S. R. Gal said:
> Is there an advantage of sh -c as oposed to double quotes?
Looks like opposite is true - with double quotes you'll get one process
less.
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S. R. Gal said:
> 1. what would be st syntax for xterm -e 'tmux a -d || tmux'?
st -e sh -c 'tmux a -d || tmux'
> 2. what font st uses when there is no glyph in the default one?
Whatever system provides?
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Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe said:
> Doesn't this imply a DBus dependency?
AFAIR WebkitGtk itself depends on DBUS since inception.
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scheme taste? Should be separete binaries
> the only option?
Yes. You can have your dwm with colors you like most in ~/bin/dwm.
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e a point - this idea would sound awesome to some GNU folks.
I bet autoconf people would absolutely love it.
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that suck so much that it is not suckless any
more.
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o the mix - gtk2 webkit fails on
several "web applications" I am forced to use - and then porting effort
won't be trivial any more.
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on.
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7heo said:
> Package management is none of suckless's concern.
Not in case of package that has a metric fucktone of dependencies.
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7heo said:
> I don't get how that is a problem. Versions don't have a 1:1 mapping
> to any mathematical function taking SLOCs as input, do they?
If you are done with pretending to be clueless, can we just assume that
versions have something to do with package management?
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Hi!
There have been more then 2 years since 0.6 surf release (2013-02-10).
Maybe it is time for 0.7?
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| lynx -stdin
I didn't look into their code, but they use cmake, which suggests that
they may do other things wrong as well.
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Nick said:
> Is - as a stdin/stdout file actually used many places? Because it
> seems awfully weird to do:
>
> zcat < a.tar.gz | tar -t -f -
>
> rather than
>
> zcat < a.tar.gz | tar -t
On OpenBSD without "-f" tar opens /dev/rst0 or whatever TAPE is set to.
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o another framework for client-server applications, and ended up
becoming an overengineered replacement for X11.
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is unlikely to happen any time soon.
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Markus Teich said:
> The really long term solution would imho be to establish web standards
> which forbid such identifying information leakage by default.
Good luck with that. Write back once you establish such a standard.
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not even a
reliable one.
FWIW the "Web" is too broken for an easy workable solution.
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Jeroen Op 't Eynde said:
> Can anyone confirm or deny that it works on their machine?
Works for me on OpenBSD and Archlinux.
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Jeroen Op 't Eynde said:
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
> wrote:
> > What about other webkit-based browsers? Do you have the same issue
> > with them?
>
> I've tried some of Google Sheets in Midori in a Virtualbox here
The idea
ect (evaluating 'imb.open')
What about other webkit-based browsers? Do you have the same issue
with them?
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FRIGN said:
> Or gcc(1), "generate cool columns".
This.
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Rian Hunter said:
> In many cases it would be simpler to have a single program.
Looks like you are in a wrong crowd.
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Wander Nauta said:
> https://i.imgur.com/kXY1jQX.png
Don't think it is st's fault.
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Dimitris Papastamos said:
> We might want to consider defaulting to -A for root.
Wouldn't it be awkward? I would leave that to users - shell aliases do
the trick better then "one fits all" approach IMO.
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k...@shike2.com said:
> I agree here, it shouldn't modiy the CLIPBOARD seletction. Sometime
> is good to have different things in both selections. If nobady claims
> about it I will apply your patch.
FWIW I would prefer to have selected text in both selections.
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Greg Reagle said:
> - selecting but with no explicit copy should only set PRIMARY,
>never CLIPBOARD
FWIW in suckless context selecting _is_ explicit copy.
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del agnostic but the key combinations would
> change
> with the layout.
I'm all for keycodes, - all users of multiple layouts I know pass much
more time in one layout. Ideally, there should be an include file with
macros, so that users could reassign keycodes.
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;А", "Z" and "З", etc.) are on the same keys. So technically I
don't have a problem of symbols rotation when I switch layouts.
That said, I'd love to have Ctrl-з to be equivalent to Ctrl-z. But I am
not sure whether I would tolerate any additional complexity as a
trade-off.
