On 3/19/2020 9:11 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:48 AM Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> wrote:
What mailing list should be used for discussing Whimsy implementation?
At the top of this thread, I pointed people to
dev@whimsical.apache.org. I encourage people who reply to this email
to move the conversation there. I would do that, but that's a public
list and I would be including content from a message sent to a private
list. Everyone has my permission to copy my parts of this email
there.
I would prefer to see effort expended on a clear list of the languages
and tools I would need to know to contribute to Whimsy in general, with
pointers to documentation and recommended tutorials, and a tutorial on
how to go about changing or adding a feature. Adding more tools to the
list seems undesirable.
If you go to whimsy.apache.org and click on the About link at the top
right of the page, you will be taken to:
https://whimsy.apache.org/technology
Thanks. I will get reading.
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I am not a fan of machine converted code. One tends to get very stilted,
unnatural code in the new language, rather like machine translation of
natural language. I have only done a little Javascript programming, and
no Ruby, but I would be pleasantly surprised if the most natural,
idiomatic way of doing things were the same in the two languages.
They actually are very close, meaning that a machine translation is
largely feasible. Compare:
https://github.com/rubys/whimsy-board-agenda-nodejs/blob/master/src/server/agenda/special.js
https://github.com/apache/whimsy/blob/master/lib/whimsy/asf/agenda/special.rb
I have a tool that does a one way conversion from Ruby to Javascript.
You can try it out here:
https://whimsy.apache.org/ruby2js/functions
Given my current situation, no Ruby and only very basic Javascript,
which should I study now? I have some Javascript books, but if I should
learn Ruby I would welcome recommendations. I prefer books that teach a
language from scratch to "conversion" books. Each language I've used has
its own mindset, and I find that easier to get if I ignore all the
languages I already know and concentrate on thinking in the one I'm
learning.
I am mainly interested in areas other than the agenda, and in adding new
areas. For example, it should be possible to fully participate in the
Members' Meeting without using Subversion. Between increased recognition
for non-programming contributions, and young programmers growing up with
Git, we may already have members who do not know Subversion, and we will
be likely to have more in the future.
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