Self Introduction - Dan Fruehauf

Hey there, I've just signed up as a package maintainer in Fedora and would like to introduce NetworkManager-ssh - full SSH VPN integration for NetworkManager. The review request is here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=923564 A bit about myself - I've been writing code and using Linux

Re: Retagging a koji build as f17-updates-candidate?

On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 00:09 -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > What do I do next? > > How do I get the koji build tagged again so I can use it for a bodhi update? You should be able to retag it yourself. $ koji buildinfo glibc-2.15-59.fc17 [... snip ...] Tags: RPMs: [... snip ...] So th

Retagging a koji build as f17-updates-candidate?

Devs, While pushing out a CVE fix for glibc I received a server error from bodhi. ~~~ [carlos@koi glibc]$ fedpkg build Building glibc-2.15-59.fc17 for f17-candidate Created task: 5143544 Task info: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=5143544 Watching tasks (this may be safely inter

[Test-Announce] 2013-03-20 @ 16:00 UTC - F19 Alpha Blocker Bug Review #2

# F19 Alpha Blocker Review meeting #2 # Date: 2013-03-13 # Time: 16:00 UTC (12:00 EDT, 09:00 PDT) # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net It's that time again - blocker review meeting time! We'll be running through the alpha blockers and freeze exception bugs. The current list is a

Re: When to publish the release key

Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 21:24:22 +0100 > Björn Persson wrote: > > > Is there a date in the release schedule when the new release key shall > > be added to ? It seems logical to me > > to publish the key as soon as it has been generated, or at least

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

Michal Sekletar wrote: >> IMHO, this needs amending to say: >> In addition, *new* Fedora packages MUST NOT ... > > I would argue that this is not what should be done. Packagers should fix > their packages instead of relying on the old behavior which in now > basically compat only thing. This is

Re: [PATCH] Why not Zoidberg?

>On 03/19/2013 11:50 AM, Peter Jones wrote: > > +%define release_name Zoidberg If only for humour and if we wouldn't get in trouble, I'd support this. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: When to publish the release key

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 21:24:22 +0100 Björn Persson wrote: > Is there a date in the release schedule when the new release key shall > be added to ? It seems logical to me > to publish the key as soon as it has been generated, or at least > before it's used to sign any

When to publish the release key

Is there a date in the release schedule when the new release key shall be added to ? It seems logical to me to publish the key as soon as it has been generated, or at least before it's used to sign any packages. Signed Fedora 19 packages have started showing up on t

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

On Mar 19, 2013 12:13 PM, "Reindl Harald" wrote: > > > > Am 19.03.2013 18:40, schrieb Richard Vickery: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Reindl Harald > > > wrote: > > > > Am 19.03.2013 13:42, schrieb Michal Sekletar: > > > On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 11:27 -0500, Rex Dieter wrot

Re: [PATCH] Why not Zoidberg?

On 03/19/2013 11:50 AM, Peter Jones wrote: This fixes all of our problems with punctuation and unicode. It may introduce other problems. --- fedora-release.spec | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/fedora-release.spec b/fedora-release.spec index 0791715..43eed3e

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

Am 19.03.2013 18:40, schrieb Richard Vickery: > > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Reindl Harald > wrote: > > Am 19.03.2013 13:42, schrieb Michal Sekletar: > > On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 11:27 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > >> Reindl Harald wrote: >

Re: fedora release name problem

On 03/18/2013 11:56 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote: For the first time, Fedora release name have non-ascii and pelican characters which https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922433 Could we consider change release name from "Schrödinger's Cat" to "Schrodingers Cat" or other name that not have this

Re: [PATCH] Why not Zoidberg?

Il 19/03/2013 18:50, Peter Jones ha scritto: This fixes all of our problems with punctuation and unicode. It may introduce other problems. --- fedora-release.spec | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/fedora-release.spec b/fedora-release.spec index 0791715..43eed

Re: fedora release name problem

On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 11:26 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 14:14 -0400, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote: > > > From: Adam Williamson > > > > > > On 19/03/13 08:30 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > > > > > On 19 Mar 2013 14:33, > > > > wrote: > >

Re: fedora release name problem

On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 11:26 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 14:14 -0400, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote: > > > From: Adam Williamson > > > > > > On 19/03/13 08:30 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > > > > > On 19 Mar 2013 14:33, > > > > wrote: > >

