Re: e4defrag support?

2010-10-05 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 6 października 2010 05:01 użytkownik Eric Sandeen napisał: > Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> 2010/10/6 Eric Sandeen : >>> Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, I'm curious why e4defrag isn't enabled in e2fsprogs. Are there any problems with this tool? >>> It's had really limited test

Re: e4defrag support?

2010-10-05 Thread Eric Sandeen
Michał Piotrowski wrote: > 2010/10/6 Eric Sandeen : >> Michał Piotrowski wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm curious why e4defrag isn't enabled in e2fsprogs. Are there any >>> problems with this tool? >> It's had really limited testing, and the kernel interface has had >> some problems in the past (though I

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Dariusz J. Garbowski
On 05/10/10 08:40 AM, FlorianFesti wrote: > On 10/05/2010 03:15 PM, Nathaniel McCallum wrote: >> If the lid is open, both output should be enabled by default (you are >> free to manually disable one). If the lid is closed on battery power >> the system should suspend (unless you choose otherwise

Re: Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-10-05 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/10/6 Jesse Keating : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10/5/10 3:43 PM, Micha? Piotrowski wrote: >> Is there somewhere a list of packages potentially broken on F14? > > http://fpaste.org/7dvk/ is a list of "broken" F14 builds.  The syntax is: Thanks. I hope that all of

Re: Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-10-05 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/5/10 3:59 PM, Mamoru Tasaka wrote: >> To handle the F14 scene I've come up with this strategy: >> > * For things tagged in dist-f14 and no newer build elsewhere, do a bump, >> > build and tag directly into dist-f14. While there is some risk of >

Re: Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-10-05 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/5/10 3:56 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > Could you provide a list of the packages you are intending to rebuild? See my reply to Michal > Or at least the exact dates where the bad gcc was in use? The bad gcc was tagged into dist-f14 on Fri Sep 10 20:24:

Re: e4defrag support?

2010-10-05 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/10/6 Eric Sandeen : > Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm curious why e4defrag isn't enabled in e2fsprogs. Are there any >> problems with this tool? > > It's had really limited testing, and the kernel interface has had > some problems in the past (though I guess that's irrelevant to > sh

Re: Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-10-05 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/5/10 3:43 PM, Micha? Piotrowski wrote: > Is there somewhere a list of packages potentially broken on F14? http://fpaste.org/7dvk/ is a list of "broken" F14 builds. The syntax is: packagename : detected bad build : tag that build is in This wa

Re: Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-10-05 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Jesse Keating wrote, at 10/06/2010 07:27 AM +9:00: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > As you might be aware, there was a period of roughly two weeks where a > gcc build (gcc-4.5.1-3.fc14) in the buildroots for both Fedora 14 and > Fedora 15. Items built with this could have unde

Re: Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-10-05 Thread Tom Lane
Jesse Keating writes: > As you might be aware, there was a period of roughly two weeks where a > gcc build (gcc-4.5.1-3.fc14) in the buildroots for both Fedora 14 and > Fedora 15. Items built with this could have undefined behavior, which > could lead to data corruption. > ... > I detected all th

Re: e4defrag support?

2010-10-05 Thread Eric Sandeen
Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Hi, > > I'm curious why e4defrag isn't enabled in e2fsprogs. Are there any > problems with this tool? It's had really limited testing, and the kernel interface has had some problems in the past (though I guess that's irrelevant to shipping the userspace) I guess it's a

e4defrag support?

2010-10-05 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, I'm curious why e4defrag isn't enabled in e2fsprogs. Are there any problems with this tool? Regards, Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-10-05 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, 2010/10/6 Jesse Keating : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > As you might be aware, there was a period of roughly two weeks where a > gcc build (gcc-4.5.1-3.fc14) in the buildroots for both Fedora 14 and > Fedora 15.  Items built with this could have undefined behavior, whic

Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-10-05 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As you might be aware, there was a period of roughly two weeks where a gcc build (gcc-4.5.1-3.fc14) in the buildroots for both Fedora 14 and Fedora 15. Items built with this could have undefined behavior, which could lead to data corruption. Unfortun

[Test-Announce] 2010-09 Graphics Test Week recap

2010-10-05 Thread Adam Williamson
Another Graphics Test Week has gone by, so here's the statistical recap! A foreword - participation was substantially down this year, for which I entirely blame myself; it kind of crept up on me and I didn't get enough advance publicity out there. Most especially I didn't get the word out to Phoro

Re: Chain builds for non-rawhide

2010-10-05 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Jesse Keating wrote, at 10/06/2010 05:58 AM +9:00: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10/5/10 1:36 PM, Severin Gehwolf wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am maintaining eclipse-egit and eclipse-jgit. Since >> eclipse-egit depends on eclipse-jgit it makes sense to >> use chain-builds when b

Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2010-10-05)

2010-10-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-10-05) === Meeting started by nirik at 19:30:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-10-05/fesco.2010-10-05-19.30.log.html Meeting summary -

Re: Quick question on building f14 isos?

