Re: Node.js port, current thoughts

2020-05-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I am going to have to push Whimsy down to third priority for the next couple of weeks, behind an urgent bug and preparing for the May board meeting. However, some of my prior experience may be useful in thinking about this. My last job was working on design of multiprocessors - I was performa

Re: Decision point: node.js vs. Ruby

2020-05-01 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 5/1/2020 1:23 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 3:03 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote: I don't want to mislead you about my HTML skills. I understand the basic concepts and syntax. On the other hand, my last professional user interface experience was in the 1970's. I d

Re: Decision point: node.js vs. Ruby

2020-05-01 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/30/2020 2:08 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 1:14 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote: After a few days attending to other things, it is time for me to get back to learning Whimsy. I can go in either of two directions, Ruby or node.js. Each involves getting fluent in a programming

Re: Decision point: node.js vs. Ruby

2020-05-01 Thread Patricia Shanahan
, Matlab, Forth, Verilog, and Perl, so I am well prepared for learning a different language. On Apr 30, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: After a few days attending to other things, it is time for me to get back to learning Whimsy. I can go in either of two directions, Ruby or node.

Decision point: node.js vs. Ruby

2020-04-30 Thread Patricia Shanahan
After a few days attending to other things, it is time for me to get back to learning Whimsy. I can go in either of two directions, Ruby or node.js. Each involves getting fluent in a programming language in which I've only written tiny programs, as well as learning my way around Whimsy. Neithe

Re: Getting started (Re: Porting whimsy to Node.js?)

2020-04-27 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/27/2020 11:26 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 1:38 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote: After doing that, how do I start my local Whimsy? Visit http://whimsy.local/ - Sam Ruby Thanks. I've attached my notes, based on extracts from the e-mails. -- This email has been ch

Re: Getting started (Re: Porting whimsy to Node.js?)

2020-04-27 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/27/2020 6:36 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 9:17 AM Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/24/2020 12:42 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 2:43 PM Sam Ruby wrote: This next block will get whimsy installed, but you won't be able to do much with it until we get

Re: Getting started (Re: Porting whimsy to Node.js?)

2020-04-27 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/24/2020 12:42 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 2:43 PM Sam Ruby wrote: This next block will get whimsy installed, but you won't be able to do much with it until we get a web server up and running, which will be next. As promised, here is the next block: cd /srv/whimsy rak

Re: Getting started (Re: Porting whimsy to Node.js?)

2020-04-27 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/27/2020 3:55 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 10:08 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/24/2020 12:42 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: ... But what you can do is develop, and test, CGI scripts. If you get something interesting working, submit a pull request so that we can take a look at

Re: Getting started (Re: Porting whimsy to Node.js?)

2020-04-26 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/24/2020 12:42 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: ... But what you can do is develop, and test, CGI scripts. If you get something interesting working, submit a pull request so that we can take a look at it. Have fun! For optimum fun I would like an environment in which I can play freely, with no wor

Re: A potential developer's story: Porting whimsy to Node.js?

2020-04-24 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/24/2020 4:16 PM, Craig Russell wrote: Ok, I got stuck here: I cloned the repo: git clone https://github.com/rubys/whimsy-board-agenda-nodejs.git Cloning into 'whimsy-board-agenda-nodejs'... I was told I could not fork it. Not sure if what I'm doing is all throwaway but I'm willing to try.

Re: Getting started (Re: Porting whimsy to Node.js?)

2020-04-24 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/24/2020 10:24 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 1:02 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/24/2020 6:52 AM, Matt Sicker wrote: That happened to me on my first run. Try restarting it. Thanks. I've tried restarting several times, both with and without restarting Ubuntu. No

Re: Getting started (Re: Porting whimsy to Node.js?)

2020-04-24 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/24/2020 6:52 AM, Matt Sicker wrote: That happened to me on my first run. Try restarting it. Thanks. I've tried restarting several times, both with and without restarting Ubuntu. No luck. On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 08:35 Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/23/2020 8:05 PM, Sam Ruby

Re: Getting started (Re: Porting whimsy to Node.js?)

2020-04-24 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/23/2020 8:05 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:43 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote: ... This is odd. Apparently Ubuntu decided to unbundle npm, requiring you to install it separately: sudo apt install npm The next problem is that they are including an old version of node (10

Re: Getting started (Re: Porting whimsy to Node.js?)

2020-04-23 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/23/2020 7:14 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: ... My bad. Uninstall yarnpkg, and then follow these instructions: https://classic.yarnpkg.com/en/docs/install#debian-stable sudo snap install --classic code git clone https://github.com/rubys/whimsy-board-agenda-nodejs cd whimsy-board-agenda-nodejs yarn

Re: Getting started (Re: Porting whimsy to Node.js?)

2020-04-23 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/23/2020 4:34 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:08 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/23/2020 12:51 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/23/2020 12:34 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: ... 3) use a full VM, like VirtualBox, which is free. You should be up and running in minutes. Ubuntu

Re: Getting started (Re: Porting whimsy to Node.js?)

2020-04-23 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/23/2020 12:51 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/23/2020 12:34 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: ... 3) use a full VM, like VirtualBox, which is free.  You should be up and running in minutes.  Ubuntu 20.04 came out today, and I will be installing it shortly (first on a dual boot basis on one of my

Re: Getting started (Re: Porting whimsy to Node.js?)

2020-04-23 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/23/2020 12:34 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 1:58 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/20/2020 6:49 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 8:38 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote: ... Docker looked to me like a good way of getting a Ubuntu environment for Whimsy development

Re: Getting started (Re: Porting whimsy to Node.js?)

2020-04-23 Thread Patricia Shanahan
t. On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 12:58, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/20/2020 6:49 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 8:38 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote: ... Docker looked to me like a good way of getting a Ubuntu environment for Whimsy development under Windows 10. Is there a better way of

Re: Getting started (Re: Porting whimsy to Node.js?)

2020-04-23 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/20/2020 6:49 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 8:38 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote: ... Docker looked to me like a good way of getting a Ubuntu environment for Whimsy development under Windows 10. Is there a better way of doing that? Given your description, I would suggest that

Re: Getting started (Re: Porting whimsy to Node.js?)

2020-04-20 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/20/2020 6:49 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 8:38 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/20/2020 3:07 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 1:57 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote: Shane answered based primarily on the current (Ruby) code base. I'll focus on the node pre-

Getting started (Re: Porting whimsy to Node.js?)

2020-04-20 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/20/2020 3:07 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 1:57 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote: Shane answered based primarily on the current (Ruby) code base. I'll focus on the node pre-alpha. I have two questions: 1. What should I be learning and practicing to be able to help? It

Re: Porting whimsy to Node.js?

2020-04-20 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I have two questions: 1. What should I be learning and practicing to be able to help? It looks like JavaScript and React. Is that correct? 2. A couple of days ago I found a web page that gave a couple of docker commands for building and running, given a repository clone. I have installed doc

Re: Porting whimsy to Node.js?

2020-03-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/19/2020 9:11 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:48 AM Patricia Shanahan wrote: What mailing list should be used for discussing Whimsy implementation? At the top of this thread, I pointed people to dev@whimsical.apache.org. I encourage people who reply to this email to move