Re: fedora release name problem

On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 14:14 -0400, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote: > > From: Adam Williamson > > > > On 19/03/13 08:30 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > > > On 19 Mar 2013 14:33, > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: "Richard W.M. Jones" > >

Re: fedora release name problem

On 03/19/2013 08:08 AM, Paul Flo Williams wrote: > Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> - Original Message - >>> Once upon a time, G.Wolfe Woodbury said: >>> submit a Feature and do proper testing/bug fixing/etc. for a future >>> release (if and when another name with non ASCII alphanumeric >>> chara

Re: fedora release name problem

> From: Adam Williamson > > On 19/03/13 08:30 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > On 19 Mar 2013 14:33, > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: "Richard W.M. Jones" > > > > > > > > > > An interesting question is: Why don't we try out the new rel

Re: New cfitsio 3.330 in Rawhide and F19 (take 2)

Oh great. I didn't thought that a link from libcfitsio-3.330.so.0 to libcfitsio.so would work. I have changed it now. The soname is (finally) libcfitsio-3.330.so.0, the library is libcfitsio-3.330.so.0 and is linked to libcfitsio.so 2013/3/19 Michael Schwendt > On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:03:44 +010

[PATCH] Why not Zoidberg?

This fixes all of our problems with punctuation and unicode. It may introduce other problems. --- fedora-release.spec | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/fedora-release.spec b/fedora-release.spec index 0791715..43eed3e 100644 --- a/fedora-release.spec +++ b/fedora-

Re: fedora release name problem

On 19 Mar 2013 16:22, "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 01:08:35PM -, Paul Flo Williams wrote: > > Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > >> Once upon a time, G.Wolfe Woodbury said: > > >> submit a Feature and do proper testing/bug fixing/etc. for

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 19.03.2013 13:42, schrieb Michal Sekletar: > > On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 11:27 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > >> Reindl Harald wrote: > >> > >>> Am 16.03.2013 19:26, schrieb Rex Dieter: > Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: > > > After usr move

Re: [PATCH] Don't use shell quoting characters in release name.

Thanks, pulled in upstream, build is issued will go out tomorrow Dennis On mar, 2013-03-19 at 13:07 -0400, Peter Jones wrote: > While this doesn't solve unicode-releated problems with /etc/os-release > or /etc/fedora-release, for example, it does mean that we won't have > problems with parsing th

Re: let's just use Schroedingers Katze as the fedora 19 release name

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Kai Engert wrote: > For those who didn't scroll to the end of my previous message, I propose > to use the name: > > Schroedingers Katze Again no if we find bugs we should fix them not apply duct tape to hide them. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

Hi, On Mar 19, 2013, at 13:54, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 19.03.2013 13:42, schrieb Michal Sekletar: >> On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 11:27 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: >>> Reindl Harald wrote: >>> Am 16.03.2013 19:26, schrieb Rex Dieter: > Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: > >> After usr move pac

Re: [PATCH] Don't use shell quoting characters in release name.

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Peter Jones wrote: > While this doesn't solve unicode-releated problems with /etc/os-release > or /etc/fedora-release, for example, it does mean that we won't have > problems with parsing this through shell scripts, which we do quite > often. > > This uses /Punctua

[PATCH] Don't use shell quoting characters in release name.

While this doesn't solve unicode-releated problems with /etc/os-release or /etc/fedora-release, for example, it does mean that we won't have problems with parsing this through shell scripts, which we do quite often. This uses /Punctuation apostrophe/, U+2019, which is the preferred unicode charact

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

Am 19.03.2013 13:42, schrieb Michal Sekletar: > On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 11:27 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: >> Reindl Harald wrote: >> >>> Am 16.03.2013 19:26, schrieb Rex Dieter: Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: > After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. That's not necessar

Re: fedora release name problem

Once upon a time, drago01 said: > How about spending time and energy on fixing the bugs rather then bike > shed over whether we should apply a duct tape or not? The problem is that there are possibly many unknown bugs that could hold up building composes, and it is just about time for composes to

Re: fedora release name problem

How about spending time and energy on fixing the bugs rather then bike shed over whether we should apply a duct tape or not? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

bash-completion scripts to /usr/share bugs filed today

Looks like a bunch of "move your bash completion scripts to /usr/share/bash-completion/completions" bugs were filed today without any information how to do it properly. I wish this would have been discussed beforehand with me before mass filing bugs, but now that the bugs are already there, here's

Re: [PATCH] Don't use shell quoting characters in release name.

