Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Botond Ballo
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:39 PM, Justin Dolske wrote: > On 4/21/15 5:26 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: > ... >> >> - the biggest backout rate for those authors is 48.8%. > > The suspense is killing me. Is it Ehsan?! ;-) ;-) Clearly not: On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: > by raw numb

AsyncPanZoom enabled for one Nightly - 4/22/2015 - Windows E10S only

2015-04-21 Thread David Anderson
To get some feedback on AsyncPanZoom we are enabling it on tonight's nightly, for Windows only. It will be re-disabled in the next nightly. For those unfamiliar, APZ makes scrolling responsive by pre-rendering more content than what is visible in the viewport [1]. This lets us present it asynch

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Justin Dolske
On 4/21/15 5:26 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: ... - the biggest backout rate for those authors is 48.8%. The suspense is killing me. Is it Ehsan?! ;-) ;-) Justin ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo

Re: RFC: Navigation transitions

2015-04-21 Thread Christopher Lord
That sounds like a nice idea, though I wonder how you'd specify the duration of the application of the stylesheet via a media query? On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Christopher Lord > wrote: > > http://chrislord.net/?p=273&preview=1&

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 09:26:12AM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 02:50:43PM -0400, Andrew Halberstadt wrote: > > On 21/04/15 02:41 PM, Chris Peterson wrote: > > >On 4/21/15 11:27 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > > >>>I agree that it shouldn't be 10%. Hopefully once we have the autol

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 02:50:43PM -0400, Andrew Halberstadt wrote: > On 21/04/15 02:41 PM, Chris Peterson wrote: > >On 4/21/15 11:27 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > >>>I agree that it shouldn't be 10%. Hopefully once we have the autolander > >>>this will be a non-issue. > >> > >>It would be a huge help

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Martin Thomson
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Ryan VanderMeulen wrote: > Seeing how often I get pushback from people over backouts, I wouldn't agree > with this premise, FWIW. People, remember to *thank* the person who backs out your code. Just like you should thank people for finding your bugs. Better now

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Trevor Saunders
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 03:31:28PM -0700, Bobby Holley wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Robert O'Callahan > wrote: > > > Right. Someone just needs to collect the data *privately* and then notify > > people or take other remedial action. > > > > Personally, I'd much rather keep an eye on

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
I personally have no objection to my name being publicly visible on the list. I don't care either way about the ability to see other people's names, as long as I know where I stand. Oh, and if we want to remain anonymous, I'm sure we can all be randomly affected city names or whatever. This will g

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Nick Fitzgerald
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Bobby Holley wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Nick Fitzgerald > wrote: > >> >> >> ​And this can surely be done via private channels​, without public >> shaming and the potential negatives people have listed elsewhere in the >> thread, right? >> > > How,

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Ryan VanderMeulen
On 4/21/2015 4:56 PM, jmath...@mozilla.com wrote: I think we're being bit too sensitive here, I'm sure we can all handle a little public shaming on stuff like this. :) If you find yourself on the top of a list like list, and you feel a bit bad about it, good. Learn from it, push to try more of

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Bobby Holley
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Nick Fitzgerald wrote: > > > ​And this can surely be done via private channels​, without public shaming > and the potential negatives people have listed elsewhere in the thread, > right? > How, exactly?I want the ability to see where I match up against my peers.

We now throttle requestAnimationFrame for offscreen iframes

2015-04-21 Thread Seth Fowler
Hi all, Bug 1145439 has landed, which means that we now throttle requestAnimationFrame for offscreen iframes. This should give us significant benefits in terms of CPU and energy usage for pages with iframes that do animation - think HTML5 ads. One test, on areweflashyet.com, showed a 50% improvem

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Nick Fitzgerald
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Bobby Holley wrote: > It's not about making mistakes - it's about being mis-calibrated with > respect to the rest of the development community. And it's not about > shaming - it's about making people (both the developer and others) aware of > these mismatches so t

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Bobby Holley
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote: > Right. Someone just needs to collect the data *privately* and then notify > people or take other remedial action. > Personally, I'd much rather keep an eye on the leaderboard and police myself, rather than waiting for somebody to send m

