Teodoro Santoni said:
> Good evening,
>
> I'm not replying to anyone, I need a starting point to avoid demotivation for
> speculating on this problem.
> So, you guys wanna get your feet in lava while your hands swim in shit.
> Is there something that does what, at the core, (X)HTML v.X does, with
Anthony J. Bentley said:
> Does grep abort upon encountering invalid UTF-8 sequences in a file? No.
Grep's syntax is not in file input, it is in search strings. So yes,
grep always aborts encountering invalid syntax.
> Does troff abort rendering on invalid macro usage? Practically never.
Troff
Good evening,
I'm not replying to anyone, I need a starting point to avoid demotivation for
speculating on this problem.
So, you guys wanna get your feet in lava while your hands swim in shit.
Is there something that does what, at the core, (X)HTML v.X does, without
being that shitty?
A document
Exactly,
a C rewrite will be done, I just didn't have any more time. (time to
go trick or treating!) [0]
It reeks of stupid OOP when it doesn't need it at all
Calvin
[0] http://imgur.com/k0zhqNv
On 31 October 2014 17:21, Dimitris Papastamos wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 04:53:28PM -0400, C
"Dmitrij D. Czarkoff" writes:
> Sorry for replying to single message with two.
>
> Anthony J. Bentley said:
> > HTML5 has been some steps forward and some steps back. But one of the
> > unambiguously good things they did was drop any pretense of SGML
> > compatibility, and introduce well‐defined e
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 04:53:28PM -0400, Calvin Morrison wrote:
> hi,
>
> I just released fsbm [0] a small bandwidth monitor
>
> i rewrote cbm, a bandwidth meter to output to stdout instead of
> writing out to curses. I find this to be more more palatable and I can
> use it with i3 or whatever s
On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 16:53:28 -0400
Calvin Morrison wrote:
> I just released fsbm [0] a small bandwidth monitor
>
> i rewrote cbm, a bandwidth meter to output to stdout instead of
> writing out to curses. I find this to be more more palatable and I can
> use it with i3 or whatever status bar syst
Sorry for replying to single message with two.
Anthony J. Bentley said:
> HTML5 has been some steps forward and some steps back. But one of the
> unambiguously good things they did was drop any pretense of SGML
> compatibility, and introduce well‐defined error handling rules (instead
> of the XML
hi,
I just released fsbm [0] a small bandwidth monitor
i rewrote cbm, a bandwidth meter to output to stdout instead of
writing out to curses. I find this to be more more palatable and I can
use it with i3 or whatever status bar system I want. the code still
sucks, but i only just hacked out the c
Anthony J. Bentley said:
> The sane place is the HTTP header. Well, saner would be to assume UTF-8
> by default, but this is the next best option.
No. There is only one sane place for stating encoding: the bloody
standard. It should unambiguously require that no other encoding then
UTF-8 may be
'Evening,
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 05:10:33PM +0100, FRIGN wrote:> Given how successful my
kickstarter[0] was for hiring an assassin on
> Lennart Poettering (raised 300k of initially 50k), I think it should be
> feasible. With the extra-money, the perk on Richard Stallman was activated.
>
> Cheer
As I see it, modern web consists of several distinct things, that are
only loosely coupled together, mostly by being accessible via the same
technology:
* Social networks. I personally still fail to see any value in these
tools, so can't suggest anything here.
* Content delivery (newspapers an
On 31/10/2014 20:45, FRIGN wrote:
Yeah, but I want the XML parser.
I supposed so, but since you referred to (X)HTML, I was unsure.
I'd say it's hard to suck less than that as far as HTML goes...
Well, look at what XHTML 2.0 tried to achieve (it was a step in the
right direction). I'll never
FRIGN writes:
> On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 20:04:58 +0100
> Alexandre Niveau wrote:
> >
> >
> > Page title
> > Hello world
>
> This is not valid XHTML.
Then that’s XHTML’s deficiency. This has been valid HTML (except the
doctype) for over 15 years. There’s no ambiguity either; all XML would
do is add
On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 20:04:58 +0100
Alexandre Niveau wrote:
> I'm probably missing something here, but specifically the HTML
> boilerplate *did* become drastically simpler in the last few years.
> Now [1] an HTML5 page is just supposed to be:
>
>
>
>
>
> Page title
>
>
>
Well there are certainly two types of websites,
Applications, IE open for hours, has many pages that are linked
together, like Facebook, Gmail, etc
then there is more of the 'content' sites, where each page stands on
it's own just fine, like a news website.
For portability, use what you've got.
Hey,
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Ralph Eastwood wrote:
>
> Here are my uses (if your uses are significantly different or if I
> have missed something, please reply!):
>
> Browsing
> - for software (github, sourceforge, etc.)
> - for news
> - random humour
> - academic journals/articles
>
>
What happened to running Dis on a Javascript platform or running drawterm
on HTML5/JS?
Right now if you started to program sane applications in A sane langauge,
making display and use easy, then just have it run over draw, why wouldn't
that achieve what you guys want?
On 31 October 2014 15:
On 31/10/2014 16:48, FRIGN wrote:
To put it simply, what has the W3C been doing all these past years?
Right! Stacking more and more stuff on top of what was there. However,
writing (X)HTML hasn't become simpler in any way!
Or who can possibly remember this every time he writes a new page:
http
(Pulling in an old message across the subject change. Hopefully I got it right.)
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Daniel Camolês wrote:
> Breaking compatibility would be essential.
Let's pretend we could do it. Would you break compatibility once and
then fix everything and then try again to be c
On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:01:54 +0100
Martti Kühne wrote:
> How quickly do you think you can do that? This sounds just too good to
> be true...
Given how successful my kickstarter[0] was for hiring an assassin on
Lennart Poettering (raised 300k of initially 50k), I think it should be
feasible. With
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 4:48 PM, FRIGN wrote:
>
> Or we go the Stalin-way, kill all members of the W3C and dictate our own
> standards.
>
How quickly do you think you can do that? This sounds just too good to
be true...
cheers!
mar77i
On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 15:31:44 +0100
Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote:
> This is what this discussion boils down too. The web is too big to be
> changed with new established cultures.
Yup.
>
> In the sense of the communist movement and the suckless interpretation
> don’t go the hard w
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 03:31:44PM +0100, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
> What's needed for the next steps:
> * Someone who knows any of the popular web rendering engines very well
> and can modify them without ending up in psychiatry.
Game over. There are only 2.5 "popular" and "usuable" open sou
Greetings.
On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 15:31:44 +0100 Ralph Eastwood
wrote:
> Hopefully my discussion/argument makes sense - a friend of mine told
> me that the idea sounded like imposing a Communist regime on the
> masses :)
This is what this discussion boils down too. The web is too big to be
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