On 19/03/13 08:57 AM, Peter Jones wrote: While this doesn't solve unicode-releated problems with /etc/os-release or /etc/fedora-release, for example, it does mean that we won't have problems with parsing this through shell scripts, which we do quite often. Signed-off-by: Peter Jones +1: the d

Re: [PATCH] Don't use shell quoting characters in release name.

On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 11:57 -0400, Peter Jones wrote: > While this doesn't solve unicode-releated problems with /etc/os-release > or /etc/fedora-release, for example, it does mean that we won't have > problems with parsing this through shell scripts, which we do quite > often. > > Signed-off-by: P

Re: fedora release name problem

On 19/03/13 08:30 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On 19 Mar 2013 14:33, mailto:john.flor...@dart.biz>> wrote: > > > From: "Richard W.M. Jones" mailto:rjo...@redhat.com>> > > > > An interesting question is: Why don't we try out the new release name > > early on in Rawhide. ie. we would change th

Re: fedora release name problem

2013/3/19 Richard W.M. Jones > I'm voting for ☃. What about 😼 ? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: fedora release name problem

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 01:08:35PM -, Paul Flo Williams wrote: > Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > - Original Message - > >> Once upon a time, G.Wolfe Woodbury said: > >> submit a Feature and do proper testing/bug fixing/etc. for a future > >> release (if and when another name with non ASCII

Re: Updates

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 13:16:01 -0300, Eduardo Jorge wrote: xboard and gnuchess are GNU software and are too artificial intelligence packages. Please, update gnuchess to version 6.0.3 and xboard to version 4.7.0 (a major release) in Rawhide. The proper way to request th

Re: fedora release name problem

- Original Message - > > > > > On 19 Mar 2013 14:33, < john.flor...@dart.biz > wrote: > > > > > From: "Richard W.M. Jones" < rjo...@redhat.com > > > > > > > An interesting question is: Why don't we try out the new release > > > name > > > early on in Rawhide. ie. we would change the r

Re: fedora release name problem

On 19/03/13 02:22 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: On 03/19/13 01:56, Adam Williamson wrote: This bug just *smells* like one of those which will pop up again and again and again causing carnage wherever it shows up. Shouldn't be worse than F18 where we slipped how many weeks? Or was it even months in

Re: Results of a test mass rebuild of rawhide/x86_64 with gcc-4.8.0-0.1.fc19

On 01/04/2013 09:40 PM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > Hi! > > As part of preparations for possible switch of system compiler in F19 > to GCC 4.8.0, we (myself and Marek Polacek) have performed a test mass > rebuild of rawhide (December 17th package list) using gcc-4.8.0-0.1.fc19 > on x86_64, and for thos

[PATCH] Don't use shell quoting characters in release name.

While this doesn't solve unicode-releated problems with /etc/os-release or /etc/fedora-release, for example, it does mean that we won't have problems with parsing this through shell scripts, which we do quite often. Signed-off-by: Peter Jones --- fedora-release.spec | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 ins

Re: fedora release name problem

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 10:47 AM, David Malcolm wrote: > On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 23:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On 18/03/13 10:22 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 05:56:28PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > >> On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 18:34 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >

Re: Fwd: MariaDB replacing MySQL

On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 10:37 -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On 03/18/2013 03:17 PM, James Antill wrote: > > Kind of ... the rule is that all idempotent operations should match > > packages without caring about case sensitivity. So "yum install Mysql" > > doesn't work, but "yum list Mysql" does.

