Re: Changes to make MySQL vs. MariaDB less confusing

2013-08-22 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:27 AM, Bjorn Munch wrote: > On 21/08 17.26, Ken Dreyer wrote: >> Are the Oracle employees still around? > > Yes we are! Sorry for the long silence. The window for F19 closed so > it became less urgent, then I had vacation, was sick, then others here > were on vacation but

Re: Bundled Flash

2013-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 21:47 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > As plupload is a .sh not a .as3 I *think* we may be able to build it > with swfc. I'll see whether that's possible. plupload looks like, well, a giant pain in the ass. It depends on a bit called moxie which is just kinda smooshed into th

Re: Bundled Flash

2013-08-22 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On 8/15/13, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > It's come to my attention that a number of packages contain Flash (.swf) > files, > but absolutely none of them have BuildRequires on a free software Flash > toolchain, nor do any of them seem to be shipping the source for these > files. > :-( > > It has nev

Re: Bundled Flash

2013-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 20:20 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On 8/22/13, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Looked into this a bit further this afternoon. Both swfupload and > > plupload are open source projects, but Wordpress ships compiled binaries > > in its 'source tarball', there is no build system

Re: Bundled Flash

2013-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 20:20 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > What were the people who made this thing thinking, anyway? "UPLOAD WIDGETS FOR ALL THE THINGS!!!11", I think. If we could actually build the blobs I was thinking of setting up the package to build them in a separate tree then drop th

Re: Bundled Flash

2013-08-22 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On 8/22/13, Adam Williamson wrote: > Looked into this a bit further this afternoon. Both swfupload and > plupload are open source projects, but Wordpress ships compiled binaries > in its 'source tarball', there is no build system in there for them at > all. Wordpress posts the sources for them on

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
You forgot the third camp, who want their release names without punctuation so it doesn't break a decade of configuration scripting. Releases need punctuation and non-7-bit ASCII in their names like goldfish need martinis. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013

F20 release name election

2013-08-22 Thread Matt Eskes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 FINALLY! there was someone who hated release names as much, if not more than I. I say we forgo a release name on f20, as well. M On 08/22/2013 07:29 PM, devel-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: > Send devel mailing list submissions to > devel@li

Re: bug filed against "distribution"

2013-08-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.08.2013 01:50, schrieb Adam Williamson: > On Fri, 2013-08-16 at 22:05 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> since i have enough of bugzilla-mails as response of bugreports >> containing referecnes to any Fedora version but not the reported >> i consider this as bug in the distribution itself >> >>

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013, Chris Murphy wrote: On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but there are essentially two camps right now. Those that don't care about release names one bit (like me), and those that do. If those that do care want better names, t

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > > I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but there are essentially two camps > right now. Those that don't care about release names one bit (like > me), and those that do. If those that do care want better names, > they'll need to work harder at creat

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Billy Crook
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: >> >> How about no release name, just this one time. In his honor? > > I'd back no release name for 20 with 8 points and 0 for everything else, if > it's an option, and in particular if the mark

Re: F19 server install experience

2013-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 18:30 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > No, we're not talking about the bash prompt on tty2, but there's an > > actual *login prompt* on like tty6 or something. So far as I and the OP > > knows, there is no account with a

Re: Bundled Flash

2013-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-08-16 at 01:42 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2013-08-16 at 15:41 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > > WordPress? > > > > Not easy. > > Two of the ones in wordpress are both in upload libraries - plupload and > swfupload. Both are present in the source tarball, it doesn't look

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: > > The choices are what the community came up with. At this point, that > is what we have to chose from. > > I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but there are essentially two camps > right now.

Re: F19 server install experience

2013-08-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > No, we're not talking about the bash prompt on tty2, but there's an > actual *login prompt* on like tty6 or something. So far as I and the OP > knows, there is no account with a known password for you log in as, and > you have the root prompt

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: > > How about no release name, just this one time. In his honor? I'd back no release name for 20 with 8 points and 0 for everything else, if it's an option, and in particular if the marketing includes to the effect of: "Fedora 20 is nameless in h

Re: F19 server install experience

2013-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 18:16 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Aug 22, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 11:57 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > >> On 08/17/2013 12:28 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > Yeah, I've seen that kind of thing in some of my tests. A lot of my li

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 18:11 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Aug 22, 2013, at 3:03 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > QA, releng and anaconda are on a more or less permanent iteration > > treadmill from Alpha TC1 onwards, severely limiting the time we have to > > work on anything else. We can only

