Re: Dump frame tree in real time

2016-04-15 Thread Jip de Beer
Thanks for the reply. My problem with display lists is that they only contain this information about nodes within the viewport. I'm interested in all nodes that take up space within the document. I know Firefox can calculate the necessary information for nodes outside of the viewport because I

Re: Engineering Productivity Q1 Update

2016-04-15 Thread Nicholas Nethercote
Great stuff all around! Thank you for the update. Nick On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 4:07 AM, Jonathan Griffin wrote: > Engineering Productivity is off to a great start in 2016; here’s what we’ve > been up to in Q1. > Build System > > Build system improvements are a major priority for Engineering Prod

Re: Engineering Productivity Q1 Update

2016-04-15 Thread Ivan Enderlin
Congrats! Impressive results. Thanks for your work. On 14/04/16 20:07, Jonathan Griffin wrote: Engineering Productivity is off to a great start in 2016; here’s what we’ve been up to in Q1. Build System Build system improvements are a major priority for Engineering Productivity in 2016. The buil

Re: Intent to ship: Treat cookies set over non-secure HTTP as session cookies

2016-04-15 Thread Jason Duell
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Chris Peterson wrote: > > Focusing on third-party session cookies is an interesting idea. > "Sessionizing" non-HTTPS third-party cookies would encourage ad networks > and CDNs to use HTTPS, allowing content sites to use HTTPS without mixed > content problems. Muc

Re: Intent to ship: Treat cookies set over non-secure HTTP as session cookies

2016-04-15 Thread Jason Duell
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 2:12 AM, Jason Duell wrote: > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Chris Peterson > wrote: > >> >> Focusing on third-party session cookies is an interesting idea. >> "Sessionizing" non-HTTPS third-party cookies would encourage ad networks >> and CDNs to use HTTPS, allowing c

Re: Intent to ship: Directory picking and directory drag-and-drop

2016-04-15 Thread google
Am Mittwoch, 23. September 2015 02:33:52 UTC+2 schrieb Jonas Sicking: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: > >> The api has been extensively discussed with all browser vendors and has > >> changed substantially in response to this > > > > Can you please point me to those change

Re: One Firefox repository to rule them all

2016-04-15 Thread Andrew Halberstadt
This is really cool! Though I much prefer firefoxtree's namespace updating to keep track of remote heads over using bookmarks. I want a label that will always point to the last known head on the server, so e.g `hg update central && hg commit -m "Foo"` should not move 'central'. Using bookmarks to

Re: Intent to ship: Treat cookies set over non-secure HTTP as session cookies

2016-04-15 Thread Tantek Çelik
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Chris Peterson wrote: > Thanks for all the feedbck. I anticipated this proposal might not be > practical with real world sites, so it's better to halt it here. :) I should > have framed this email as an RFC instead of an intent to ship. > Thanks Chris for bringin

Re: Intent to ship: Directory picking and directory drag-and-drop

2016-04-15 Thread Andrea Marchesini
I'm working on this. From an implementation point of view, we have almost everything done and behind pref. There are still some patches to review but it should not take too long. The only missing piece is to change form submission but I should be able to finish it for the next week. More important

PSA: Cancel your old Try pushes

2016-04-15 Thread Ryan VanderMeulen
I'm sure most of you have experienced the pain of long backlogs on Try (Windows in particular). While we'd all love to have larger pools of test machines (and our Ops people are actively working on improving that!), one often-overlooked thing people can do to help with the backlog Right Now is to c

Re: PSA: Cancel your old Try pushes

2016-04-15 Thread Tim Guan-tin Chien
I wonder if there is any use cases to do multiple Try pushes of different changesets but with the same bug number. Should we automatically cancel the old ones when there is a new one? On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Ryan VanderMeulen < rvandermeu...@mozilla.com> wrote: > I'm sure most of you hav

Re: PSA: Cancel your old Try pushes

2016-04-15 Thread James Graham
On 15/04/16 18:09, Tim Guan-tin Chien wrote: I wonder if there is any use cases to do multiple Try pushes of different changesets but with the same bug number. Should we automatically cancel the old ones when there is a new one? Unfortunately there are legitimate uses for e.g. comparing the eff

