We could, but they are worse at releases than we are :-P

> On Nov 10, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> 
> wrote:
> 
> Am 10.11.21 um 19:19 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> To be honest, I think we are *stuck* with OpenSSL 1.0.2 until Serf is 
>> upgraded to support 1.1
> 
> Serf is an Apache project isn't it?
> 
> Should we ask for collaboration?
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Am 10.11.21 um 18:05 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>> Ugg ugg and double ugg
>>>> 
>>>> We seem to be stuck in a chicken-and-egg situation.
>>>> 
>>>> Do we *really* need OpenSSL 1.1? Because even the latest release of serf 
>>>> doesn't really support that.
>>>> 
>>>> What is the issue w/ using OpenSSL 1.0.2 that is driving us to OpenSSL 1.1?
>>> The main problem is that Let's Encrypt root certificates expired at the
>>> end of October and OpenSSL 1.0.2 has problems with the new ones:
>>> 
>>> https://www.openssl.org/blog/blog/2021/09/13/LetsEncryptRootCertExpire/
>>> 
>>> For whatever reason it still works on Windows, but AOO on Linux and
>>> macOS cannot connect to our Update Feed and the extensions site anymore.
>>> 
>>> Workaround 3 (mentioned in the article) would be a possibility to fix
>>> that on the server side.
>>> 
>>>> PS: OpenSSL is universally, IMO, becoming a major PITA. I'm all for 
>>>> upgrades and keeping things fresh, but it seems like it is moving way too 
>>>> fast for its consumers.
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