Re: F19 server install experience

2013-08-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 22, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 11:57 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> On 08/17/2013 12:28 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Yeah, I've seen that kind of thing in some of my tests. A lot of my live > installs wind up with New York as the timezone, IIRC. I'm

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> *smack own forehead* I like that better than the other options also. For me, >> one extra point for Vidalia onion over "20". >> >> Heck I like "Crazy Train" based on a recent Matthew Mill

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 22, 2013, at 3:03 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > QA, releng and anaconda are on a more or less permanent iteration > treadmill from Alpha TC1 onwards, severely limiting the time we have to > work on anything else. We can only really get substantive work done on > 'things that are not rele

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > *smack own forehead* I like that better than the other options also. For me, > one extra point for Vidalia onion over "20". > > Heck I like "Crazy Train" based on a recent Matthew Miller assertion. > > Assuming there can be no late add ins th

Re: F19 server install experience

2013-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 11:57 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 08/17/2013 12:28 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> VLAN setup for installing! Yay! However, after rebooting, > >> NetworkManager wasn't able to bring it up, something about not knowing > >> the "virtual interface name". Turned out to be th

Re: bug filed against "distribution"

2013-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-08-16 at 22:05 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > since i have enough of bugzilla-mails as response of bugreports > containing referecnes to any Fedora version but not the reported > i consider this as bug in the distribution itself > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=998035 >

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 22, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > some of the things I would like to work on include, fully automating > the release process, today i have to do mutliple things from multiple > locations to trigger off the different pieces of the release. write a > tool like mash for pulling

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen > wrote: >> I believe that it was decided that like had been done in the past, this >> release would be dedicated to Seth Vidal, but not named after him as Seth >> hated released names with a

Re: Changes to make MySQL vs. MariaDB less confusing

2013-08-22 Thread Andrew Rist
On 8/21/2013 5:01 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Ken Dreyer said: I fear a similar fate is going to befall mysql-workbench before too long, since it's been orphaned for a while. Are the Oracle employees still around? I looked a while back, and it is marked "deprecated" in the Fedora

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread punto...@libero.it
Il 23/08/2013 01:22, punto...@libero.it ha scritto: Il 22/08/2013 22:53, Dan Mashal ha scritto: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: I believe that it was decided that like had been done in the past, this release would be dedicated to Seth Vidal, but not named after him

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread punto...@libero.it
Il 22/08/2013 22:53, Dan Mashal ha scritto: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: I believe that it was decided that like had been done in the past, this release would be dedicated to Seth Vidal, but not named after him as Seth hated released names with a white hot passio

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread punto...@libero.it
Il 23/08/2013 01:08, David ha scritto: On 8/22/2013 7:03 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: [Of course he would probably still laugh if the release was named Vidalia Onion] HEY! Why isn't Vidalia Onion one of the name options? That's way bette

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread David
On 8/22/2013 7:03 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > >> [Of course he would probably still laugh if the release was named Vidalia >> Onion] > > HEY! Why isn't Vidalia Onion one of the name options? That's way better than > any of the other

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > [Of course he would probably still laugh if the release was named Vidalia > Onion] HEY! Why isn't Vidalia Onion one of the name options? That's way better than any of the other options. Chris Murphy -- devel mailing list devel@lis

Re: Proposal for new package group: Development:Formal Methods Tools

2013-08-22 Thread Jerry James
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 1:31 PM, John C. Peterson wrote: > I would like to edit comps.xml to add a new package group for the tools > that have already been packaged by the Formal Methods SIG. > > I propose that the group be located under the "Development" category. > > Id: formal-methods-tools > N

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 17:19 +0200, drago01 wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Matthew Miller > wrote: > > Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo > > meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle > > for Fedora 21 -- not (right

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > I believe that it was decided that like had been done in the past, this > release would be dedicated to Seth Vidal, but not named after him as Seth > hated released names with a white hot passion of 10,000 supernovas. [Of > course he w

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 22 August 2013 14:45, Dan Mashal wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Stephen John Smoogen > wrote: > > > > > What happened to naming 20 in honor of Seth? > > Dan > > I believe that it was decided that like had been done in the past, this release would be dedicated to Seth Vidal, but no

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > On 22 August 2013 13:31, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/relnamef20 >> >> Is this thing for real? >> >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/ >> says the End Date is 2013-08-23 23:59

[389-devel] Please review (coverity fix): [389 Project] #48: Active Directory has certain uids which are reserved and will cause a Directory Server replica initialization of an AD server to abort.

