Am 10.11.21 um 19:30 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> We could, but they are worse at releases than we are :-P

A problem that needs to be fixed... ;-)

BTW: I think you reverted one of my commits?

>
>> On Nov 10, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Am 10.11.21 um 19:19 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>> To be honest, I think we are *stuck* with OpenSSL 1.0.2 until Serf is 
>>> upgraded to support 1.1
>> Serf is an Apache project isn't it?
>>
>> Should we ask for collaboration?
>>
>>>
>>>> On Nov 10, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am 10.11.21 um 18:05 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>>> Ugg ugg and double ugg
>>>>>
>>>>> We seem to be stuck in a chicken-and-egg situation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do we *really* need OpenSSL 1.1? Because even the latest release of serf 
>>>>> doesn't really support that.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the issue w/ using OpenSSL 1.0.2 that is driving us to OpenSSL 
>>>>> 1.1?
>>>> The main problem is that Let's Encrypt root certificates expired at the
>>>> end of October and OpenSSL 1.0.2 has problems with the new ones:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.openssl.org/blog/blog/2021/09/13/LetsEncryptRootCertExpire/
>>>>
>>>> For whatever reason it still works on Windows, but AOO on Linux and
>>>> macOS cannot connect to our Update Feed and the extensions site anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Workaround 3 (mentioned in the article) would be a possibility to fix
>>>> that on the server side.
>>>>
>>>>> PS: OpenSSL is universally, IMO, becoming a major PITA. I'm all for 
>>>>> upgrades and keeping things fresh, but it seems like it is moving way too 
>>>>> fast for its consumers.
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