2010-10-05 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > There was a change in glibc during the F14 development cycle that > requires running a newer kernel in order to run the f14 binaries. > > You could probably cheat a new kernel onto F11 and then do the pungi > compose in a mock chroot of f14 c

Re: Chain builds for non-rawhide

2010-10-05 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/5/10 1:36 PM, Severin Gehwolf wrote: > Hi, > > I am maintaining eclipse-egit and eclipse-jgit. Since > eclipse-egit depends on eclipse-jgit it makes sense to > use chain-builds when building them (this is simply > faster than waiting for eclipse

Chain builds for non-rawhide

2010-10-05 Thread Severin Gehwolf
Hi, I am maintaining eclipse-egit and eclipse-jgit. Since eclipse-egit depends on eclipse-jgit it makes sense to use chain-builds when building them (this is simply faster than waiting for eclipse-jgit to build, and become available in the repos before eclipse-git can be built). Ok, that works fo

Re: Quick question on building f14 isos?

2010-10-05 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/5/10 12:59 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > For the past year or so I have built private builds of current Fedora > install isos on an old test machine running f11 using mock/pungi, and > this has generally worked well for me. I use this method to get f

Quick question on building f14 isos?

2010-10-05 Thread mike cloaked
For the past year or so I have built private builds of current Fedora install isos on an old test machine running f11 using mock/pungi, and this has generally worked well for me. I use this method to get fully up to date isos for installs that need almost no updates applying for the current stable

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 07:53:25PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> >> The BIOS generally manages to get that one correct, can we not query >> >> and keep the current state on boot? >

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 07:53:25PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >> The BIOS generally manages to get that one correct, can we not query > >> and keep the current state on boot? > > > > It really doesn't. > > Seems to work just fine from a

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 07:31:54PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> > So we could at least cover the case where you plug in an external >> > monitor, then close the lid? That would be

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 07:31:54PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > So we could at least cover the case where you plug in an external > > monitor, then close the lid? That would be better than nothing. I assume > > the problem case is bootin

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 02:27:27PM -0400, Nathaniel McCallum wrote: > On 10/05/2010 02:25 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > The range of ways that lid switches can be broken is large. One machine > > I've seen tries to read from a GPIO that's off by 16, because Intel's > > GPIO/GPE numbering is comp

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 19:20 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 11:18:32AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >> >> > don't we already have default behaviours based on the lid switch, >> > anyway? So why don't we have this pr

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 19:20 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 11:18:32AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > don't we already have default behaviours based on the lid switch, > > anyway? So why don't we have this problem with those? IIRC, we default > > to suspending the syst

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
On 10/05/2010 02:25 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 02:18:20PM -0400, Nathaniel McCallum wrote: > >> Agreed, the hardware may lie, but the kernel is the arbiter of truth, at >> least in this case. > > The range of ways that lid switches can be broken is large. One machine >

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 02:18:20PM -0400, Nathaniel McCallum wrote: > Agreed, the hardware may lie, but the kernel is the arbiter of truth, at > least in this case. The range of ways that lid switches can be broken is large. One machine I've seen tries to read from a GPIO that's off by 16, becau

[Bug 640399] New: Bundled library in mldonkey - ocaml-bitstring

2010-10-05 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: Bundled library in mldonkey - ocaml-bitstring https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=640399 Summary: Bundled library in mldonkey - ocaml-bitstring

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 10/05/2010 12:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 19:07 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 10:19:04AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 09:59 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: I think the fun will come from systems that don't properl

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 11:18:32AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > don't we already have default behaviours based on the lid switch, > anyway? So why don't we have this problem with those? IIRC, we default > to suspending the system when the lid is closed on battery power - so > are we suspending

