Because there is only one Tex and many browsers. If you stick on a
single browser you can perfectly control that rendering.
What about adding printing functionalitoes to surf? A non interactive
mode could be used to generate a PDF for presentations.
Btw in PDF happens sometimes the same that in
Suraj Kurapati dixit (2009-09-05, 20:54):
> > Position in books I read is remembered by a simple device called a
> > bookmark. No need for advanced tech on silicon+software on that. :)
>
> Your answer reminds me of The Complicator's Gloves story[1], quite suckless!
>
> [1]: http://thedailywtf.co
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 3:29 AM, Antoni Grzymala wrote:
> Mate Nagy dixit (2009-09-05, 12:17):
>> Books on paper are great, although the interface is a bit dated; I'd
>> much rather have the 90dpi PDA screen that remembers my position in
>> multiple books, and sometimes I can even search for stuff.
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:56 AM, QUINTIN Guillaume wrote:
> Do you guys know a (working) typesetting system other than latex ?
Although not a true typesetting system, my ERBook project[1] attempts
to bridge the gap between traditional static, for-print styling (i.e.
TeX) and modern interactive, on-
On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 11:52:03AM +0200, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> easy processing and searching of digital documents made a huge
> difference, but copy pasting from a pdf is a pain when there are
> ligatures and hyphenation etc.
This isn't true. Any sane PDF reader converts ligatures to their
non-l
[2009-09-05 11:22] sta...@cs.tu-berlin.de
> * Mate Nagy [2009-09-05 10:19]:
> > This is the most serious drawback of TeX. Documents should look like
> > how the user wants them, not how the author wants them.
>
> --snip--
>
> I agree, ideally, the user should be able to see the stuff in a way h
Mate Nagy dixit (2009-09-05, 12:17):
> > High quality fonts, ligatures, proper hyphenation and other subtle
> > typographic elements (yes, with lots of added complexity, thank you very
> > much) are a *big* gain and make perfect sense when typeset at 2450 dpi;
> > pretending that text set on a 90
Hiho,
On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 11:59:39AM +0200, Antoni Grzymala wrote:
> Szabolcs Nagy >>dixit<< (2009-09-05, 10:35):
also,
> This is purest craps of crap. A high quality book typeset by a
> knowledgeable typesetter is *incomparable* to any automatically
> generated text that you get on screen/PDA
Szabolcs Nagy dixit (2009-09-05, 10:35):
> > There's also that pagination is annoying and obsolete now, but this is
> > mostly related to the former point.
>
> +1
>
> all printed documents are obsolete and any system that is optimized
> for the 'paper' display medium
>
> same applies to hyphena
On 9/5/09, markus schnalke wrote:
> [2009-09-05 10:35] Szabolcs Nagy
>>
>> all printed documents are obsolete
>
>> [...] and ligatures which [...] provides no gain [...]
>
> I don't agree on these two statements.
>
> When it's about ease of reading, then typography is very important.
> Well types
* Mate Nagy [2009-09-05 10:19]:
> This is the most serious drawback of TeX. Documents should look like
> how the user wants them, not how the author wants them.
I think a major requirement is that the author (and user) need to be sure
that the user is able to see the author's stuff unaltered desp
[2009-09-05 10:35] Szabolcs Nagy
>
> all printed documents are obsolete
> [...] and ligatures which [...] provides no gain [...]
I don't agree on these two statements.
When it's about ease of reading, then typography is very important.
Well typeset paper books are much easier to read than othe
On 9/5/09, Mate Nagy wrote:
> Hiho,
> On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 08:29:39AM -, hessi...@hessiess.com wrote:
>> But these features are non-standard and will not work the same on
>> different viewers, hence the point, HTML NEVER prints the same from two
>> different viewers. Generally the point of
[2009-09-05 08:29] hessi...@hessiess.com
>
> [...] HTML NEVER prints the same from two
> different viewers. Generally the point of systems like TeX is you can
> garentee that a document will always look the same, regardless of if it
> was typeset now or 10 years in the future.
I know, this is a
Hiho,
On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 08:29:39AM -, hessi...@hessiess.com wrote:
> But these features are non-standard and will not work the same on
> different viewers, hence the point, HTML NEVER prints the same from two
> different viewers. Generally the point of systems like TeX is you can
> garent
But these features are non-standard and will not work the same on
different viewers, hence the point, HTML NEVER prints the same from two
different viewers. Generally the point of systems like TeX is you can
garentee that a document will always look the same, regardless of if it
was typeset now or
HAI
2009/9/2 QUINTIN Guillaume :
> And a good soft to make presentations ?
http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~dmi1000/multitalk/
THX
[2009-09-02 13:56] QUINTIN Guillaume
>
> Do you guys know a (working) typesetting system other than latex ?
I used Latex for most of my typesetting work, but I (also?) feel the
want for a smaller software. Don Knuth is great ... but `troff'
complies more with the Unix Philosophy.
Thus, in futur
Have retards taken over suckless?
Or is this all some big sick joke?
uriel
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:31 AM, thomas wrote:
> 2009/9/2 :
>>> I recommend type setting using HTML.
>
> I second this: HTML, then a conversion to pdf.
>
>> HTML is useless for document typesetting for a number of reason
I have a problem too with xml. Though html5 as a publishing format
sucks a whole lot less than the alternatives.
On 9/3/09, Kai Hendry wrote:
> Try put up with Opera's support for projection and PrinceXML's support
> for CSS print.