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Botond Ballo
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:06 PM, L. David Baron wrote: > I think it would be good to have metrics on rates at which different > people break inbound, partly because I think the system works better > when people use a similar amount of care to each other (as opposed > to some people being less care

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Andrew Halberstadt < ahalberst...@mozilla.com> wrote: > But contributors aside, it could be de-motivating for employees too. If I > break inbound, I already feel really bad about it.. no need to rub it in my > face :). If there are employees who are blatantly abusi

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Bobby Holley
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Mike Hoye wrote: > On 2015-04-21 4:56 PM, jmath...@mozilla.com wrote: > >> I think we're being bit too sensitive here, I'm sure we can all handle a >> little public shaming on stuff like this. >> > We should not do this. There aren't a lot of things that will rot

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Mike Hoye
On 2015-04-21 4:56 PM, jmath...@mozilla.com wrote: I think we're being bit too sensitive here, I'm sure we can all handle a little public shaming on stuff like this. We should not do this. There aren't a lot of things that will rot organizational morale and make people risk-averse faster and mo

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 03:11:36PM -0400, Andrew Halberstadt wrote: > On 21/04/15 03:02 PM, Aaron Klotz wrote: > >On 4/21/2015 12:50 PM, Andrew Halberstadt wrote: > >> > >>This could be effective, but if not implemented with care it could > >>also be very de-motivating, especially for a well-intent

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread jmathies
On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 2:11:43 PM UTC-5, Andrew Halberstadt wrote: > On 21/04/15 03:02 PM, Aaron Klotz wrote: > > On 4/21/2015 12:50 PM, Andrew Halberstadt wrote: > >> > >> This could be effective, but if not implemented with care it could > >> also be very de-motivating, especially for a we

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2015-04-21 3:30 PM, Aaron Klotz wrote: Sure, a valid point. A public shaming is not necessary. I think people may have misunderstood what I suggested. How about a tool that lets you login through Persona and then tells you (and only you) how well you're doing? :-) _

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread L. David Baron
I think it would be good to have metrics on rates at which different people break inbound, partly because I think the system works better when people use a similar amount of care to each other (as opposed to some people being less careful and breaking inbound a lot, and others being very careful an

Re: RFC: Navigation transitions

2015-04-21 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Christopher Lord wrote: > http://chrislord.net/?p=273&preview=1&_ppp=0afe20d87f I haven't reviewed it completely, but it seems at the very least you should use media queries rather than require separate stylesheets. -- https://annevankesteren.nl/ _

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Trevor Saunders
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 03:11:36PM -0400, Andrew Halberstadt wrote: > On 21/04/15 03:02 PM, Aaron Klotz wrote: > >On 4/21/2015 12:50 PM, Andrew Halberstadt wrote: > >> > >>This could be effective, but if not implemented with care it could > >>also be very de-motivating, especially for a well-intent

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Aaron Klotz
On 4/21/2015 1:11 PM, Andrew Halberstadt wrote: On 21/04/15 03:02 PM, Aaron Klotz wrote: On 4/21/2015 12:50 PM, Andrew Halberstadt wrote: This could be effective, but if not implemented with care it could also be very de-motivating, especially for a well-intentioned contributor. Is this real

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Andrew Halberstadt
On 21/04/15 03:02 PM, Aaron Klotz wrote: On 4/21/2015 12:50 PM, Andrew Halberstadt wrote: This could be effective, but if not implemented with care it could also be very de-motivating, especially for a well-intentioned contributor. Is this really an issue though, given the time and effort req

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Aaron Klotz
On 4/21/2015 12:50 PM, Andrew Halberstadt wrote: This could be effective, but if not implemented with care it could also be very de-motivating, especially for a well-intentioned contributor. Is this really an issue though, given the time and effort required to earn sufficient commit access

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Andrew Halberstadt
On 21/04/15 02:41 PM, Chris Peterson wrote: On 4/21/15 11:27 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: I agree that it shouldn't be 10%. Hopefully once we have the autolander this will be a non-issue. It would be a huge help if someone made a little tool which would show you how often one specific person break

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Chris Peterson
On 4/21/15 11:27 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: I agree that it shouldn't be 10%. Hopefully once we have the autolander this will be a non-issue. It would be a huge help if someone made a little tool which would show you how often one specific person breaks inbound. I would definitely like to know w

