Hi Marcus
On 09/11/2021 23:48, Marcus wrote:
> However, I'm curious to know what you mean with "... why moderators
> should hold any more of an exclusive or covert role within the ASF ..."
> and why you think there is something secret?
The answer to that "baited" question is: Everybody with any k
> I upgraded our M1 machine now to macOS Monterey 12.0.1.
> AOO 4.1.11 works without problems so far (only basic tests).
Did you use Rosetta 2 or this works directly?
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Hi Jörg,
we know that you have another point of view regarding facts than some
other participants of this list.
You should accept that nearly noone wants to discuss that in extenso
because iz is totally useless.
We don't need more quarrels, so please stopp your blaming.
Kind regards
Michae
Hi,
Am 10.11.21 um 11:48 schrieb Bidouille:
>> I upgraded our M1 machine now to macOS Monterey 12.0.1.
>> AOO 4.1.11 works without problems so far (only basic tests).
> Did you use Rosetta 2 or this works directly?
Since AOO for macOS is built for Intel and the M1 is an ARM chip it is
automatical
Hi Jim,
Am 09.11.21 um 21:50 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> I've recently folded in openssl-1.1 to trunk and all branches, but this gets
> us in a corner.
>
> To support this version of openssl, we need to upgrade Serf. This means that
> we need to also update apr and apr-util as well as include a req
Yeah... I'm not sure which is the bigger effort: All the required
serf/apr/scons upgrade or the Curl one.
For 4.1.X it's much more a big deal, because we support such ancient OSs. For
4.2.x and trunk, not so much.
> On Nov 10, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Matthias Seidel
> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> Am 0
Am 10.11.21 um 16:51 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> Yeah... I'm not sure which is the bigger effort: All the required
> serf/apr/scons upgrade or the Curl one.
Some time ago the maintainer of Serf offered us help. I also think he
wanted to move away from Scons in the next build.
Meanwhile, I found thi
Ugg ugg and double ugg
We seem to be stuck in a chicken-and-egg situation.
Do we *really* need OpenSSL 1.1? Because even the latest release of serf
doesn't really support that.
What is the issue w/ using OpenSSL 1.0.2 that is driving us to OpenSSL 1.1?
PS: OpenSSL is universally, IMO, becoming
Am 10.11.21 um 18:05 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> Ugg ugg and double ugg
>
> We seem to be stuck in a chicken-and-egg situation.
>
> Do we *really* need OpenSSL 1.1? Because even the latest release of serf
> doesn't really support that.
>
> What is the issue w/ using OpenSSL 1.0.2 that is driving us t
Hello Michael,
> -Original Message-
> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 2:00 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?
>
> Hi Jörg,
>
> we know that you have ano
Hi Michael,
"another point of view regarding facts"
In the old times a liar was just called a liar... ;-)
Regards,
Matthias
Am 10.11.21 um 14:00 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann:
> Hi Jörg,
>
> we know that you have another point of view regarding facts than some
> other participants of this li
Am 10.11.21 um 05:25 schrieb Dave Fisher:
On Nov 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Marcus wrote:
Am 07.11.21 um 21:18 schrieb Dave:
On 07/11/2021 19:42, Dave Fisher wrote:
Sorry to put it this way Dave, but this is the same answer that I have
had received from you and other PMC members previously.
If you
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthias Seidel [mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 6:33 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> "another point of view regarding facts"
>
> In t
OK but some end-users on french forum ask if AOO is full-compatible with M1
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> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Envoyé: Mercredi 10 Novembre 2021 16:30:26
> Objet: Re: macOS Monterey
>
> Hi,
>
> Am 10.11.21 um 11:48 schrieb Bidouille:
> >> I upgrad
Am 10.11.21 um 11:36 schrieb Dave Barton:
On 09/11/2021 23:48, Marcus wrote:
However, I'm curious to know what you mean with "... why moderators
should hold any more of an exclusive or covert role within the ASF ..."
and why you think there is something secret?
The answer to that "baited" ques
Am 10.11.21 um 18:52 schrieb Bidouille:
> OK but some end-users on french forum ask if AOO is full-compatible with M1
What is the definition of "full-compatible"?
If they want a native ARM build, that would be a *major* task.
If they want to help, just forward them to dev@.
But, AOO (Intel) runs
Am 10.11.21 um 19:09 schrieb Bidouille:
>
>> If they want a native ARM build, that would be a *major* task.
> OK I understand
>
>> If they want to help, just forward them to dev@.
> End users stay end users.
No, I was an end user years ago... ;-)
>
>> But, AOO (Intel) runs perfectly on Apple M1
> If they want a native ARM build, that would be a *major* task.
OK I understand
> If they want to help, just forward them to dev@.
End users stay end users.
> But, AOO (Intel) runs perfectly on Apple M1.
This is still my answer
But be aware that many Mac users argue that LibO is already compa
To be honest, I think we are *stuck* with OpenSSL 1.0.2 until Serf is upgraded
to support 1.1
> On Nov 10, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Matthias Seidel
> wrote:
>
> Am 10.11.21 um 18:05 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> Ugg ugg and double ugg
>>
>> We seem to be stuck in a chicken-and-egg situation.
>>
>> Do
Am 10.11.21 um 19:19 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> To be honest, I think we are *stuck* with OpenSSL 1.0.2 until Serf is
> upgraded to support 1.1
Serf is an Apache project isn't it?
Should we ask for collaboration?
>
>
>> On Nov 10, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Matthias Seidel
>> wrote:
>>
>> Am 10.11.21 u
We could, but they are worse at releases than we are :-P
> On Nov 10, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Matthias Seidel
> wrote:
>
> Am 10.11.21 um 19:19 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> To be honest, I think we are *stuck* with OpenSSL 1.0.2 until Serf is
>> upgraded to support 1.1
>
> Serf is an Apache project is
Am 10.11.21 um 19:30 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> We could, but they are worse at releases than we are :-P
A problem that needs to be fixed... ;-)
BTW: I think you reverted one of my commits?
>
>> On Nov 10, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Matthias Seidel
>> wrote:
>>
>> Am 10.11.21 um 19:19 schrieb Jim Jagiels
marcus-aoo commented on pull request #59:
URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/pull/59#issuecomment-965629949
Thanks for for the change. For the moment I've committed it locally.
You may want to translate also some more tip texts in ".../fr/index2.html".
See lines 124 200, 205,
Am 10.11.21 um 18:38 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
A mailing list is not a lawless space!
But free speech is free speech - on mailing lists as anywhere else.
Who claims freedom of opinion has to bear contradiction.
Free speech has implications; sometimes it causes a lack of friends and
understanding
On 11/9/21 20:25, Dave Fisher wrote:
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On Nov 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Marcus wrote:
Am 07.11.21 um 21:18 schrieb Dave:
On 07/11/2021 19:42, Dave Fisher wrote:
Sorry to put it this way Dave, but this is the same answer that I have
had received from you and other PMC member
On 10/11/2021 21:28, Kay Schenk wrote:
> my thoughts
>
> Once upon a time, mailing list moderators were listed on the project
> page -- openoffice.apache.org -- along with the mailing lists. I see
> that this is no longer the case. It might be a good idea to list the
> moderators...but as Dav
jeanmicoste opened a new pull request #60:
URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/pull/60
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