On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:04 AM, wrote:
>
>
> perl-Data-HexDump has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
> On x86_64:
> perl-Data-HexDump-0.02-2.el5.noarch requires perl(lib)
> perl-Data-HexDump-0.02-2.el5.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.8)
> perl-Data-HexDump-0.0
On 09/15/2011 06:11 PM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
> On 09/15/2011 05:54 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> On 09/15/2011 09:42 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>>> On 09/15/2011 05:25 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
Anyway, some more figures: On the same machine, bootup times when
booting from a (slow)
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Al Reay wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm keen to help out with Fedora by helping to create RPM packages and do
> some testing when possible. I work for a television station in NZ and look
> after most of the RHEL systems around the place including their video on
> dem
On 15/09/11 04:00 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 09/16/2011 02:10 AM, Manuel Escudero wrote:
>>
>> RPM -
>> http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/xenodecdn/jokosher-0.11.5-0.fc15.noarch.rpm
>>
>> SRC.RPM -
>> http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/xenodecdn/jokosher-0.11.5-0.fc15.src.rpm
>>
>> i
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 19:10 -0500, Michael Ekstrand wrote:
> On 09/15/2011 05:27 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 14:14 -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote:
> >
> >> Many computers are booted very rarely, once a day or so, and then
> >> sit idle for very long periods of time. This is ver
On 09/15/2011 05:27 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 14:14 -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote:
>
>> Many computers are booted very rarely, once a day or so, and then
>> sit idle for very long periods of time. This is very wasteful. The
>> reason people do this is because booting takes a l
Hi everyone,
I'm keen to help out with Fedora by helping to create RPM packages and do
some testing when possible. I work for a television station in NZ and look
after most of the RHEL systems around the place including their video on
demand product. My interests include motorcycling and computer
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:27:49 -0700
Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 14:14 -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote:
>
> > Many computers are booted very rarely, once a day or so, and then
> > sit idle for very long periods of time. This is very wasteful. The
> > reason people do this is because b
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 18:05 +0200, Stefan Held wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 15.09.2011, 10:39 -0400 schrieb Andre Robatino:
> > As per the Fedora 16 schedule [1], Fedora 16 Beta Release Candidate 1
> > (RC1) is now available for testing.
>
> Is there a deltaiso?
Yes, there are always are, here:
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 10:10 -0500, W. Michael Petullo wrote:
> >> There are known bugs in FC15/FC16 that have been filled some time ago that
> >> folks will sadly run into: 728775, 658387 and 668063
> >>
> >> Fortunatly the bugs have patches attached and the files to be modified are
> >> shell s
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 14:14 -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote:
> Many computers are booted very rarely, once a day or so, and then
> sit idle for very long periods of time. This is very wasteful. The
> reason people do this is because booting takes a long time compared to
> starting the set of application
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 17:54 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 09/15/2011 09:42 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> > On 09/15/2011 05:25 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> >> In general, there are other factors coming into play, such as parallel
> >> startup using more memory, parallelization not pro
On 09/16/2011 02:10 AM, Manuel Escudero wrote:
>
> RPM -
> http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/xenodecdn/jokosher-0.11.5-0.fc15.noarch.rpm
>
> SRC.RPM -
> http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/xenodecdn/jokosher-0.11.5-0.fc15.src.rpm
>
> it's a "noarch" package so it can be installed in both
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:39:23 -0500, RS (Richard) wrote:
> Here's the updated SRPM:
> http://hobbes1069.fedorapeople.org/jokosher/jokosher-0.11.5-1.fc15.src.rpm
>
> So the question remains, instead of seeing if someone else will submit
> it, why not submit it yourself?
Notice that jokosher used t
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Manuel Escudero wrote:
>
>
> 2011/9/15 Richard Shaw
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Manuel Escudero
>> wrote:
>> > Hi there Fedora People!!
>> >
>> > One of my biggest passions in life is audio editing, so when I started
>> > using
>> > Linux I found this
2011/9/15 Richard Shaw
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Manuel Escudero
> wrote:
> > Hi there Fedora People!!
> >
> > One of my biggest passions in life is audio editing, so when I started
> using
> > Linux I found this friendly (yet powerful) audio editor called
> "Jokosher".