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 11:16:44AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 19:05 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > No, but there is a use case where you'd want to have an external monitor > > connected and the system report that the lid is closed, but still have > > the internal sys

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 19:07 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 10:19:04AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 09:59 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > > I think the fun will come from systems that don't properly report their > > > lid > > > status. I think

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
On 10/05/2010 02:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 19:05 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 08:53:12AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >> >>> Maybe just 'lid closed and external monitor connected' would be close >>> enough? Is there a use case where you'd wan

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 19:05 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 08:53:12AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > Maybe just 'lid closed and external monitor connected' would be close > > enough? Is there a use case where you'd want to have an external monitor > > connected and th

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 10:19:04AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 09:59 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > I think the fun will come from systems that don't properly report their lid > > status. I think this is one of the complaints from the X developers. > > *shrug* those

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 09:24, Brandon Lozza wrote: > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> > I'll refrain from replying further on until I have a reply from > Richard, but you're totally wrong and your love for Firefox is > blinding your principals (if you have any). You woul

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 08:53:12AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Maybe just 'lid closed and external monitor connected' would be close > enough? Is there a use case where you'd want to have an external monitor > connected and the internal system's lid closed, but still have the > internal system

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 11:46 -0400, Brandon Lozza wrote: > I don't blanket label everything with open code as "free software". > Some stuff bundles things which make it non-free. Code open-ness != > free. You can call Firefox open source if you want, but it's not free > software. You certainly hav

[389-devel] Please Review: (625335) default "Enable self write for common attributes" aci has permission to invalid attribute

2010-10-05 Thread Nathan Kinder
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625335 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=451735&action=edit -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-devel

Re: not sure how to fix locale packaging

2010-10-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 11:59:44AM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > mercurial has hard-wired to install .mo files under python_sitearch, and > i18n.py has hard-coded to look there. > > On fedora, find-lang.sh is usually used to find these files, but expects to > find them in e.g., /usr/share/locale >

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 13:14 -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > Practically speaking, it would add an extra burden to the maintainers, > > who already do not have enough resources to deal with all the issues. > > Again, the reason we don't carry non-upstream patches in Firefox has > > nothing to do

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 09:59 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: > Yeah, I think this is the main issue. It can cause two problems: > > - The login screen appears on the laptop screen (which is closed) > - New windows or the desktop toolbar appear on the laptop screen (which is > closed) > > I think

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 08:22:57AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 08:34 -0400, Brandon Lozza wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > that's the entire point of having trademarks. Free software projects are > > > obliged to allow you to access

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 02:56:34PM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Kevin Kofler wrote on 02.10.2010 00:56: > > Sven Lankes wrote: > >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577653 > >> Looking at how rigorous new packages with bundled libs are fought we > >> should really stop shipping fir

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread drago01
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Brandon Lozza wrote: > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> You have to remove MoFo's artwork and perform a name >>> change or you're required to get permission from Mozilla to >>> redistribute a modified binary. That's not free. >> >> Yes, i

not sure how to fix locale packaging

2010-10-05 Thread Neal Becker
mercurial has hard-wired to install .mo files under python_sitearch, and i18n.py has hard-coded to look there. On fedora, find-lang.sh is usually used to find these files, but expects to find them in e.g., /usr/share/locale Not sure what's the best way to fix this. Either leave .mo files where

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 10/05/2010 09:53 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 09:35 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: >> On 5 October 2010 05:30, Orion Poplawski wrote: >>> Are we really stuck with gdm/kdm/lxdm/...dm >>> implementing it? >> >> No, I think what we need to do is to teach GPM how to turn off the

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
On 10/05/2010 11:53 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 09:35 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: >> On 5 October 2010 05:30, Orion Poplawski wrote: >>> Are we really stuck with gdm/kdm/lxdm/...dm >>> implementing it? >> >> No, I think what we need to do is to teach GPM how to turn off the

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Brandon Lozza wrote: > > > I don't blanket label everything with open code as "free software". > Some stuff bundles things which make it non-free. Code open-ness != > free. You can call Firefox open source if you want, but it's not free > software. > You claimed t

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 09:35 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 5 October 2010 05:30, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > Are we really stuck with gdm/kdm/lxdm/...dm > > implementing it? > > No, I think what we need to do is to teach GPM how to turn off the > internal panel when docked and with the lid clos