Re: fedora release name problem

On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 23:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On 18/03/13 10:22 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 05:56:28PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 18:34 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:56:28 + > >>> Sérgio Basto wrote

Re: fedora release name problem

On 19 Mar 2013 14:33, wrote: > > > From: "Richard W.M. Jones" > > > > An interesting question is: Why don't we try out the new release name > > early on in Rawhide. ie. we would change the release name now to > > whatever F20 is going to be + " (Rawhide)". Wouldn't that give us a > > lot more

Re: Headsup: soname changing ode-double build coming to rawhide and F-19

Hans, On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 17:17 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > > When I added the ode-double subpackage I hardcoded the soname, so it > is not tracking the regular ode builds soname versioning, which also > means that if upstream breaks abi the soname won't change (rhbz#922812) thank you for q

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

Hi Rex, On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 07:57 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > Michal Sekletar wrote: > > > On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 11:27 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > >> Reindl Harald wrote: > >> > >> > Am 16.03.2013 19:26, schrieb Rex Dieter: > >> >> Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> After usr move packages sh

Re: Fwd: MariaDB replacing MySQL

On 03/18/2013 03:17 PM, James Antill wrote: Kind of ... the rule is that all idempotent operations should match packages without caring about case sensitivity. So "yum install Mysql" doesn't work, but "yum list Mysql" does. "Idempotent" means that that multiple applications of an operation

Re: fedora release name problem

Kai Engert wrote: > The Fedora release name is part of the code Is it? What is its technical function then? What would break if two releases were to have the same name but different numbers? Are programs supposed to compare release names to determine which release they're looking at? All compariso

Re: fedora release name problem

> From: "Richard W.M. Jones" > > An interesting question is: Why don't we try out the new release name > early on in Rawhide. ie. we would change the release name now to > whatever F20 is going to be + " (Rawhide)". Wouldn't that give us a > lot more time to test and fix? That seems like a gr

Re: fedora release name problem

On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 12:23 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le Mar 19 mars 2013 09:31, Adam Williamson a écrit : > > > I don't object at all to fixing UTF-8 issues, but it seems needlessly > > stressful to force ourselves to do so as a part of release validation, > > with booby traps exploding

Re: fedora release name problem

Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > - Original Message - >> Once upon a time, G.Wolfe Woodbury said: >> submit a Feature and do proper testing/bug fixing/etc. for a future >> release (if and when another name with non ASCII alphanumeric >> characters >> is chosen). > > +1! > > Jaroslav What do you m

Re: fedora release name problem

- Original Message - > Once upon a time, G.Wolfe Woodbury said: > > I disagree. This particular problem points out a problem that is > > only > > going to become more of a problem as the internationalization of > > software increases. Not everything is ASCII or English, and not > > defen

Re: fedora release name problem

Once upon a time, G.Wolfe Woodbury said: > I disagree. This particular problem points out a problem that is only > going to become more of a problem as the internationalization of > software increases. Not everything is ASCII or English, and not > defensively programming for such cases is short-

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

Michal Sekletar wrote: > On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 11:27 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: >> Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> > Am 16.03.2013 19:26, schrieb Rex Dieter: >> >> Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: >> >> >> >>> After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. >> >> >> >> That's not necessarily true. Do o

Re: fedora release name problem

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Kai Engert wrote: > On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 23:56 +, Sérgio Basto wrote: >> Could we consider change release name from "Schrödinger's Cat" to >> "Schrodingers Cat" or other name that not have this additional >> problem ? > > In my opinion, it makes sense to dist

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 11:27 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 16.03.2013 19:26, schrieb Rex Dieter: > >> Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: > >> > >>> After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. > >> > >> That's not necessarily true. Do our packaging guidelines actually s

Re: fedora release name problem

On 19 March 2013 12:20, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 19.3.2013 12:23, Ian Malone napsal(a): > >> On 19 March 2013 11:03, Marc Deop i Argemí wrote: >>> >>> On Tuesday 19 March 2013 09:27:16 Christof Damian wrote: >>> > Fixing an apostrophe – no >> >> Umlaut, not apostrophe. > > > Schrödinger*'*s C

Re: fedora release name problem

On 19 March 2013 11:41, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le Mar 19 mars 2013 12:27, Ian Malone a écrit : >> On 19 March 2013 11:24, Nicolas Mailhot >> wrote: >>> >>> Le Mar 19 mars 2013 11:38, Ian Malone a écrit : >>> and holding up the release for what is basically a triviality seems a bit s

Re: fedora release name problem

Dne 19.3.2013 12:23, Ian Malone napsal(a): On 19 March 2013 11:03, Marc Deop i Argemí wrote: On Tuesday 19 March 2013 09:27:16 Christof Damian wrote: Fixing an apostrophe – no Umlaut, not apostrophe. Schrödinger*'*s Cat I tried to visualize the apostrophe, but it's not that visible anyway

