Hallo everyone,
I plan to upgrade libetpan in f14, f15 and rawhide to version 1.1. All
releases already carry a cvs snapshot of 1.1 as it contains quite a few
bug fixes for imap handling. The soname changes from 15.0.0 to 16.0.0.
The only affected package in fedora is claws-mail (which I maintain
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Well, if they didn't need fixed before, they'll certainly need fixed
> when you make them start keeping their configuration info someplace else
Yeah -- daemons that can be configured with commandline options or
envvars are Just Fine.
If those op
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Mon, 18.07.11 23:26, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote:
>> I can't see a reason to discuss /etc/sysconfig as a single unit, nor
>> to argue for removal of /etc/sysconfig a single unit, nor to try to
>> form a definite consensus ab
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 18.07.11 15:13, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>> > > On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, MichaÅ Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com)
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi,
>> > >
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 17:38:30 -0400, Ben Boeckel wrote:
> I'm using the gmane gateway to read the list and I'm getting "Posting
> not allowed" errors across all the lists I've tried. Is it just me or
> are others seeing this?
Hrm...seems tin isn't getting a FQDN when starting up and then refusi
Hi,
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
> We should not let packages create config files in lib, lib is more for
> static content from rpms, not really for configuration. For the same
> reason, 'systemctl enable/disable' acts on /etc only.
I had imagined using alternatives would
On 07/19/2011 12:38 AM, Ben Boeckel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm using the gmane gateway to read the list and I'm getting "Posting
> not allowed" errors across all the lists I've tried. Is it just me or
> are others seeing this?
>
> --Ben
If you're reading this, posting through the gmane newsgroup works
On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 23:14 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Mon, 18.07.11 21:57, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 02:46:30PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
> > > This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig
> > >
> > > http://0pointer.de/blog/proj
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On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 15:59 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Lennart Poettering writes:
> > On Mon, 18.07.11 15:34, Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) wrote:
> >> Well, if they didn't need fixed before, they'll certainly need fixed
> >> when you make them start keeping their configuration info someplace else
> >>
On Mon, 18.07.11 23:26, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Richard W.M. Jones
> wrote:
> > I'm sympathetic to Lennart's arguments, but really this should be
> > discussed and decided in the context of a real, open forum, drawing
> > interested people fro
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 23:27, David Michael wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>> Right, but that then causes 'last one wins' behavior among multiple DMs.
>>
>> I suppose we could use alternatives for this, as much as I dislike it.
>
> I meant creating that symlink
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 23:20, Mike McGrath wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>> Hmm? Which ones in fedora can't? Are you suggesting we are shipping
>> software that cannot be modified? If so, please explain which one that
>> is, since we need to remove it from the distro th
Hi,
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Right, but that then causes 'last one wins' behavior among multiple DMs.
>
> I suppose we could use alternatives for this, as much as I dislike it.
I meant creating that symlink was the replacement for
/etc/sysconfig/desktop, the end-
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> I'm sympathetic to Lennart's arguments, but really this should be
> discussed and decided in the context of a real, open forum, drawing
> interested people from all of the Linux distros (possibly BSD etc
> too). Perhaps LSB?
/etc/sysc
On Mon, 18.07.11 23:17, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote:
> > These interfaces introduced by systemd are actually discussed in quite
> > some detail on the systemd irc channel and mailing list. It's a very
> > open forum, you are welcome to join.
>
> So Fedora is the right place to discuss re
On Mon, 18.07.11 17:00, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > > > Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think
> > > > > the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration in
> > > > > /etc/services.conf/ or something like that.
> > > >
> > > > No. There is
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Mon, 18.07.11 15:13, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > 2011/
David Michael (fedora@gmail.com) said:
> > what then out of interest is the replacement for a
> > /etc/sysconfig/desktop file that defines which login manager should be
> > the default (and which is not there by default)? Can KDM then be
> > started when X starts and not GDM without the use of
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Mon, 18.07.11 21:57, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 02:46:30PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
>> > This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig
>> >
>> > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-s
Hi,
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 4:42 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
> what then out of interest is the replacement for a
> /etc/sysconfig/desktop file that defines which login manager should be
> the default (and which is not there by default)? Can KDM then be
> started when X starts and not GDM without the
On Mon, 18.07.11 21:57, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 02:46:30PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
> > This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig
> >
> > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html
>
> I'm sympathetic to Lennart's arguments, but r
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 12:42 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
> I guess the process can be started - but by the time it is ready for
> prime time then any daemons that need to work should have been tested
> to work without the need for any /etc/sysconfig/... files - just by
> the way what then out of inte
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 21:16 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>> On Mon, 18.07.11 15:13, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>> > > On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (m
On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 21:16 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Mon, 18.07.11 15:13, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > >
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 02:46:30PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
> This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig
>
> http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html
I'm sympathetic to Lennart's arguments, but really this should be
discussed and decided in the context of a real, open forum, drawi
On 07/18/2011 11:09 AM, Andreas Bierfert wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 08:57 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> I have a package that supplies translated man pages (only in Ukrainian
>> strangely enough). They are installed by the upstream under:
>>
>> %{_mandir}/uk/man1/
>> %{_mandir}/uk/ma
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Simo Sorce wrote:
>> Some daemons cannot be "fixed", get over with this mantra that daemons
>> need be fixed Lennart.