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2015-04-21 12:20 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Ms2ger wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/21/2015 06:07 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 8:39 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 3:03:37 AM UTC-5, Gabriele Svelto w

Re: Change coming to ftp.mozilla.org

2015-04-21 Thread Kevin Brosnan
This form has some issues. There are required sections of "Downloading with scripts and other programs" that only make sense for developers of the script or download tool. - Which protocols do you use ? (no idea whatever mozregression uses) - Please describe what your scripts/programs/scrape

RFC: Navigation transitions

2015-04-21 Thread Christopher Lord
Hi people, I've spent the last week or so articulating some thoughts on navigation transitions. This is something I've thought about before (as I'm sure a lot of us have), but seeing Google's proposal encouraged me to get it written down. I'm not a huge fan of all aspects of their proposal, so I'v

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Ms2ger wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 04/21/2015 06:07 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 8:39 AM, wrote: > > > >> On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 3:03:37 AM UTC-5, Gabriele Svelto > >> wrote: > >>> On 21/04/2015

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Ms2ger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/21/2015 06:07 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 8:39 AM, wrote: > >> On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 3:03:37 AM UTC-5, Gabriele Svelto >> wrote: >>> On 21/04/2015 08:25, Gabor Krizsanits wrote: Maybe because I usually work o

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 8:39 AM, wrote: > On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 3:03:37 AM UTC-5, Gabriele Svelto wrote: > > On 21/04/2015 08:25, Gabor Krizsanits wrote: > > > Maybe because I usually work on core, and such confidence is hard to > reach > > > there, but I'd like to think at least a try ru

Re: From nsIntSize to gfx::IntSize

2015-04-21 Thread Nicolas Silva
Hi dev-platform, Heads up: I just landed on Inbound a patch that gives nsIntPoint and nsIntRect the same treatment I gave to nsIntSize: these two classes are now typedefs of mozilla::gfx::IntPoint and mozilla::gfx::IntRect, which means that they can't be forward-declared as they used to, but other

Re: Intent to deprecate: Insecure HTTP

2015-04-21 Thread Mike Hoye
On 2015-04-21 6:43 AM, skuldw...@gmail.com wrote: I know, not that well explained and over simplified. But the concept is hopefully clear, but in case it's not... For what it's worth, a lot of really smart people have been thinking about this problem for a while and there aren't a lot of easy bu

Re: Intent to deprecate: Insecure HTTP

2015-04-21 Thread Gervase Markham
Very briefly: On 21/04/15 12:43, skuldw...@gmail.com wrote: > 1. User downloads a browser (be it Firefox, Chrome, Opera, etc.) > securely (https?) from the official download location. 2. Upon > installation a private key is created for that browser installation > and signed by the browser's certif

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread jmathies
On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 3:03:37 AM UTC-5, Gabriele Svelto wrote: > On 21/04/2015 08:25, Gabor Krizsanits wrote: > > Maybe because I usually work on core, and such confidence is hard to reach > > there, but I'd like to think at least a try run that check if the patch > > builds on all platform

Re: Intent to deprecate: Insecure HTTP

2015-04-21 Thread skuldwyrm
On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 4:57:58 PM UTC+2, Richard Barnes wrote: > In order to encourage web developers to move from HTTP to HTTPS, I would > like to propose establishing a deprecation plan for HTTP without security. I think server side SSL certificates should be deprecated as a means to encry

Change coming to ftp.mozilla.org

2015-04-21 Thread Nick Thomas
ftp.mozilla.org has been around for a long time in the world of Mozilla, dating back to original source release in 1998. Originally it was a single server, but it’s grown into a cluster storing more than 60TB of data, and serving more than a gigabit/s in traffic. Many projects store their files the

Re: Excessive inbound bustage

2015-04-21 Thread Gabriele Svelto
On 21/04/2015 08:25, Gabor Krizsanits wrote: > Maybe because I usually work on core, and such confidence is hard to reach > there, but I'd like to think at least a try run that check if the patch > builds on all platform and a full test run on at least one platform is not > too much sacrifice of on