> > When I
> > i
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Manuel Escudero wrote:
> Hi there Fedora People!!
>
> One of my biggest passions in life is audio editing, so when I started using
> Linux I found this friendly (yet powerful) audio editor called "Jokosher".
> When I
> installed Fedora 15, I realized that jokosher
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Hi there Fedora People!!
One of my biggest passions in life is audio editing, so when I started using
Linux I found this friendly (yet powerful) audio editor called "Jokosher".
When I
installed Fedora 15, I realized that jokosher wasn't added to the F15 repos
and I missed it a lot, so I built an R
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On 09/15/2011 09:29 PM, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> Hi Fedora!
>
> Currently, the abrt reporting program does not seem to work for me, when
> I try to submit to bugzilla I get
>
> Essential file 'duphash' is missing, can't continue..
> (exited with 1)
>
> Is this a known problem or is there anything wro
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Hi Fedora!
Currently, the abrt reporting program does not seem to work for me, when
I try to submit to bugzilla I get
Essential file 'duphash' is missing, can't continue..
(exited with 1)
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On 09/15/2011 02:14 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:27:29 +0100
>
> Many computers are booted very rarely, once a day or so, and then
> sit idle for very long periods of time. This is very wasteful. The
> reason people do this is because booting takes a long time compared to
> st
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:27:29 +0100
"Richard W.M. Jones" wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:16:29AM +0200, Jan F. Chadima wrote:
> > It amazes me how much energy people spend on it to save 3 seconds a
> > day. Of course, if the computer being turned daily. In the case of a
> > server time saving
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 07:29:09PM -0400, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
> The context for this question can be found here:
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/virt-maint/2011-March/002289.html
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679179
>
> So the summary is that openbios needs to be c
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:16:29AM +0200, Jan F. Chadima wrote:
> It amazes me how much energy people spend on it to save 3 seconds a
> day. Of course, if the computer being turned daily. In the case of a
> server time saving is even more amazing.
Virtualization changes things.
The way _I_ use Fe
On 09/15/2011 04:11 PM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
> On 09/15/2011 05:54 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> On 09/15/2011 09:42 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>>> On 09/15/2011 05:25 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
Anyway, some more figures: On the same machine, bootup times when
booting from a (slow)
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:19:24AM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote:
> On 09/15/2011 09:59 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > We're talking about guest creation, aren't we? Why would you ever need
> > to run grub-install against a guest image that already exists? And if
> > you do, you're already going to ha
On 09/15/2011 12:19 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote:
> On 09/15/2011 09:59 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>> We're talking about guest creation, aren't we? Why would you ever need
>> to run grub-install against a guest image that already exists? And if
>> you do, you're already going to have problems come F17. I
On 09/15/2011 09:59 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> We're talking about guest creation, aren't we? Why would you ever need
> to run grub-install against a guest image that already exists? And if
> you do, you're already going to have problems come F17. It's likely that
> grub will no longer exist,
On 09/15/2011 12:01 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 04:56:43PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
For grub1 guests, it has turned out not to matter which specific
version of grub [as long as it was grub1] was used, as apparently
grub-install updates all files needed in /boot/gr
On 09/15/2011 05:54 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 09/15/2011 09:42 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>> On 09/15/2011 05:25 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>>> Anyway, some more figures: On the same machine, bootup times when
>>> booting from a (slow) external (IDE) USB2 HD:
>>> - Fedora 15/i386: ca. 1
Am Donnerstag, den 15.09.2011, 10:39 -0400 schrieb Andre Robatino:
> As per the Fedora 16 schedule [1], Fedora 16 Beta Release Candidate 1
> (RC1) is now available for testing.
Is there a deltaiso?
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 04:56:43PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> For grub1 guests, it has turned out not to matter which specific
> version of grub [as long as it was grub1] was used, as apparently
> grub-install updates all files needed in /boot/grub as appropriate.
> Or at least we haven't
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 21:48 -0700, Jorge Gallegos wrote:
> So, I gather no one can shed some light on this? anyone? bueller?
>
> The bug (point #2) doesn't really stop the plugin from working, but it is
> annoying.
