Re: The future of PGO on Windows

2013-02-04 Thread Ryan VanderMeulen
On 2/4/2013 9:59 PM, Dave Mandelin wrote: I was talking to Taras and Naveed about this today, and what also came up was: 4. Do the work to make 64-bit JS jit perf as good as 32-bit JS jit perf, and then switch to x64 builds for Windows. There are of course many issues involved with such a switc

Re: The future of PGO on Windows

2013-02-04 Thread Dave Mandelin
On Monday, February 4, 2013 1:39:46 PM UTC-8, Brian Smith wrote: > Also, I want to echo khuey's comment: It seems like a lot of the argument > against PGO is that, while our benchmarks are faster, users won't actually > notice any difference. If that is true, then I agree with khuey that that is

Re: The future of PGO on Windows

2013-02-04 Thread Dave Mandelin
On Friday, February 1, 2013 7:19:04 PM UTC-8, Brian Smith wrote: > Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > > > Given the above, I'd like to propose the following long-term > > > solutions: > > > > 1. Did we try escalating a support request to Microsoft regarding this issue? > I know it is kind of an odd thing

Re: The future of PGO on Windows

2013-02-04 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2013-02-04 4:39 PM, Brian Smith wrote:> Ehsan Akhgari wrote: >> On 2013-02-04 11:44 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: >>> 3. What is the performance difference between Visual Studio >>> 2012 PGO builds and Visual Studio 2010 builds? IMO, before >>> we decide whether to disable PGO on Wind

Re: The future of PGO on Windows

2013-02-04 Thread Benjamin Smedberg
On 2/4/2013 4:27 PM, Brian Smith wrote: Ehsan Akhgari wrote: Brian Smith wrote: 2. AFAICT, we did not seriously investigate the possibility of splitting things out of libxul more. So far we've tried cutting things off the top of the dependency tree. Maybe now we need to try cutting things off t

Re: The future of PGO on Windows

2013-02-04 Thread Brian Smith
Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > On 2013-02-04 11:44 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > > 3. What is the performance difference between Visual Studio > > 2012 PGO builds and Visual Studio 2010 builds? IMO, before > > we decide whether to disable PGO on Windows, we need to get > > good benchmark resul

Re: The future of PGO on Windows

2013-02-04 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2013-02-04 4:27 PM, Brian Smith wrote: Ehsan Akhgari wrote: Brian Smith wrote: 2. AFAICT, we did not seriously investigate the possibility of splitting things out of libxul more. So far we've tried cutting things off the top of the dependency tree. Maybe now we need to try cutting things off

Re: The future of PGO on Windows

2013-02-04 Thread Brian Smith
Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > Brian Smith wrote: > > 2. AFAICT, we did not seriously investigate the possibility of > > splitting things out of libxul more. So far we've tried cutting > > things off the top of the dependency tree. Maybe now we need to try > > cutting things off the bottom of the dependenc

fw: Rendering meeting today, 2:30 PM US/Pacific

2013-02-04 Thread Jet Villegas
Re-sending in case you missed this invitation over the weekend. --Jet - Original Message - From: "Benoit Jacob" To: "dev-platform" , "dev-plann...@lists.mozilla.org planning" Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2013 2:05:46 PM Subject: Rendering meeting this Monday, 2:30 PM US/Pacific Hello,

Re: Let's never, ever, shut down NSS -- even in debug builds

2013-02-04 Thread Jim Blandy
On 02/01/2013 09:49 PM, Philip Chee wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 02:40:01 +0100, Robert Kaiser wrote: >> Robert Relyea schrieb: >>> Switching to SQLite would make this a non-issue. >> >> Is there a plan to do this? An open bug? Someone working on it? >> >> Robert Kaiser > > Doesn't SQLite come wit

Re: print preview and documentation

2013-02-04 Thread Martijn
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Zack Weinberg wrote: > On 2013-02-04 9:26 AM, Zack Weinberg wrote: >> >> On 2013-02-04 9:20 AM, rvj wrote: >>> >>> BTW Is there a pref that suppresses the annoying Preview Progress box .. >>> >>> or least are you able to move it out of the visible display area ? >>

Re: The future of PGO on Windows

2013-02-04 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2013-02-04 11:44 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: 3. What is the performance difference between Visual Studio 2012 PGO builds and Visual Studio 2010 builds? IMO, before we decide whether to disable PGO on Windows, we need to get good benchmark results for Visual Studio **2012** PGO bui

Re: print preview and documentation

2013-02-04 Thread Zack Weinberg
On 2013-02-04 9:26 AM, Zack Weinberg wrote: On 2013-02-04 9:20 AM, rvj wrote: BTW Is there a pref that suppresses the annoying Preview Progress box .. or least are you able to move it out of the visible display area ? There isn't a pref, I misremembered. Does print.show_print_progress = fa

Re: print preview and documentation

2013-02-04 Thread Zack Weinberg
On 2013-02-04 9:20 AM, rvj wrote: BTW Is there a pref that suppresses the annoying Preview Progress box .. or least are you able to move it out of the visible display area ? There isn't a pref, but that box is going to be replaced with something more modern and more customizable in bug 650960

Re: print preview and documentation

2013-02-04 Thread rvj
BTW Is there a pref that suppresses the annoying Preview Progress box .. or least are you able to move it out of the visible display area ? "smaug" wrote in message news:09edndvwwunnyjpmnz2dnuvz_rcdn...@mozilla.org... On 02/02/2013 11:37 AM, rvj wrote: Its been a couple of years since Ive us

Re: print preview and documentation

2013-02-04 Thread rvj
many many thanks .. rvj "smaug" wrote in message news:09edndvwwunnyjpmnz2dnuvz_rcdn...@mozilla.org... On 02/02/2013 11:37 AM, rvj wrote: Its been a couple of years since Ive used the Mozilla libraries and some of the functionality now seems iffy For example print preview requests now gen

Re: How does one debug uninitialized value usage from JavaScript (TB) ?

2013-02-04 Thread ishikawa
I think I got a little confused. I was thinking of "--read-var-info=yes" instead of "--track-origins=yes". Sorry about the confusion. memgrind can grok --track-origins=yes with (debug build) of TB in 64 bit linux fine. It is "--read-var-info=yes" that causes a big problem. I allocated 6GB to m

Re: print preview and documentation

2013-02-04 Thread smaug
On 02/02/2013 11:37 AM, rvj wrote: Its been a couple of years since Ive used the Mozilla libraries and some of the functionality now seems iffy For example print preview requests now generate an invalid pointer error error[Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004003 (NS_ERROR_I

Re: The future of PGO on Windows

2013-02-04 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Brian Smith wrote: > Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > > Given the above, I'd like to propose the following long-term > > solutions: > > 1. Did we try escalating a support request to Microsoft regarding this > issue? I know it is kind of an odd thing, but it seems like if yo

Re: The future of PGO on Windows

2013-02-04 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
(Re-posting to dev-platform -- I had replied to Nick privately by mistake. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Nicholas Nethercote wrote: > On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Ehsan Akhgari > wrote: > >> > >> Has anyone tried running PGO and non-PGO builds of the same changeset > >> to see how they feel