2013-08-22 Thread Noriko Hosoi
https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/48 https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/48/0001-Ticket-48-Active-Directory-has-certain-uids-which-ar.2.patch git patch file (master) -- fixing Coverity CID 11943 Coverity CID 11943 - Logically dead code Fix description: The following commit mistak

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Till Maas
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:41:25AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:00:54 +0200 > Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > ...snip... > > > > What Infrastructure projects would be helped by this? > > A web infrastructure to > > * ease package orphanage. > > * launch AWOL/MIA requests > > * a

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Till Maas
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:03:52AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > As we look at Fedora.next ideas and possibly decide to start implementation > in the F21 timeframe, we will likely find _new_ things that take specific > work. Let's not worry about that right now. What things we do _now_ could be >

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 22 August 2013 13:31, Michael Schwendt wrote: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/relnamef20 > > Is this thing for real? > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/ > says the End Date is 2013-08-23 23:59:59. > > Where has it been announced this time? > There's nothing in the archiv

F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/relnamef20 Is this thing for real? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/ says the End Date is 2013-08-23 23:59:59. Where has it been announced this time? There's nothing in the archives for announce and devel-announce list. -- devel mailing list d

[perl-Carp-Fix-1_25/f20] (2 commits) ...Unbundle Test-Simple and use the system one (#998410)

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: 2c4bf77... Initial import (perl-Carp-Fix-1_25-1.01-2) (*) 6123b32... Unbundle Test-Simple and use the system one (#998410) (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SI

[perl-YAML-Tiny] Created tag perl-YAML-Tiny-1.54-1.fc21

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-YAML-Tiny-1.54-1.fc21' was created pointing to: 534335f... Update to 1.54 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel

[perl-YAML-Tiny] Created tag perl-YAML-Tiny-1.54-1.fc20

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
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[perl-Test-Kwalitee] Update to 1.13

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
commit f6fd2cd1da5e06972c74e36f0f6f6c3a0f8d1175 Author: Paul Howarth Date: Thu Aug 22 19:42:55 2013 +0100 Update to 1.13 - New upstream release 1.13 - Added missing abstract for kwalitee-metrics script - No longer issuing a warning if the test is running from xt/ (see v

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread drago01
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:37 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 08/22/2013 03:19 PM, drago01 wrote: >> >> Given that most of this stuff can be done parallel to the release (it >> is not like everyone is busy for full 6 months during the release >> cycle) I doubt this gains us much if anything

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Alec Leamas
On 2013-08-22 19:20, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:27:47 +0200, Alec Leamas wrote: The overall results with some comments are at http://ur1.ca/f5xxw . The CheckSoFiles results might be .so plug-in libs (extension modules), which are stored in private paths, i.e. outside run-

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/22/2013 03:19 PM, drago01 wrote: Given that most of this stuff can be done parallel to the release (it is not like everyone is busy for full 6 months during the release cycle) I doubt this gains us much if anything. This is laughable response we in QA and I'm pretty sure it's the same fo

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:38:38AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > In general most of our constraints are people related. We just don't > have enough developers and sysadmins to setup, deploy and maintain all > the things we might want to do. I definitely know how that is. Of the list you give, maybe

Rebuilding in dependency order (was: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?)

2013-08-22 Thread Björn Persson
Miroslav Suchy wrote: >On 08/22/2013 06:47 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> Well, I noticed the rebuild was running only some times. I assume >> when they were there to launch the builds in that batch? >> >> Is there any way all the builds could be listed and just fired off >> and queued all at once? > >P

Re: Self Introduction

2013-08-22 Thread Frankie Onuonga
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Rolf Fokkens wrote: > Hi All, > > Having a great interrest in combining both the qualities of SSD's (speed) > and the qualities of HDD's (capacity) I added the following change: > https://fedoraproject.org/**wiki/Changes/SSD_cache

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Tim Flink
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:03:52 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the > FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer > release cycle for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger > question of the 6-month cycle

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:10:12 +0200, Alec Leamas wrote: > > Funny! I'm interested in hearing more about these, > > > >| 347 CheckStaticLibs > >|Static libs not in a -static package. Most are haskell packages > >|which have an exception not handled by f-r. There are more,

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:27:47 +0200, Alec Leamas wrote: > The overall results with some comments are at http://ur1.ca/f5xxw . The CheckSoFiles results might be .so plug-in libs (extension modules), which are stored in private paths, i.e. outside run-time linker's search. Or even non-versioned sh