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 11:42 -0400, Brandon Lozza wrote: > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> You have to remove MoFo's artwork and perform a name > >> change or you're required to get permission from Mozilla to > >> redistribute a modified binary. That's not free. > > > >

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 10/05/2010 02:35 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 5 October 2010 05:30, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> Are we really stuck with gdm/kdm/lxdm/...dm >> implementing it? > > No, I think what we need to do is to teach GPM how to turn off the > internal panel when docked and with the lid closed. The only m

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread Brandon Lozza
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >  On 10/05/2010 06:26 PM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> Maybe I'm missed something, but there is a (relative) simple question >> that always pops up in my head when I read things like this. I never >> bothered to ask it in public, but I'll do n

F-14 Branched report: 20101005 changes

2010-10-05 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Tue Oct 5 13:15:37 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- almanah-0.7.3-3.fc14.x86_64 requires libedataserverui-1.2.so.10()(64bit) antlr3-python-3.1.2-7.fc14.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:2.6 frysk-0.

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread Brandon Lozza
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> You have to remove MoFo's artwork and perform a name >> change or you're required to get permission from Mozilla to >> redistribute a modified binary. That's not free. > > Yes, it is. > In a sense that you're "free" to do whatever Mozilla

[perl-Moose] update to 1.14

2010-10-05 Thread Iain Arnell
commit 41a83cd84e2a800e4e8ef13b1ad98e699ca358b6 Author: Iain Arnell Date: Tue Oct 5 17:25:38 2010 +0200 update to 1.14 - update BR perl(Class:MOP) >= 1.05 - new BR perl(Test::Requires) >= 0.05 - new R/BR perl(Package::DeprecationManager) >= 0.04 .gitignore |1 +

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
On 10/05/2010 11:21 AM, Christoph Frieben wrote: > 2010/10/5 Florian Festi: >> I wonder if there are latops that can be booted with lid closed and that >> make a subtle sematic difference between the lid was just being closed >> and is lid was already closed when we booted up. > > IBM ThinkPad T23

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 08:34 -0400, Brandon Lozza wrote: > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > that's the entire point of having trademarks. Free software projects are > > obliged to allow you to access and modify their code. They are not > > obliged to allow you to benefit f

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Christoph Frieben
2010/10/5 Florian Festi: > I wonder if there are latops that can be booted with lid closed and that > make a subtle sematic difference between the lid was just being closed > and is lid was already closed when we booted up. IBM ThinkPad T23. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org htt

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread drago01
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Brandon Lozza wrote: > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> that's the entire point of having trademarks. Free software projects are >> obliged to allow you to access and modify their code. They are not >> obliged to allow you to benefit from t

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/05/2010 06:26 PM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Maybe I'm missed something, but there is a (relative) simple question > that always pops up in my head when I read things like this. I never > bothered to ask it in public, but I'll do now: > > * Why haven't those that want iceweasel and icedove

[perl-Class-MOP/f14/master] update to 1.08

2010-10-05 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: 3a650b7... update to 1.08 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mail

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread Richard Hughes
On 5 October 2010 15:51, Brandon Lozza wrote: > It really wouldn't be a fork at all. From what I can tell it's a build > flag that can be enabled or disabled and automatically takes out the > trademark and copyright artwork. People just don't want to remove the > branding because they presume they

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread Brandon Lozza
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Maybe I'm missed something, but there is a (relative) simple question > that always pops up in my head when I read things like this. I never > bothered to ask it in public, but I'll do now: > >  * Why haven't those that want iceweasel and

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread FlorianFesti
On 10/05/2010 03:15 PM, Nathaniel McCallum wrote: > If the lid is open, both output should be enabled by default (you are > free to manually disable one). If the lid is closed on battery power > the system should suspend (unless you choose otherwise in GPM prefs). > I wonder if there are latops

[perl-Class-MOP] update to 1.08

2010-10-05 Thread Iain Arnell
commit 3a650b7cd85cf4b25519e4f4b52e30dc164dd649 Author: Iain Arnell Date: Tue Oct 5 16:34:59 2010 +0200 update to 1.08 - new BR perl(Test::Requires) >= 0.05 - new R/BR perl(Package::DeprecationManager) >= 0.04 .gitignore |1 + perl-Class-MOP.spec | 16 +

File Class-MOP-1.08.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2010-10-05 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Class-MOP: 7d0bf52ba3689d9973f1631d894c83ca Class-MOP-1.08.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/l

