Re: [PROPOSAL] Rejecting "Quick Office Pro" messages

2014-12-03 Thread Peter Kelly
> On 3 Dec 2014, at 9:15 am, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > >> On 02 Dec2014, at 21:05, jonathon wrote: >> >> On 03/12/14 00:01, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: >> >>> The ® name for them is “Quickoffice®-Pro”. >> >> That is the name of the software. >> I've seen three or four different names for the

Re: Unofficial photos ApacheCon EU 2014

2014-11-23 Thread Peter Kelly
> On 23 Nov 2014, at 10:38 am, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > It's Louis on the right, Peter Kelly at the podium, Steve Hathaway (see > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Capstone_2013_Client_Requirements_Document ) > in the audience, and I think the hands on the left are Svante

Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-16 Thread Peter Kelly
-- Dennis E. Hamilton >dennis.hamil...@acm.org+1-206-779-9430 >https://keybase.io/orcmid PGP F96E 89FF D456 628A >X.509 certs used and requested for signed e-mail > > > > -Original Message- > From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] > Sent: Sa

Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-16 Thread Peter Kelly
On 16 Aug 2014, at 12:55 pm, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > I've also been fixing (or breaking, who knows!) some documentation on my > clone (my "fork" as Github likes to call it) but I'll submit a pull request > only when basic things work. I've just merged in your changes and also invited you as a

Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-15 Thread Peter Kelly
On 16 Aug 2014, at 5:26 am, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Does this mean that > $ dfutil/dfutil filename.docx filename.html > $ dfutil/dfutil filename.html filename2.docx > should produce a "filename2.docx" that is quite similar to "filename.docx"? > It is failing rather badly (invalid OOXML output i

Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-15 Thread Peter Kelly
On 16 Aug 2014, at 5:26 am, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 15/08/2014 Peter Kelly wrote: >> Those of you interested in OOXML may want to have a look at my own >> implementation of (a subset of) the spec, which is part of a library >> I've just made available as ope

DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-14 Thread Peter Kelly
Those of you interested in OOXML may want to have a look at my own implementation of (a subset of) the spec, which is part of a library I've just made available as open source (license is ASLv2): https://github.com/uxproductivity/DocFormats I started working on this around two years ago as part

Re: how can I get source code of openoffice using git?

2014-08-12 Thread Peter Kelly
On 13 Aug 2014, at 8:26 am, wpzhonghuan wrote: > I sorry to send this email to ask the method that getting the source code > using git, I have little idea about SVN. Hoping to get your reply. https://github.com/apache/openoffice -- Dr. Peter M. Kelly Founder, UX Productivity pe...@uxproductivi

Re: Why is it so hard to make a Java program appear native?

2014-08-11 Thread Peter Kelly
On 11 Aug 2014, at 3:14 pm, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 11/08/14 09:59, Peter Kelly wrote: >> An interesting discussion I came across today: >> >> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/08/why-is-it-so-hard-to-make-a-java-program-appear-native/ >> >&

Re: Why is it so hard to make a Java program appear native?

2014-08-11 Thread Peter Kelly
On 11 Aug 2014, at 3:42 pm, Andre Fischer wrote: >> Question: To what extent is the OO UI frontend code separate from the >> backend editing, file format handling, and rendering code? I'm thinking in >> particular here of mobile - which demands a completely different approach to >> user experi

Why is it so hard to make a Java program appear native?

2014-08-11 Thread Peter Kelly
An interesting discussion I came across today: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/08/why-is-it-so-hard-to-make-a-java-program-appear-native/ (and yes I realise OO doesn't use Java for it's UI, but the points raised apply to all cross-platform UI toolkits). Question: To what exte

Re: About debugging tokenizer of writerfilter

2014-08-08 Thread Peter Kelly
While I'm not familiar with the current filter implementation, the error you've run into does't look like it's the reason for your document not being processed correctly; the message indicates to me that it's not even getting to the point of being able to load the module necessary to do the conv

Re: OOXML

2014-08-04 Thread Peter Kelly
On 4 Aug 2014, at 12:16 am, jan i wrote: > By painfull experience, I found out that our internal (memory) structure is > a superset of mixed ODF and pre-odf items. I dont think you can have a pure > odf/OOXML memory structure, you need internal pointers as well (like > start/finish of copy buffer

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread Peter Kelly
On 3 Aug 2014, at 6:52 pm, Regina Henschel wrote: > Peter Kelly schrieb: >> There's two ways to view a format: (1) as a way of encoding information >> for storage or transmission, and (2) as an in-memory data structure used >> by the editor at runtime. In some progra

Change tracking & versioning (was Re: OOXML)

2014-08-03 Thread Peter Kelly
On 3 Aug 2014, at 3:05 am, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > In line with the sketch that Peter Kelley provides below, I am personally > very sympathetic to the idea of having an internal model that can tolerate > difference in format between input and output while preserving in the output > everyth

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread Peter Kelly
On 3 Aug 2014, at 3:05 am, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > In line with the sketch that Peter Kelley provides below, I am personally > very sympathetic to the idea of having an internal model that can tolerate > difference in format between input and output while preserving in the output > everyth

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread Peter Kelly
On 3 Aug 2014, at 1:57 am, jan i wrote: > I too am on peter fast rolling waggon :-) but I am also confused. > > @peter maybe you could explain a couple of things, for non-document > specialists: > > 1) Following your thought, with biderectional editors. Why would a editor > have a home format ?

Re: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread Peter Kelly
On 2 Aug 2014, at 9:24 pm, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > The Support that is done is to receieve OOXML not to produce them, the > discussion issue would be to support legacy formats like .doc or .xls. > > I still dont see a point to generate OOXML and most people dont care > as long as they can se

Re: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread Peter Kelly
On 1 Aug 2014, at 2:42 pm, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > For information: > http://www.themukt.com/2014/07/31/never-use-microsofts-ooxml-format/ An interesting article. This brings to mind a few issues I've been thinking about for a while: - I think the rather extreme anti-OOXML stance that some tak

OOXML documentation

2014-07-24 Thread Peter Kelly
Hi, I've begun writing up some documentation on the OOXML file format on the wiki: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/OOXML The new content is that linked to from the first section, currently limited to a description of the packaging format, extensibility features, and a brief introduction to Wo

Introducing myself

2014-07-09 Thread Peter Kelly
Hi everyone, I've been following OpenOffice and ODF's evolution for quite some time now, and am interested in getting involved in the community, as I think there's some areas I could contribute to. I've previously had many discussions about this with Louis Suárez-Potts, who suggested I introduc