On using MozAfterPaint properly

2016-04-15 Thread Mike Conley
Hello dev-platform, TL;DR: MozAfterPaint and nsIDOMWindowUtils has been given some extra stuff to make it easier to be sure that something you care about has been painted. This is good, at the very least, for Talos tests. Full-details: I've recently made a change to MozAfterPaint that some of yo

Re: PSA: Cancel your old Try pushes

2016-04-15 Thread Jonas Sicking
We could also make the default behavior be to cancel old pushes. And then enable push message syntax for opting in to not cancelling. / Jonas On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:19 AM, James Graham wrote: > On 15/04/16 18:09, Tim Guan-tin Chien wrote: >> >> I wonder if there is any use cases to do multip

Re: PSA: Cancel your old Try pushes

2016-04-15 Thread Jim Blandy
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > We could also make the default behavior be to cancel old pushes. And > then enable push message syntax for opting in to not cancelling. > > This could be very frustrating (and cause farm work to be wasted) if it happened accidentally. Perh

Re: PSA: Cancel your old Try pushes

2016-04-15 Thread Mike Connor
If this is a serious problem, and I can easily believe that it is, have we considered having a default behaviour of cancelling all unfinished Try jobs running for a given user when they push again? Based on how I've seen people use Try over the years, I suspect a significant majority of pushes are

Re: PSA: Cancel your old Try pushes

2016-04-15 Thread Steve Fink
See bug 593096. (Hah! I anticipated you guys by almost 700,000 bugs!) It's currently WONTFIX, but there's some relevant discussion in there. On 04/15/2016 12:46 PM, Mike Connor wrote: If this is a serious problem, and I can easily believe that it is, have we considered having a default behaviou

Re: PSA: Cancel your old Try pushes

2016-04-15 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 15/04/2016 20:46, Mike Connor wrote: For cases where a developer needs to run multiple runs at once, we can add an override in the trychooser syntax. I think that's a corner case It isn't when you do any kind of talos "need to fix / not regress perf" work. I agree with Jim that we should

Re: PSA: Cancel your old Try pushes

2016-04-15 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 4/15/16 1:09 PM, Tim Guan-tin Chien wrote: I wonder if there is any use cases to do multiple Try pushes of different changesets but with the same bug number. A significant fraction of my try pushes are like this, actually. Typically this happens when I do a try push of a multi-changeset que

Re: One Firefox repository to rule them all

2016-04-15 Thread Gregory Szorc
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:34 PM, wrote: > When will mozilla-central use generaldelta? > It's complicated. But https://hg.mozilla.org/experimental/mozilla-central-gd exists now. It is ~400 MB smaller than mozilla-central. I also filed bug 1265075 to track advertising a generaldelta bundle via the

Re: One Firefox repository to rule them all

2016-04-15 Thread Gregory Szorc
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Dave Townsend wrote: > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: > >> I'm pleased to announce the immediate availability of some *experimental* >> read-only Mercurial repositories containing the combined, useful history of >> the various Firefox repos

Re: One Firefox repository to rule them all

2016-04-15 Thread Kris Maglione
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 01:29:10PM -0700, Gregory Szorc wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Dave Townsend wrote: Does this mean that it contains the full history including CVS? No. Adding a Mercurial repo with CVS history isn't on the priority list. Make a case for it improving developer

Re: PSA: Cancel your old Try pushes

2016-04-15 Thread Kartikaya Gupta
I also often have multiple pushes going at the same time. My suggestion to solve this problem is: have a cron job that detects users who have more than N pushes with jobs still going, and send them an email saying "you have a lot of jobs going, here's the list; you might find something you should c

Re: One Firefox repository to rule them all

2016-04-15 Thread Gregory Szorc
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 7:16 AM, Andrew Halberstadt < ahalberst...@mozilla.com> wrote: > This is really cool! > > Though I much prefer firefoxtree's namespace updating to keep track of > remote heads over using bookmarks. I want a label that will always point > to the last known head on the server

Proposed W3C Charter: Timed Text Working Group

2016-04-15 Thread L. David Baron
The W3C is proposing a charter for: Timed Text Working Group http://w3c.github.io/charter-drafts/timed-text-charter-2016.html https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2016Apr/0010.html The diff between this charter and the group's previous charter is: http://services.w3.org