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ally good.
These were the times when CSS was only starting to surface, and GTK+1
was still used a lot. It's a pitty they don't keep up with web
"standards".
¹ http://www.dillo.org/Plans.html
² http://hg.dillo.org/dillo/raw-file/tip/ChangeLog
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Marc Weber said:
> also have a look at: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servo_(Software)
Servo appears to suck a lot. They appear to focus on improving
performance by spawning endless threads (complexity), and they require
specific custom version of compiler (quirkiness).
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our problem is with missing font metadata. See
mkfontscale(1) and mkfontdir(1) for details. Alternatively, you may
have your font path wrong; see xset(1). But utf-8 has definitely
nothing to do with your issue.
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FRIGN said:
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 02:52:09 +0100
> "Dmitrij D. Czarkoff" wrote:
>
> > > +#define UPPER "A-Z"
> > > +#define LOWER "a-z"
> > > +#define PUNCT "!\"#$%&'()*+,-./:;<=>?@[\\]^_`{|}~"
> &
FRIGN said:
> +#define UPPER "A-Z"
> +#define LOWER "a-z"
> +#define PUNCT "!\"#$%&'()*+,-./:;<=>?@[\\]^_`{|}~"
These definitions hugely misrepresent corresponding character classes.
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ments on this?
If prompt is shown, it would be nice to have an option to abort download
at this point. Otherwise every flash ad gets downloaded without any
sort of confirmation.
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sta...@cs.tu-berlin.de said:
> how is searching in tabbed windows different from (better than)
> searching in monocle windows, could you please elaborate?
In tabbed you see titles of all tabs, in monocle view - only the title
of the current window.
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ection and not X11 clipboard. You can use middle mouse button
(wheel) to paste. Otherwise you need a tool like parcellite¹, or you
can edit surf's source to make use of X11 clipboard.
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¹ http://parcellite.sourceforge.net/
FRIGN said:
> This is just wrong. Or do you expect people to dig
> in the code to change the colours?
No.
Dmitrij D. Czarkoff said:
> diff --git a/config.mk b/config.mk
...
> # On *BSD remove -DHAVE_SHADOW_H from CPPFLAGS and add -DHAVE_BSD_AUTH
> # On OpenBSD and Darwin remo
>From 8cbd13d15492fb428b08fb2e298be2cada224e07 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: "Dmitrij D. Czarkoff"
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 11:05:28 +0100
Subject: [PATCH 1/2] Remove .hgtags
---
.hgtags | 10 --
1 file changed, 10 deletions(-)
delete mode 100644 .hgtags
diff --git a/.hgt
>From eb5d7870f800a201b23c5e96c4a2b2fac9848b80 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: "Dmitrij D. Czarkoff"
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 11:08:12 +0100
Subject: [PATCH 2/2] Decouple build system from program settings
---
config.mk | 3 ++-
slock.c | 4 +++-
2 files changed, 5 insertions(+)
Anselm R Garbe said:
> I will create a formal release tonight.
Thanks!
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. Czarkoff
s it is mostly complete C99 compiler. I
tried it quite a while ago, and it did fairly well with suckless
projects. It had no support for GNU extentions though.
I believe it is not actively developed for several years, and it seems
to have lost its momentum.
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¹ http://pcc.ludd.ltu.se/
y.
Updating software is another good argument for a large binary package
library. Updating xorg manually tends to be painful.
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ause
their goal is to be suckless, which implies not including software that
sucks too much. If your choice of software would correspond to that of
sabotage/Morpheus/sta.li developers, you could easily contribute back
packages for those few tools you would be missing.
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.
Which of these aren't available on OpenBSD in your opinion?
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pancake said:
> oh. that's why ldd was telling me that there was no glib
>
> --with-internal-glibuse internal glib
Nice they didn't bundle glibc and linux kernel as well.
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ds
replacement takes long, I gather that such suckless pkg-config should
happen. More so if it can replace tools that suck even more, like
GNU autocrap.
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lementation, which is not
suckless (~900 lines of Perl), but it does not depend on glib.