> http://www.w3.org/TR/css-print/
> http://princexml.com/doc/7.0/
>
> Hopefully they'll be some suckless projects supporting these CSS
> features in the future. :)
suckless + xml
2009/9/2 Jakob :
> I use S5:
> http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/
Urgh, S5 is really heavyweight.
Try put up with Opera's support for projection and PrinceXML's support
for CSS print.
http://www.w3.org/TR/css-print/
http://princexml.com/doc/7.0/
Hopefully they'll be some suckless projects supp
2009/9/2 :
>> I recommend type setting using HTML.
I second this: HTML, then a conversion to pdf.
> HTML is useless for document typesetting for a number of reasons:
> ...
> -- Browsers are incapable of hyphenating words, justified text has massive
> gaps in it.
The html-to-pdf converter Prince
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:56 PM, QUINTIN
Guillaume wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Do you guys know a (working) typesetting system other than latex ?
> And a good soft to make presentations ?
A key point is: do you need to typeset complicated mathematical
expressions? I'm not aware of anything that has such good
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 01:56:38PM +0200, QUINTIN Guillaume wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Do you guys know a (working) typesetting system other than latex ?
> And a good soft to make presentations ?
>
> Thanks.
>
What's wrong with latex?
--
Jake Todd
// If it isn't broke, tweak it!
pgpxTIA7OAgIv.pgp
Descr
On Sep 02 2009 (Wed, 14:04), Sebastian Stark wrote:
>
> On 02.09.2009, at 13:56, QUINTIN Guillaume wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Do you guys know a (working) typesetting system other than latex ?
>
> troff is definitely working and different from latex. Don't know if it's
> useful for general typesetting.
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 01:56:38PM +0200, QUINTIN Guillaume wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Do you guys know a (working) typesetting system other than latex ?
After years of WYSIWIG and a good deal of Latex (and unconvincing
attemps at WYSIWIG Latex, i.e. Lyx, and useless Latex IDEs that bring
nothing over vim/
> I recommend type setting using HTML.
>
> For slideshows unfortunately only Opera properly supports the project
> media type.
>
>
> Here's an example:
> http://talks.webconverger.com/2009-02-14/
>
>
HTML is useless for document typesetting for a number of reasons:
-- Different browsers NEVER typ
QUINTIN Guillaume writes:
> latex-beamer gives me very strange results when I want to insert some
> graphics.
> I spent as much time on making latex works as writing my report.
> And latex-beamer is giving me as much pain.
[...]
> This does not work at all. The picture is cut, I don't know why
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 02:27:48PM +0200, QUINTIN Guillaume wrote:
> latex-beamer gives me very strange results when I want to insert some
> graphics.
> I spent as much time on making latex works as writing my report.
> And latex-beamer is giving me as much pain.
>
> \documentclass{beamer}
> \usep
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 01:41:34PM +0100, Kai Hendry wrote:
> For slideshows unfortunately only Opera properly supports the project
> media type.
I use S5:
http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/
Jakob
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 01:56:38PM +0200, QUINTIN Guillaume wrote:
> Do you guys know a (working) typesetting system other than latex ?
Nothing that compares, really -- at least, nothing free.
> And a good soft to make presentations ?
http://www.ngolde.de/tpp.html
On 9/2/09, QUINTIN Guillaume wrote:
> Do you guys know a (working) typesetting system other than latex ?
> And a good soft to make presentations ?
last time i looked into this i didn't find a satisfying solution,
anyway here is a list of possibilities:
http://port70.net/~nsz/15_text.html
Hi,
* QUINTIN Guillaume [2009-09-02 14:28]:
> latex-beamer gives me very strange results when I want to insert some
> graphics.
> [...]
> \begin{frame}
> \includegraphics[height=3in]{info.pdf}
> \end{frame}
> [...]
> This does not work at all. The picture is cut, I don't know why and is not
> di
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 01:56:38PM +0200, QUINTIN Guillaume wrote:
Do you guys know a (working) typesetting system other than latex ?
And a good soft to make presentations ?
Troff, Lout, Plain TeX, ConTeXt. I use Beamer for presentations.
--
Kris Maglione
The world is a tragedy to those who f
I recommend type setting using HTML.
For slideshows unfortunately only Opera properly supports the project
media type.
Here's an example:
http://talks.webconverger.com/2009-02-14/
latex-beamer gives me very strange results when I want to insert some
graphics.
I spent as much time on making latex works as writing my report.
And latex-beamer is giving me as much pain.
\documentclass{beamer}
\usepackage[french]{babel}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usetheme{Warsaw}
\title{blabl
halibut from the nasm people is quite good.
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/halibut/
so many years ago i wrote xml2doc (xml2doc.sf.net)
Antoni Grzymala wrote:
QUINTIN Guillaume dixit (2009-09-02, 13:56):
Do you guys know a (working) typesetting system other than latex ?
And a
QUINTIN Guillaume dixit (2009-09-02, 13:56):
> Do you guys know a (working) typesetting system other than latex ?
> And a good soft to make presentations ?
cl-typesetting is useful for a range of purposes. It's not as flexible
as latex, though. Don't know if there are any ready-made presentation
On 02.09.2009, at 13:56, QUINTIN Guillaume wrote:
Hi,
Do you guys know a (working) typesetting system other than latex ?
troff is definitely working and different from latex. Don't know if
it's useful for general typesetting. There people who use it:
http://docs.freebsd.org/44doc/usd/19
Hi,
Do you guys know a (working) typesetting system other than latex ?
And a good soft to make presentations ?
Thanks.
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