>
> If I were a betting man I'd wager that all the daemons we ship are
> easier to "fi
In data 18/7/2011 20:34:17, Matthew Garrett ha scritto:
> The upstream website says that right now it's only tested and working
> with the binary nvidia drivers. Does this actually work with xrandr?
The developer tell me that disper use libxrandr, if some users had problems
with the ctypes-based
Hi there,
in accordance with the announced Fedora feature[1][2], we (the Boost
maintainers) plan to rebase Boost to 1.47.0 really soon now. Boost
1.47.0 has been released recently and Denis Arnaud kindly did the
packaging, so it is ready for scratch builds, smoke testing, and related
fun.
I'll d
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 21:59, Tom Lane wrote:
> Lennart Poettering writes:
>> On Mon, 18.07.11 15:34, Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) wrote:
>>> Well, if they didn't need fixed before, they'll certainly need fixed
>>> when you make them start keeping their configuration info someplace else
>>> than /
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 21:45, Adam Miller
wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 09:16:13PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>
>> Hmm? Which ones in fedora can't? Are you suggesting we are shipping
>> software that cannot be modified? If so, please explain which one that
>> is, since we need to remove
Lennart Poettering writes:
> On Mon, 18.07.11 15:34, Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) wrote:
>> Well, if they didn't need fixed before, they'll certainly need fixed
>> when you make them start keeping their configuration info someplace else
>> than /etc/sysconfig. This proposal sounds more like "wait,
On Mon, 18.07.11 15:34, Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> Simo Sorce writes:
> > On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html
>
> >> No. There is no need for a directory that replaces /etc/sysconfig. It's
> >> bork
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 09:16:13PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> Hmm? Which ones in fedora can't? Are you suggesting we are shipping
> software that cannot be modified? If so, please explain which one that
> is, since we need to remove it from the distro then. Fedora only
> includess Free Sof
Simo Sorce writes:
> On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html
>> No. There is no need for a directory that replaces /etc/sysconfig. It's
>> borked. If a daemon has not configuration file but should have one, then
>> fi
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Simo Sorce wrote:
> Some daemons cannot be "fixed", get over with this mantra that daemons
> need be fixed Lennart.
If I were a betting man I'd wager that all the daemons we ship are
easier to "fix" than the US deficit (in both the technical sense and
in the
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 02:14:48PM -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
> > "TK" == Toshio Kuratomi writes:
>
> TK> They are now optional but there's no need to force people to be rid
> TK> of them. In particular, some people like to build a package for both
> TK> Fedora and EPEL-5. In this ca
On Mon, 18.07.11 15:13, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > 2011/7/18 Neal Becker :
> > > > This article recommends ending /etc
> "TK" == Toshio Kuratomi writes:
TK> They are now optional but there's no need to force people to be rid
TK> of them. In particular, some people like to build a package for both
TK> Fedora and EPEL-5. In this case, a lot of the things that are
TK> optional in Fedora have to remain for the E
On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > 2011/7/18 Neal Becker :
> > > This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig
> > >
> > > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html
>
On 07/18/2011 06:57 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> 2011/7/18 Neal Becker:
>>> This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig
>>>
>>> http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html
>>>
>> Generally speaking I l
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 12:48 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:36:10 -0700
> Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> ...snip...
>
> > We wanted to check that this was okay with FESCo and the feature
> > wrangler and the project in general before going ahead, so here we are
> > =) Please let u
commit f308d83740ca9e3274ed93882a452250463af647
Merge: 353f86d 2d1eb60
Author: Xavier Bachelot
Date: Mon Jul 18 20:58:50 2011 +0200
Merge branch 'master' into el6
Conflicts:
.gitignore
perl-HTTP-Server-Simple-Mason.spec
sources
.gitignore
Summary of changes:
b90cd1d... - Upstream update. (*)
c3a3b87... Fix typo that causes a failure to update the common directo (*)
75065f0... - rebuild against perl 5.10.1 (*)
03fa3db... - Mass rebuild with perl-5.12.0 (*)
be75a3c... dist-git conversion (*)
03e5901... - Upstream update.
On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> 2011/7/18 Neal Becker :
> > This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig
> >
> > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html
> >
>
> Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think
Hi,
2011/7/18 Neal Becker :
> This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig
>
> http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html
>
Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think
the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration in
/etc/services.conf/ or some
This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig
http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html
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with the binary nvidia drivers. Does this actually work with xrandr?