>
> Any help would be much appreciated
You'd probably have been better off mail
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 04:25:41PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 04:21:36PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 03:59:57PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > > We're talking about guest creation, aren't we?
> >
> > No, we're talking about fixing an
On 09/15/2011 09:42 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 09/15/2011 05:25 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> In general, there are other factors coming into play, such as parallel
>> startup using more memory, parallelization not providing many advantages
>> on systems with a small number of CPU c
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:46:34AM -0400, Peter Jones wrote:
> On 09/15/2011 10:27 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >libguestfs, as I guess is well known, uses tools from the host in
> >order to manage guests.
>
> Honestly I don't think this is that well known, and looking at it
> I'm amazed this pa
I will simply say that this is not my view of what happened. In any
case I hope we can be more excellent about this now.
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On 09/15/2011 11:16 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:46:34AM -0400, Peter Jones wrote:
>> On 09/15/2011 10:27 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>>> So I propose that we drop this conflicts and fix grubby instead.
>>
>> We certainly can't do that without at least first fixing o
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 04:21:36PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 03:59:57PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > We're talking about guest creation, aren't we?
>
> No, we're talking about fixing and resizing existing guests, where
> grub-install needs to be run to fix the
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 03:59:57PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> We're talking about guest creation, aren't we?
No, we're talking about fixing and resizing existing guests, where
grub-install needs to be run to fix the bootloader.
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:46:34AM -0400, Peter Jones wrote:
> On 09/15/2011 10:27 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >So I propose that we drop this conflicts and fix grubby instead.
>
> We certainly can't do that without at least first fixing other problems.
Could you explain (preferably with a fu
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 05:45:39PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> >
> > > >([3]https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/219). It takes time
> > > > for us
> > > >to setup test environment, and would be good to have some info in
> > > > advance.
> >
Ok, so some basic steps to test Xen
>> There are known bugs in FC15/FC16 that have been filled some time ago that
>> folks will sadly run into: 728775, 658387 and 668063
>>
>> Fortunatly the bugs have patches attached and the files to be modified are
>> shell scripts.
> Yep, links here:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 03:36:55PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 03:31:49PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 03:27:16PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >
> > > So I propose that we drop this conflicts and fix grubby instead.
> >
> > No. It
On 09/15/2011 10:36 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 03:31:49PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 03:27:16PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>>
>>> So I propose that we drop this conflicts and fix grubby instead.
>>
>> No. It is not sane to have multip
Steve Clark (scl...@netwolves.com) said:
> Is there a reason Fedora "starts a bunch of stuff that pretty much nobody
> would use in a typical desktop system" ?
One example of a synchronization point is the LVM/dmraid/etc. startup. If
we were able to conclusively determine that there weren't any o
On 09/14/2011 07:29 PM, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
> The context for this question can be found here:
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/virt-maint/2011-March/002289.html
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679179
>
> So the summary is that openbios needs to be compiled on PPC/SPA
On 09/15/2011 10:27 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> This is about:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737261
> "F16 TC2 DVD grub/grub2 conflict"
>
> The grub package in F16 has a "Conflicts: grub2" line. There are no
> actual file conflicts, but this was added in order to workaround s
2011/9/15 Michał Piotrowski :
> 2011/9/14 Tom Lane :
>> 3. As root, do
>> date --rfc-3339=ns ; systemctl start postgresql.service ; date --rfc-3339=ns
>
> with dropped cache
>
> date --rfc-3339=ns ; systemctl start postgresql.service ; date --rfc-3339=ns
> 2011-09-15 08:44:40.348239703+02:00
> 2011
As per the Fedora 16 schedule [1], Fedora 16 Beta Release Candidate 1
(RC1) is now available for testing. Please see the following pages for
download links and testing instructions. In general, official live
images arrive a few hours after the install images: see the links below
for updates. When t
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 03:31:49PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 03:27:16PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>
> > So I propose that we drop this conflicts and fix grubby instead.
>
> No. It is not sane to have multiple bootloaders installed on one
> machine.
There's a
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 03:27:16PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> So I propose that we drop this conflicts and fix grubby instead.