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FRIGN said:
> We could discuss install, but there's nothing suckless about pkgconfig.
What is wrong with pkg-config?
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Johan Guldmyr said:
> Output: https://pastee.org/35jas
You should try building it with "-g" in CFLAGS.
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Quentin Rameau said:
> Here is a little patch for enabling DNS prefetching in surf via config.h
Why?
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sad if it was unsafe for
> the
> clueless user.
> Or both.
Tcl/Tk.
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tags, and (3) required UTF-8.
P.P.S.: Same applies to CSS. Several tricks could make it suck times
less. JavaScript can't be fixed though.
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formed document with warning.
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may be used for HTML5, and that browser should not render document
that failed UTF-8 validation.
If UTF-8 ever becomes inadequate for some reason, there should be HTML6
(or whatever next number will be then), that states the next sane
encoding.
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ck to Lynx soon. While it sucks, it does so
much less then most GUI alternatives.
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s unaware of are already replaced with U+FFFD. If libc doesn't know
U+FFFD either, there will be enough problems running st that adding
workarounds for that case will not make sense.
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Helpful when new Unicode codepoints are not recognized by libc.
---
st.c | 5 -
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/st.c b/st.c
index 23dd7f1..ad52280 100644
--- a/st.c
+++ b/st.c
@@ -2576,7 +2576,10 @@ tputc(char *c, int len) {
unicodep = ascii = *c;
well, so the "abs()" hack won't
work.
IMO ideally st should either not print characters whose codepoints are
unknown to libc, or should silently replace them with U+FFFD. At any
rate, assumptions about codepoints' properties are not st's business.
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Hiltjo Posthuma said:
> interestingly musl knows the correct character width.
Apparently no workaround is needed - just use sane libc or avoid using
new codepoints until glibc fixes that. Or, if you won't feel dirty
after that, send a patch to glibc instead.
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uot; utility.
srw[1] apparently does that.
[1] http://bitbucket.org/emg/srw
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compress
Bzip2 and xz-utils are merely most popular. Bzip2 was patent-free
compression tools with best ratio for quite some time, and xz-utils most
likely owe to popularity of 7-zip on Windows. (AFAIK it is also the
tool providing the best compression ratio on UNIX now.)
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nd OpenBSD don't have it. I am not
sure whether this allows to say that ".txz" tarballs are not a norm yet.
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Ralph Eastwood said:
> Although the norm changes - if 'compress' wasn't patent encumbered, I guess
> there would be wide support for it still.
And there is. Check "-Z" option in the manual of you tar.
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sucks.
Aren't tarballs supposed to be lingua franca of data storage?
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uot;vie" option, although "svi" also appears to be
available (according to OpenBSD ports at least).
[1] http://harmful.cat-v.org/cat-v/unix_prog_design.pdf
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still depends on GTK2 flavor of WebKit. Any status update?
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Andrew Gwozdziewycz said:
> Arch is pretty good, has great documentation and is quite lightweight.
The most suckless aspect of Arch is nearly undisposable systemd, I
believe.
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ms for signaling which of the two is in
| use, or for bringing other encodings into play, are discussed later,
| in 4.3.3 Character Encoding in Entities.
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Truls Becken said:
> There is also the pic preprocessor for troff.
IMO suffer from the same issue: OK for its domain, but somehow
inappropriate elsewhere.
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78...@web.de said:
> What's wrong with MetaPost?
> http://ect.bell-labs.com/who/hobby/MetaPost.html
Dependencies. It is OK for use in TeX, but for vector graphics alone
it's an overkill.
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trij D. Czarkoff
eed to rely on xdg-open any more.
BTW, what is wrong with just using st & dmenu for this stuff?
> Wow! And you complain about the "danger" of my `-escaped
> shell-parameter.
I didn't. I complained about custom format in place of standard
mailcap.
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patrick295767 patrick295767 said:
> One can retrieve the link and send it over mplayer on nix, vlc,... and
> any win32 apps as well.
quvi dump -b mute -e "ffplay %u" $URL
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Robert Figura said:
> A little more than two years ago i started coding some plumberlike in
> gawk, and i think it's time for me to seek suggestions and share what
Why not POSIX awk?