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Hi to all,
anybody would review my new package disper?
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=712579
Thank you in advance!
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2011/7/18 Denys Vlasenko :
> On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 18:15 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
>> The TPM allows verifying that this kernel (and only this kernel) is
>> actually running. An attacker with access to the hard drive ("evil
>> maid") can modify the code to disable any signature check that would
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 06:27:50PM -0700, Travis Davies wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Fellow Linux enthusiast here.
> I am working on developing the netperf rpm package for Fedora. I use
> this software
> daily at work and thought why not be the package maintainer, right?
> Will of course need you
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 01:20:30PM +0100, Damian L Brasher wrote:
> Hi List
>
> Referring to sections of Packaging Guidelines:
>
> No longer necessary to explicitly include %defattr at the beginning of %
> files.
>
> and the fact that the BuildRoot tag, eve if defined, is ignored.
>
> After rev
commit 86f2b0f5b5d9e765545d11f3ceaa050a78a55bb2
Author: Petr Sabata
Date: Mon Jul 18 17:33:56 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-Config-Auto.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Config-Auto.spec b/perl-Config-Auto.spec
index c28cf97..24e
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 18:15 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:21 PM, JB wrote:
> > I have done some inventory on this topic, and have some questions.
> I'm not really an expert on this... Hopefully someone will correct my
> mistakes.
>
> > Why do you need Trusted Boot mech
On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 14:06 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
> meeting today at 17:00UTC (1:00pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
> irc.freenode.net.
>
> Links to all tickets below can be found at:
> https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/repor
I want to take fcitx. I have pressed Take Ownership on pkgdb.
在 2011-7-15 上午3:40，"Bill Nottingham" 写道：
> Each release, before branching, we block currently orphaned packages.
> It's that time again for Fedora 16.
>
> New this go-round is that we are also blocking packages that have
> failed to buil
Benny Amorsen writes:
> Do any of you use _. to match e.g. the h extension?
>
> Right now _[a-z] does not match the special h extension but does match
> someone explicitly dialling "h". Would it make sense to extend this
> behaviour to the . and ! patterns, so they never match h?
>
>
> /Benny
I
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Benny Amorsen wrote:
> Do any of you use _. to match e.g. the h extension?
>
> Right now _[a-z] does not match the special h extension but does match
> someone explicitly dialling "h". Would it make sense to extend this
> behaviour to the . and ! patterns, so they
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting today at 17:00UTC (1:00pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
Links to all tickets below can be found at:
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9
= Followups =
#topic #608 F16Feature: Trusted Boot -
.fesco
Compose started at Mon Jul 18 08:15:54 UTC 2011
Broken deps for x86_64
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acheck-0.5.1-4.fc15.noarch requires perl(Text::Aspell)
almanah-0.7.3-12.fc16.x86_64 requires libedataserverui-3.0.so.0()(64bit)
almanah-0.7.3-12
Hi List
Referring to sections of Packaging Guidelines:
No longer necessary to explicitly include %defattr at the beginning of %
files.
and the fact that the BuildRoot tag, eve if defined, is ignored.
After reviewing packages I have suggested %defattr is not strictly
necessary. I have also remov
Do any of you use _. to match e.g. the h extension?
Right now _[a-z] does not match the special h extension but does match
someone explicitly dialling "h". Would it make sense to extend this
behaviour to the . and ! patterns, so they never match h?
/Benny
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Hello,
I have updated sg3_utils in rawhide to 1.31. The API/ABI of the
libsgutils2 library is not considered stable and there is no soname
change, so all consumers of the library need to be rebuild. Affected
packages are
podsleuth (FTBFS due missing hal-devel)
libgpod
lsvpd (will be built only in
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:45:33 +0100, RWMJ (Richard) wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:09:21AM +0200, Andreas Bierfert wrote:
> > On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 08:57 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > > I have a package that supplies translated man pages (only in Ukrainian
> > > strangely enough). They
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:09:21AM +0200, Andreas Bierfert wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 08:57 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > I have a package that supplies translated man pages (only in Ukrainian
> > strangely enough). They are installed by the upstream under:
> >
> > %{_mandir}/uk/man1
On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 08:57 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> I have a package that supplies translated man pages (only in Ukrainian
> strangely enough). They are installed by the upstream under:
>
> %{_mandir}/uk/man1/
> %{_mandir}/uk/man3/
I would use
%lang(uk) %{_mandir}/uk/man1/foo.1*
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I have a package that supplies translated man pages (only in Ukrainian
strangely enough). They are installed by the upstream under:
%{_mandir}/uk/man1/
%{_mandir}/uk/man3/
Maybe my Google-fu is failing me, but I can't find any guidelines on
how to package these for Fedora. Should I create
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