susi Lehtola wrote: > I might mention that OpenBLAS (successor to GotoBLAS) is in Fedora, > which is often 2x faster than ATLAS. But, it's only available on ix86 > and x86_64. It does have runtime CPU detection, though for the 20-odd > CPUs supported. That's great, but if programs are now going to

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread David
On 9/22/2013 5:11 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > On 22.09.2013 18:34, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 22.09.2013 18:30, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: >>> On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:24:45 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.09.2013 18:13, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: > My grandfather still believes those a

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 22.09.2013 18:34, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 22.09.2013 18:30, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: >> On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:24:45 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> Am 22.09.2013 18:13, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: My grandfather still believes those are multiple _different_ Fedora installations, each

Project take up:Infrastructure-Search

2013-09-22 Thread Frankie Onuonga
Hi guys, I am looking to take up a project that i saw had been left idle for sometime. The project URL is:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Search I said in sometime because of what is listed at:https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1055 If this is possible, kindly do

Re: [HEADSUP] Atlas changed libraries

2013-09-22 Thread Susi Lehtola
On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 20:27:52 +0100 "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > > However, ATLAS still has different flavors for different CPUs (e.g. > > 3dnow, sse, sse2, sse3 etc). I'm not sure if this can be easily > > handled with alternatives. > > G. > > Please don't [to ATLAS upstream, not Susi] do t

Re: [HEADSUP] Atlas changed libraries

2013-09-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 10:05:12PM +0300, Susi Lehtola wrote: > On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 19:22:11 -0600 > Jerry James wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Frantisek Kluknavsky > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Atlas in rawhide is rebased to 3.10.1. It now builds monolithic > > > shared librar

Re: [HEADSUP] Atlas changed libraries

2013-09-22 Thread Susi Lehtola
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 19:22:11 -0600 Jerry James wrote: > On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Frantisek Kluknavsky > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Atlas in rawhide is rebased to 3.10.1. It now builds monolithic > > shared libraries libsatlas.so and libtatlas.so (serial and > > threaded, otherwise identical)

Re: F20 Alpha Impressions

2013-09-22 Thread Kevin Kofler
Erinn Looney-Triggs wrote: > The new display manager for KDE, SDDM, doesn't seem to work so well in > an IPA environment. Even after adjusting the upper limit in > /etc/sddm.conf to include the insanely high UIDs that IPA hands out no > users appeared in the login box and as such I was unable to mo

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2013 18:30, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: > On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:24:45 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 22.09.2013 18:13, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: >>> My grandfather still believes those are multiple _different_ Fedora >>> installations, each having different games/files. As he has also Cent

[OT] Integrated circuits can be compromised using Undetectable hardware Trojans

2013-09-22 Thread Dario Lesca
This is not a good news: http://thehackernews.com/2013/09/Undetectable-hardware-Trojans.html IMHO, There is no way to protect from this attack, without hardware open source. Only the Occam's razor[1] can help us: disconnect from the mains all machines. Bye [1] - http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/OCCAMRA

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/22/2013 06:13 PM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 03:21:32 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: now we have exactly what i said will happen: users in trouble does not know how to boot the still installed older kernel because they never learned that there are more than one because they ne

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:24:45 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 22.09.2013 18:13, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: > > My grandfather still believes those are multiple _different_ Fedora > > installations, each having different games/files. As he has also CentOS > > menu > > item there having multiple Fedor

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2013 18:13, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: > On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 03:21:32 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> now we have exactly what i said will happen: users in trouble does not know >> how to >> boot the still installed older kernel because they never learned that there >> are >> more than one

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 03:21:32 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > now we have exactly what i said will happen: users in trouble does not know > how to > boot the still installed older kernel because they never learned that there > are > more than one because they never faced it as all the years before

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Clive Hills
Err aren't these *fedora* lists. We show the grub menu. *plonk* Clive On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 22.09.2013 18:00, schrieb drago01: > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Reindl Harald > wrote: > >> Am 22.09.2013 17:36, schrieb drago01: > >>> On Sun, Sep 22, 20

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2013 18:00, schrieb drago01: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 22.09.2013 17:36, schrieb drago01: >>> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Reindl Harald >>> wrote: Am 22.09.2013 02:52, schrieb Ed Greshko: > On 09/22/13 08:39, Timothy Murphy wrote:

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread drago01
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 22.09.2013 17:36, schrieb drago01: >> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> Am 22.09.2013 02:52, schrieb Ed Greshko: On 09/22/13 08:39, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > >>> I've been

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2013 17:36, schrieb drago01: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 22.09.2013 02:52, schrieb Ed Greshko: >>> On 09/22/13 08:39, Timothy Murphy wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: >> I've been having a problem on my Thinkpad T61 for the last 2 days. >> In f

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread drago01
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 22.09.2013 02:52, schrieb Ed Greshko: >> On 09/22/13 08:39, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>> Ed Greshko wrote: >>> > I've been having a problem on my Thinkpad T61 for the last 2 days. > In fact since "yum update" installed kernel-PAE-3.11

hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2013 02:52, schrieb Ed Greshko: > On 09/22/13 08:39, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Ed Greshko wrote: >> I've been having a problem on my Thinkpad T61 for the last 2 days. In fact since "yum update" installed kernel-PAE-3.11.1-200.fc19.i686, though that is probably a coincidence.

Re: does mc really require perl*?

2013-09-22 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 20:37:50 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > who is using "mc" on a full featured desktop? > typically it is used where you do not have a fat graphical filemanager Point me to such graphical filemanager. I fail to see even a decent gui alternative to mc under linux. MC *is* typically