[perl-Sysadm-Install/f19] Update to 0.43

Summary of changes: dd4cbf6... Update to 0.43 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mail

Re: New cfitsio 3.330 in Rawhide and F19 (take 2)

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:03:44 +0100, Sergio Pascual wrote: > Hello, a new cfitsio (3.330) is going to land tomorrow in rawhide and F19 . > All the packages depending on cfitsio must be rebuilt. > > Following this thread, > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-March/179610.html >

let's just use Schroedingers Katze as the fedora 19 release name

For those who didn't scroll to the end of my previous message, I propose to use the name: Schroedingers Katze Kai -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

[perl] Remove 5 bundled packages

commit de83a5cf8df11f2f68f1891a8df4f1059d24cd50 Author: Petr Písař Date: Tue Mar 19 12:31:35 2013 +0100 Remove 5 bundled packages Remove bundled Archive-Extract, File-Fetch, HTTP-Tiny, Module-Load-Conditional, Time-Local perl.spec | 26 ++ 1 files ch

[perl] Correct perl-Digest-MD5 dependencies

commit 707487fa6c293067bf7ddd148ed953c8ae135c87 Author: Petr Písař Date: Tue Mar 19 10:47:52 2013 +0100 Correct perl-Digest-MD5 dependencies perl.spec |6 +- 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl.spec b/perl.spec index 47aa52b..149b6ea 100644 --- a

[perl-Sysadm-Install] Update to 0.43

commit dd4cbf6831926e69974751ced5887916f903ef26 Author: Paul Howarth Date: Tue Mar 19 11:49:02 2013 + Update to 0.43 - New upstream release 0.43 - Using binmode() now for slurp/blurt for compatibility with Win32 systems perl-Sysadm-Install.spec | 10 +++--- source

Re: fedora release name problem

On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 23:56 +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > Could we consider change release name from "Schrödinger's Cat" to > "Schrodingers Cat" or other name that not have this additional > problem ? In my opinion, it makes sense to distinguish between code and content. When compared with 10-15

File Sysadm-Install-0.43.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Sysadm-Install: f631ac686f62cb6db2edf272ee100d55 Sysadm-Install-0.43.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: fedora release name problem

Le Mar 19 mars 2013 12:27, Ian Malone a écrit : > On 19 March 2013 11:24, Nicolas Mailhot > wrote: >> >> Le Mar 19 mars 2013 11:38, Ian Malone a écrit : >> >>> and holding up the release for what is basically a triviality seems a >>> bit silly. >> >> The perception correct UTF-8 handling is a tri

Re: fedora release name problem

On 19 March 2013 11:24, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le Mar 19 mars 2013 11:38, Ian Malone a écrit : > >> and holding up the release for what is basically a triviality seems a >> bit silly. > > The perception correct UTF-8 handling is a triviality that should be > worked on at some later date is the

Re: fedora release name problem

Le Mar 19 mars 2013 09:27, Christof Damian a écrit : > On 19 March 2013 08:30, Nicolas Mailhot > wrote: >> >> Le Mar 19 mars 2013 02:24, Chris Murphy a écrit : >> >>> And is fixing this apostrophe issue going to have some clear benefit >>> anywhere else? >> >> Fixing an apostrophe – no >> Fixing

Re: fedora release name problem

Le Mar 19 mars 2013 11:38, Ian Malone a écrit : > and holding up the release for what is basically a triviality seems a > bit silly. The perception correct UTF-8 handling is a triviality that should be worked on at some later date is the reason we have this breakage now. -- Nicolas Mailhot --

Re: fedora release name problem

On 19 March 2013 11:03, Marc Deop i Argemí wrote: > On Tuesday 19 March 2013 09:27:16 Christof Damian wrote: > >> > Fixing an apostrophe – no Umlaut, not apostrophe. > >> > Fixing our UTF-8 handling – definitely yes > > The issue here is not only about the Fedora's release name rather than > fix

Re: fedora release name problem

Le Mar 19 mars 2013 09:31, Adam Williamson a écrit : > I don't object at all to fixing UTF-8 issues, but it seems needlessly > stressful to force ourselves to do so as a part of release validation, > with booby traps exploding all around us. It's the kind of thing that > can easily be worked on i

New cfitsio 3.330 in Rawhide and F19 (take 2)