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Miroslav Suchy
On 08/22/2013 06:47 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Well, I noticed the rebuild was running only some times. I assume when they were there to launch the builds in that batch? Is there any way all the builds could be listed and just fired off and queued all at once? Peter queue honor build requires (Den

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/22/2013 03:03 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger question of the 6-month cycle overall, but just,

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:00:54 +0200 Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 08/22/2013 05:03 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the > > FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer >

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:27:20 +0200 Ralf Corsepius wrote: > The issue with this perl rebuilt was the person conducting the > initial rebuild didn't manage to finish it. Don't get me wrong - He > did a good job, but his time frame simply was unrealistically short. Well, I noticed the rebuild was r

Re: koji/f19 problem: kernel-xen.fc10 (!) pulled in for kernel?

2013-08-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:17:32AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 14:23:55 +0100 > "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > > > > > Anyone want to hazard a guess about what's going on here? > > http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:03:52 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the > FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer > release cycle for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger > question of the 6-month cycle

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:00:54 +0200 Ralf Corsepius wrote: ...snip... > > What Infrastructure projects would be helped by this? > A web infrastructure to > * ease package orphanage. > * launch AWOL/MIA requests > * a unified koji/bodhi/bugzilla Web-GUI > * much longer build.log holding time for FT

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/22/2013 05:12 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:08:18PM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: What things we do _now_ could be improved with the investment of some effort? Perl rebuild always take a lot of time, and as a result it will affect the mass rebuild. Apparently les

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Alec Leamas
On 2013-08-22 17:45, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:27:47 +0200, Alec Leamas wrote: In an attempt to test fedora-review we have run it on almost allpackages in the complete rawhide distribution. Our primary objective is to certify that fedora-review is stable for all this kind o

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 16:03:22 +0200 Alec Leamas wrote: > On 2013-08-22 15:54, Richard Shaw wrote: > > Yes... sorry I assumed you knew... > > > > -ow...@fedoraproject.org > > > > Richard > No, I don't know much. > > Well, it should basically be piece of cake to gen

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/22/2013 05:03 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger question of the 6-month cycle overall, but just,

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Mat Booth
On 22 August 2013 16:03, Matthew Miller wrote: > Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo > meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle > for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger question of the > 6-month > cycle overall,

[perl-Perl6-Caller] Created tag perl-Perl6-Caller-0.100-2.el5

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Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Tim Flink
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:19:09 +0200 drago01 wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Matthew Miller > wrote: > > Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the > > FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer > > release cycle for Fedora 21 -- not (righ

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:27:47 +0200, Alec Leamas wrote: > In an attempt to test fedora-review we have run it on almost allpackages > in the complete rawhide distribution. Our primary objective is to > certify that fedora-review is stable for all this kind of input. Also, > these test reveals som

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:03:52 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the > FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer > release cycle for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at lea

Re: Wider feedback requested on two changes to our base/core defaults

2013-08-22 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Ondrej Vasik said: > I agree that opening square bracket is useless, but I want to have the > directory and $/# character separated. This prompt is well established, > however I agree that we can probably get one character less with > something like > foo@localhost lib>$ I free

Re: Scala package owner unresponsive

2013-08-22 Thread Jochen Schmitt
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 09:41:52PM -0600, Jerry James wrote: > On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Will Benton wrote: > > (1) As far as I can tell, the package for Scala 2.9.2 on F19 (2.9.2-2) has > > broken dependencies; I can't install it via yum on my new F19 install. Is > > this the case for

[perl-true] Created tag perl-true-0.18-2.fc19

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-true-0.18-2.fc19' was created pointing to: a4d4beb... Initial import (perl-true-0.18-2) -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinf

[perl-true] Created tag perl-true-0.18-2.fc21

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-true-0.18-2.fc21' was created pointing to: a4d4beb... Initial import (perl-true-0.18-2) -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinf

[perl-true] Created tag perl-true-0.18-2.fc20

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-true-0.18-2.fc20' was created pointing to: a4d4beb... Initial import (perl-true-0.18-2) -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinf

[389-devel] please review: Ticket 47394 - remove-ds.pl should remove /var/lock/dirsrv

2013-08-22 Thread Mark Reynolds
https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47394 https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47394/0001-Ticket-47394-remove-ds.pl-should-remove-var-lock-dir.patch -- Mark Reynolds 389 Development Team Red Hat, Inc mreyno...@redhat.com -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org http

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread drago01
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo > meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle > for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger question of the 6-month > cycle ove

Re: koji/f19 problem: kernel-xen.fc10 (!) pulled in for kernel?