No. It is not sane to have multiple bootloaders installed on one
machine. Requiring the ability to do so adds a significant amount of
extra complexity to the to
This is about:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737261
"F16 TC2 DVD grub/grub2 conflict"
The grub package in F16 has a "Conflicts: grub2" line. There are no
actual file conflicts, but this was added in order to workaround some
bugs in grubby, including:
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 14:16 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> The 'fix' for the F16 kernel is simply that, with the rc6 build,
> debugging has been disabled. debugging is never disabled in Rawhide
> kernels, so if debugging overhead is your problem, no Rawhide kernel is
> going to cure it. To check
On Sep 15, 2011, at 1:13 PM, drago01 wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Jan F. Chadima wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 1:02 PM, drago01 wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jan F. Chadima
>>> wrote:
On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:03 AM, drago01 wrote:
> On Thu
On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 22:14 +0200, Johannes Lips wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I tried to reach the maintainer of elementary-icon-theme.noarch for
> several times now.[1] So far I didn't receive any notice if he even read
> the mails from bugzilla.
> I don't feel the need to take over the package but if n
On 09/15/2011 11:03 AM, drago01 wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Jan F. Chadima wrote:
>> [...]
>> . When watching the load of the virtual machine that starts with systemd it
>> is clear to me that the total CPU consumption is significantly greater than
>> in the case of upstart one.
>
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Jan F. Chadima wrote:
>
> On Sep 15, 2011, at 1:02 PM, drago01 wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jan F. Chadima wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:03 AM, drago01 wrote:
>>>
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Jan F. Chadima
wrote:
> [.
Summary of changes:
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On Sep 15, 2011, at 1:02 PM, drago01 wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jan F. Chadima wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:03 AM, drago01 wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Jan F. Chadima
>>> wrote:
[...]
. When watching the load of the virtual machine that sta
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jan F. Chadima wrote:
>
> On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:03 AM, drago01 wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Jan F. Chadima wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> . When watching the load of the virtual machine that starts with systemd it
>>> is clear to me that the total CPU co
Summary of changes:
d047ed8... Upstream update 1.92 (*)
19353f8... Upstream update 1.98 (*)
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Steve Clark wrote:
> On 09/15/2011 02:07 AM, drago01 wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>
> On 09/14/2011 06:23 PM, drago01 wrote:
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>
>
>
> Anyway, some more figures: On th
On 09/15/2011 02:07 AM, drago01 wrote:
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 09/14/2011 06:23 PM, drago01 wrote:
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Ralf Corsepiuswrote:
Anyway, some more figures: On the same machine, bootup times when
booting from a (slow) external (
On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:03 AM, drago01 wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Jan F. Chadima wrote:
>> [...]
>> . When watching the load of the virtual machine that starts with systemd it
>> is clear to me that the total CPU consumption is significantly greater than
>> in the case of upstar
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Jan F. Chadima wrote:
> [...]
>. When watching the load of the virtual machine that starts with systemd it is
>clear to me that the total CPU consumption is significantly greater than in
>the case of upstart one.
That's the whole point of doing things in parall
It amazes me how much energy people spend on it to save 3 seconds a day. Of
course, if the computer being turned daily. In the case of a server time saving
is even more amazing. My 4 years old daughter no longer believes the merman,
but many technically educated IT specialists still believe in l
On 09/15/2011 05:25 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>In general, there are other factors coming into play, such as parallel
> startup using more memory, parallelization not providing many advantages
> on systems with a small number of CPU cores, hard synchronisation points
> in the bootup process, po
2011/9/14 Jef Spaleta :
>
>
> 2011/9/14 Michał Piotrowski
>>
>> Exactly. F15, PostgreSQL 9.0 and just service file from PostgreSQL
>> 9.1. Root filesystem and database are on SSD and Ext4.
>>
>
> Okay... brace yourself.
>
> I just ran this test on my non-SSD ext4 based F15 system and I get the
> o
2011/9/14 Tom Lane :
> =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= writes:
>> Ok, I made four series of tests:
>> - start/stop an old init script
>> - start/stop an old init script with dropping caches - should simulate
>> system booting
>> - start/stop service file
>> - start/stop service file with drop
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