Hello, a new cfitsio (3.330) is going to land tomorrow in rawhide and F19 . All the packages depending on cfitsio must be rebuilt. Following this thread, http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-March/179610.html I have changed the way we create the (non-define by upstream) soname of

Re: fedora release name problem

On Tuesday 19 March 2013 09:27:16 Christof Damian wrote: > > Fixing an apostrophe – no > > Fixing our UTF-8 handling – definitely yes > The issue here is not only about the Fedora's release name rather than fixing our UTF-8 handling. Sounds like an important bug to fix, at least to me > Fixing

Re: fedora release name problem

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 01:31:30AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On 19/03/13 01:04 AM, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > >On 03/19/2013 02:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >>Well, look, my point is that sometimes our commitment to 'fixing things > >>the right way' appears to verge on bloody masochism. > >

Re: fedora release name problem

On 19 March 2013 08:04, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > On 03/19/2013 02:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> Well, look, my point is that sometimes our commitment to 'fixing things >> the right way' appears to verge on bloody masochism. >> > >> If we have to compromise on just papering it over for Alpha,

Re: fedora release name problem

- Original Message - > On 03/19/13 01:56, Adam Williamson wrote: > > This bug just *smells* like one of those which will pop up again > > and > > again and again causing carnage wherever it shows up. > > Shouldn't be worse than F18 where we slipped how many weeks? Or was > it > even month

Re: fedora release name problem

On 03/19/13 01:56, Adam Williamson wrote: > This bug just *smells* like one of those which will pop up again and > again and again causing carnage wherever it shows up. Shouldn't be worse than F18 where we slipped how many weeks? Or was it even months in the end? cheers, Gerd -- devel mailin

Re: fedora release name problem

On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 10:01 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 19.3.2013 04:05, Chris Murphy napsal(a): > > On Mar 18, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Andre Robatino > > wrote: > > > >> If we do, shouldn't there be another vote asking if it's okay to make this > >> change, in light of the possible release delay?

Re: fedora release name problem

Dne 19.3.2013 04:05, Chris Murphy napsal(a): On Mar 18, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: If we do, shouldn't there be another vote asking if it's okay to make this change, in light of the possible release delay? Definitely not. There is equivalent that doesn't require apostrophe or uml

Re: fedora release name problem

- Original Message - > On 18/03/13 10:22 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 05:56:28PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 18:34 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:56:28 + > >>> Sérgio Basto wrote: > >>> > Hi, > For

Re: fedora release name problem

On 19/03/13 01:27 AM, Christof Damian wrote: I see it as a good thing, the problems we find are usually real bugs that just haven't been discovered yet. Sure. But it's a question of priorities. "A shortage of bugs to work on" is one the very few problems with which Fedora developers do _not_

Re: fedora release name problem

On 19/03/13 01:04 AM, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: On 03/19/2013 02:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: Well, look, my point is that sometimes our commitment to 'fixing things the right way' appears to verge on bloody masochism. If we have to compromise on just papering it over for Alpha, I mean, _fine

Re: fedora release name problem

On 19 March 2013 08:30, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le Mar 19 mars 2013 02:24, Chris Murphy a écrit : > >> And is fixing this apostrophe issue going to have some clear benefit >> anywhere else? > > Fixing an apostrophe – no > Fixing our UTF-8 handling – definitely yes I expected both of these thin

Re: fedora release name problem

On 03/19/2013 02:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Well, look, my point is that sometimes our commitment to 'fixing things > the right way' appears to verge on bloody masochism. > > If we have to compromise on just papering it over for Alpha, I mean, > _fine_. But seriously: sometimes papering it o

Re: Yum plugin for prioritize providers [was Re: Fwd: MariaDB replacing MySQL]

On 03/18/2013 07:17 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: I'm not following the MySQL/mariadb packaging discussion in full >detail - however, if we got to the point of discussing special yum >plugins, wouldn't it be much simpler to > >* Modify the 10 packages that require mysql-server, the 19 packages >that

Re: fedora release name problem

Le Mar 19 mars 2013 02:24, Chris Murphy a écrit : > And is fixing this apostrophe issue going to have some clear benefit > anywhere else? Fixing an apostrophe – no Fixing our UTF-8 handling – definitely yes -- Nicolas Mailhot -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.