2013-08-22 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 14:23:55 +0100 "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > > Anyone want to hazard a guess about what's going on here? > http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/1341/5841341/root.log > > The package, which builds fine in f20 and rawhide

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Christopher Meng
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > What things we do _now_ could be > improved with the investment of some effort? Perl rebuild always take a lot of time, and as a result it will affect the mass rebuild. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fed

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Matthew Miller > wrote: > > What things we do _now_ could be > > improved with the investment of some effort? > > Perl rebuild always take a lot of time, and as a result it will affect > the mass rebuild. It's unfortunately about P

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:08:18PM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > > What things we do _now_ could be > > improved with the investment of some effort? > Perl rebuild always take a lot of time, and as a result it will affect > the mass rebuild. Apparently less so with all the new ARM builders, rig

F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Matthew Miller
Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger question of the 6-month cycle overall, but just, right now, slowing down for a release to get som

[Bug 999032] perl-Ouch-0.0405 is available

2013-08-22 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=999032 Petr Šabata changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Fixed In Version|

[perl-true/f19] Initial import (perl-true-0.18-2)

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: a4d4beb... Initial import (perl-true-0.18-2) (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fed

Re: Wider feedback requested on two changes to our base/core defaults

2013-08-22 Thread Ondrej Vasik
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 08:21 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" said: > > You would just overwrite in in your own .bashrc if you have long > > hostname and they get in your way. > > > > Long hostnames are far more practical for administrators to use then > > shor

Re: koji/f19 problem: kernel-xen.fc10 (!) pulled in for kernel?

2013-08-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:03:06PM +0800, Mathieu Bridon wrote: > On Thursday, August 22, 2013 09:58 PM, drago01 wrote: > >On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Richard W.M. Jones > >wrote: > >> > >>Anyone want to hazard a guess about what's going on here? > >>http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/t

[perl-Perl6-Caller/f19] Initial import (perl-Perl6-Caller-0.100-2)

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: 9588ef9... Initial import (perl-Perl6-Caller-0.100-2) (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://

Re: koji/f19 problem: kernel-xen.fc10 (!) pulled in for kernel?

2013-08-22 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Thursday, August 22, 2013 09:58 PM, drago01 wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Anyone want to hazard a guess about what's going on here? http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/1341/5841341/root.log The package, which builds fine in f20 and rawhide, bui

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Alec Leamas
On 2013-08-22 15:54, Richard Shaw wrote: Yes... sorry I assumed you knew... -ow...@fedoraproject.org Richard No, I don't know much. Well, it should basically be piece of cake to generate such an email for all packages. Before doing such a thing I would certa

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Alec Leamas wrote: > The data is already parsed, I have tools to generate list of packages > failing a given test as well as all tests failing for a given package. > It's just that all this is quite a lot of data... > > No way this will happen often, though. This

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Alec Leamas
On 2013-08-22 15:41, Richard Shaw wrote: Very interesting... What's the possibility of parsing all the data and sending individual reports to -owner@ ? I don't know that I'd want to get this type of thing frequently, but once would be nice... Richard The data is already parsed, I hav

Re: koji/f19 problem: kernel-xen.fc10 (!) pulled in for kernel?

2013-08-22 Thread drago01
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > Anyone want to hazard a guess about what's going on here? > http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/1341/5841341/root.log > > The package, which builds fine in f20 and rawhide, buildrequires > the following: > > BuildRequires:

[perl-Perl6-Caller] Initial import (perl-Perl6-Caller-0.100-2)

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 9588ef99c2505a00c4a56934d92efd58fc416b71 Author: Paul Howarth Date: Thu Aug 22 14:44:40 2013 +0100 Initial import (perl-Perl6-Caller-0.100-2) By default, this module exports the caller function. This automatically returns a new caller object. An optional argument specifi

File Perl6-Caller-0.100.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Perl6-Caller: d19ce32a9b7f7dfbb59aff7e38d476b9 Perl6-Caller-0.100.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/ma

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Richard Shaw
Very interesting... What's the possibility of parsing all the data and sending individual reports to -owner@ ? I don't know that I'd want to get this type of thing frequently, but once would be nice... Richard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.o

Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Alec Leamas
In an attempt to test fedora-review we have run it on almost allpackages in the complete rawhide distribution. Our primary objective is to certify that fedora-review is stable for all this kind of input. Also, these test reveals some false warnings and other errors. Some are detected and fixed,

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