Re: PSA: Cancel your old Try pushes

2016-04-15 Thread Brian Grinstead
> On Apr 15, 2016, at 12:44 PM, Jim Blandy wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> We could also make the default behavior be to cancel old pushes. And >> then enable push message syntax for opting in to not cancelling. >> >> > This could be very frustrating (a

Proposed W3C Charter: Browser Testing and Tools WG

2016-04-15 Thread L. David Baron
[ also bcc:ed David Burns, who's the proposed chair of the group ] The W3C is proposing a charter for: Browser Testing and Tools Working Group http://w3c.github.io/charter-drafts/browser-testing-tools.html https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2016Apr/0006.html Mozilla has t

Re: Intent to ship: Treat cookies set over non-secure HTTP as session cookies

2016-04-15 Thread Matthew N.
On 2016-04-15 7:47 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote: What steps can we take in this direction WITHOUT breaking web compat? E.g. since one of the issues raised is that *every* time a user enters/submits a password over HTTP (not secure), it opens them to being sniffed etc., thus it's good to discourage th

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Timed Text Working Group

2016-04-15 Thread Ralph Giles
I'm not sure there's much to say here. I think we should remain uninterested in the TTML efforts. Work to define translation from CEA608 and CEA708 to WebVTT is worthwhile, and I'd like to see it supported. Unfortunately our interest in WebVTT has been mostly theoretical recently, so I don't see us

Re: Dump frame tree in real time

2016-04-15 Thread Botond Ballo
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 4:32 AM, Jip de Beer wrote: > Thanks for the reply. My problem with display lists is that they only contain > this information about nodes within the viewport. I'm interested in all nodes > that take up space within the document. > > I know Firefox can calculate the neces

Re: PSA: Cancel your old Try pushes

2016-04-15 Thread Xidorn Quan
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 1:47 AM, Ryan VanderMeulen < rvandermeu...@mozilla.com> wrote: > I'm sure most of you have experienced the pain of long backlogs on Try > (Windows in particular). While we'd all love to have larger pools of test > machines (and our Ops people are actively working on improvi

Re: PSA: Cancel your old Try pushes

2016-04-15 Thread Steve Fink
On 04/15/2016 05:11 PM, Xidorn Quan wrote: On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 1:47 AM, Ryan VanderMeulen < rvandermeu...@mozilla.com> wrote: I'm sure most of you have experienced the pain of long backlogs on Try (Windows in particular). While we'd all love to have larger pools of test machines (and our Op

Re: PSA: Cancel your old Try pushes

2016-04-15 Thread Xidorn Quan
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Steve Fink wrote: > On 04/15/2016 05:11 PM, Xidorn Quan wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 1:47 AM, Ryan VanderMeulen < >> rvandermeu...@mozilla.com> wrote: >> >> I'm sure most of you have experienced the pain of long backlogs on Try >>> (Windows in particular).

Re: PSA: Cancel your old Try pushes

2016-04-15 Thread KWierso
On Friday, April 15, 2016 at 5:11:55 PM UTC-7, Xidorn Quan wrote: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 1:47 AM, Ryan VanderMeulen < > rvandermeu...@mozilla.com> wrote: > > > I'm sure most of you have experienced the pain of long backlogs on Try > > (Windows in particular). While we'd all love to have larger

Re: One Firefox repository to rule them all

2016-04-15 Thread smaug
On 04/15/2016 11:29 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Dave Townsend wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: I'm pleased to announce the immediate availability of some *experimental* read-only Mercurial repositories containing the combined, useful

Re: Intent to ship: Treat cookies set over non-secure HTTP as session cookies

2016-04-15 Thread Chris Peterson
On 4/15/16 7:47 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote: What steps can we take in this direction WITHOUT breaking web compat? Would this feature actually break web compatibility? Or just needlessly annoy users? In his original post, Henri argued that clearing non-HTTPS cookies between sessions would not "B

Re: One Firefox repository to rule them all

2016-04-15 Thread Nicholas Nethercote
For me, having the CVS history in the mozilla-central repo would be much more helpful than having all the different repositories in one. Nick On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 11:41 AM, smaug wrote: > On 04/15/2016 11:29 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: >> >> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Dave Townsend >> wro