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, this is the way to work around the issue. Still, moving
configuration of program X to configuration file of program Y feels like
bad taste to me.
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http-helper.sh:
-
x27;t need to
define. I expect that if I would be using soap, it would end up being
the most frequently compiled software on my system. This is an easy
shot, given that your design suggests hardcoding URLs, which, given the
nature of modern web, would lead to very frequent changes.
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onfiguration format for soap. Or at least extend it to support
whatever you want to support.
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> /tmp/tmp.gif" },
> { "^(http://|https://)?(www\.)?(youtube.com/watch\?|youtu\.be/)",
> "youtube-viewer %s" }
>
> where %s is the _shell-escaped_ argument given to xdg-open.
Am I missing something, or mailcap files already do that?
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Bigby James said:
> On 04/09, hiro wrote:
Please, don't feed trolls.
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nfortunately, http://tox.im appears to be unreachable, so I can't
comment on protocol itself yet.
[0] http://www.creytiv.com/baresip.html
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d to see whether they have the symbols you need.
FWIW I just can't believe you don't have dejavu fonts - they appear to
be included basicly with every Unix-like system these days.
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7;binmode(STDOUT, ":encoding(UTF-8)"); say "\N{HEAVY BLACK HEART}"'
> | dmenu
>
> Anyone have tips on making this work? Thanks!
Just choose proper font, eg.:
perl -E'binmode(STDOUT, ":encoding(UTF-8)"); say "\N{HEAVY BLACK HEART}"' |
dmenu -fn "-*-dejavu sans mono-medium-r-normal-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1"
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t compatibility, which
is almost directly opposite concept to innovation.
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tively the only good cases for screencasts I've seen to
date are video games and Metro UI.
> Anyway, there is room for both mediums.
Suckless software workflow is much easier to describe in plain text. If
there is any room for screencasting, it definitely isn't here.
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LE=`mktemp -p /tmp toread.XX`
{xclip -o && echo; cat doc/toread} > $TMPFILE
mv $TMPFILE doc/toread
and then after selecting URL in address bar you could just run this
script (eg. via "Ctrl+p" in dwm).
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followed
> > by a slash (./) it is interpreted a relative path.
Actually it is exactly as is stated:
if (name[0] == '.' || name[0] == '/') {
strncpy(sockaddr.sun_path, name, maxlen);
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Charlie Kester said:
> (As, for example, epub vs pdf.)
These formats serve different functions. It would be more fair to
compare PDF to PS and ePub to roff respectively.
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y fact that there
is something left for browser to decide is already complete and utter
defeat for the whole markup language.
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serve me the basis for educated guess).
This alone is sufficient for me to be all for simplistic strict parser
with zero fault tollerance.
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ntributed patches are under the license of
software they are intended to be applied to. Eg. patches for surf are
under whatever license surf is.
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re is some
single location of settings somewhere in ports infrastructure itself, a
user-editable configuration file (I expect Anselm would replace those
with one config.mk) and individual ports that need some specific flags
override the config values in their makefiles.
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erface to things that already suck big time.
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Markus Teich wrote:
>Heyho,
>
>this morning I wondered how to open a file from the filesystem in surf,
>but
>neither "file://" nor "file:///" did work. Is it even possible?
>Thanks.
>
>--Markus
"file:///home/user/example.html" works for me.
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Troels Henriksen said:
> You really shouldn't write terminal programs that require precise
> colours.
FWIW as a rule you really shouldn't write terminal programs that use
colours.
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l amount of RAM, particularly if
all squeezed into initramfs.
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easy with Gentoo, Arch or whatever remains
more or less simple these days.
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t quite some time into it - and all
of it goes into compensating the "improvements" in boot process. And I still
can't see any benefit from the switch.
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u're not replying to.
You probably didn't use Gmail for a while - they now collapse quotes,
and AFAIR don't allow typing below them.
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ing to do with being lazy - it is
just showing disrespect to others.
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