File Moose-1.14.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2010-10-05 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Moose: 99241b8e7b59e6c020e5f36e083ab23d Moose-1.14.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: "Command not found" misfeature

2010-10-05 Thread Richard Hughes
On 2 October 2010 11:23, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 2 October 2010 09:51, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> ..., then (sometimes, not always) displays some sort of >> error[1]. > > Yes, it's fixed upstream, apologies. There's a new release on Monday > which will be pushed to F14. https://admin.fedora

[Bug 637110] perl-HTML-Encoding-0.61 is available

2010-10-05 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=637110 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added --

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
On 10/05/2010 09:12 AM, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > On 05/10/10 07:09 AM, Nathaniel McCallum wrote: >> On 10/05/2010 09:02 AM, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >>> On 05/10/10 05:00 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 5 October 2010 09:5

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Dariusz J. Garbowski
On 05/10/10 07:09 AM, Nathaniel McCallum wrote: > On 10/05/2010 09:02 AM, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >> On 05/10/10 05:00 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: >>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: On 5 October 2010 09:55, FlorianFesti wrote: > Sorry for my may be naive questio

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
On 10/05/2010 09:02 AM, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > On 05/10/10 05:00 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: >>> On 5 October 2010 09:55, FlorianFesti wrote: Sorry for my may be naive question: Why do we need to know if we are docked or not

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Dariusz J. Garbowski
On 05/10/10 05:00 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: >> On 5 October 2010 09:55, FlorianFesti wrote: >>> Sorry for my may be naive question: Why do we need to know if we are >>> docked or not. Isn't there exactly the same situation if the external >

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Kevin Kofler wrote on 02.10.2010 00:56: > Sven Lankes wrote: >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577653 >> Looking at how rigorous new packages with bundled libs are fought we >> should really stop shipping firefox and start shipping Iceweasel. > +1 > > I really don't see why the Firef

Re: REVIEW/RFC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Updates_Policy_Draft

2010-10-05 Thread Brandon Lozza
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > We knew that this would happen.  We would lose some people.  When a > project like us goes basically directionless for years it picks up > people who have different ideas about what they want to create and where > they want to go with it.  Whe

rawhide report: 20101005 changes

2010-10-05 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue Oct 5 08:15:22 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- antlr3-python-3.1.2-7.fc14.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:2.6 bluefish-2.0.2-1.fc15.1.x86_64 requires libgucharmap.so.7()(64bit) clutter-gst-de

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread Brandon Lozza
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > that's the entire point of having trademarks. Free software projects are > obliged to allow you to access and modify their code. They are not > obliged to allow you to benefit from their reputation. It doesn't make > any sense to say 'I thin

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread Brandon Lozza
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 10/05/2010 12:37 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 11:08 -0400, Brandon Lozza wrote: >> >>> That's what i've been saying all day. It's only free software if you >>> change the name, in which case you may loose brand reco

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 5 October 2010 09:55, FlorianFesti wrote: >> Sorry for my may be naive question: Why do we need to know if we are >> docked or not. Isn't there exactly the same situation if the external >> Monitor is directly connected to the laptop? If

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Richard Hughes
On 5 October 2010 09:55, FlorianFesti wrote: > Sorry for my may be naive question: Why do we need to know if we are > docked or not. Isn't there exactly the same situation if the external > Monitor is directly connected to the laptop? If there is an external > monitor and the lid is closed don't w

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread FlorianFesti
On 10/05/2010 10:35 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: > No, I think what we need to do is to teach GPM how to turn off the > internal panel when docked and with the lid closed. The only missing > piece is for the kernel to export some kind of sysfs boolean saying > "in-dock". From talks with mjg59, detec

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Richard Hughes
On 5 October 2010 05:30, Orion Poplawski wrote: > Are we really stuck with gdm/kdm/lxdm/...dm > implementing it? No, I think what we need to do is to teach GPM how to turn off the internal panel when docked and with the lid closed. The only missing piece is for the kernel to export some kind of s

Re: process to use when missed a patch addition

2010-10-05 Thread David Timms
On 05/10/10 07:27, Jon Ciesla wrote: > In my experience, git add the patch, fedpkg commit -p, fedpkg build. > The tag is based on the git revision hash, so it's unique, no need to > bump the EVR. Cool, thanks, will do. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproj