Re: Pax not Pox

2013-01-22 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 21/01/2013 Xuacu wrote: As a person working in both sides (and feeling part of both communities), I couldn't agree more. Our approach is to tell our users «Hey, we are translating a lot of free software. Try it and see what fits your needs better... It's free!» I agree. And, actually, there

Re: [RELEASE]: release schedule/preparation and start voting for AOO 3.4.1 repin

2013-01-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > On 01/22/2013 01:41 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: >> >> Am 01/22/2013 09:06 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: >>> >>> our plan was to release AOO 3.4.1 on Jan. 24th. I think I have forgot to >>> start the necessary vote in time and plan to do this tomor

Re: Bug in AOO 3.4.1 on the Fedora 18

2013-01-22 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 09:38:39PM -0200, Albino Biasutti Neto wrote: > Hi > > 2013/1/22 Ariel Constenla-Haile : > > I don't have a fedora18 to test right now, but installing OpenOffice in > > fedora requires to blacklist LO. If you didn't so, then it might happen > > that your installation is bro

Re: Bug in AOO 3.4.1 on the Fedora 18

2013-01-22 Thread Kay Schenk
On 01/22/2013 03:38 PM, Albino Biasutti Neto wrote: Hi 2013/1/22 Ariel Constenla-Haile : I don't have a fedora18 to test right now, but installing OpenOffice in fedora requires to blacklist LO. If you didn't so, then it might happen that your installation is broken. The first command in fed

Re: [RELEASE]: release schedule/preparation and start voting for AOO 3.4.1 repin

2013-01-22 Thread Kay Schenk
On 01/22/2013 01:41 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 01/22/2013 09:06 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: our plan was to release AOO 3.4.1 on Jan. 24th. I think I have forgot to start the necessary vote in time and plan to do this tomorrow now. hmmm...for some reason, I didn't think we needed a vote on t

Re: RAT scans: Re: What rights are given in an SGA

2013-01-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > - Messaggio originale - > >> Da: Andrea Pescetti > >> >> Pedro Giffuni wrote: >>> It would be good to tun a RAT scan over the website. We have not done >>> anything to clean the content licensewise and we probably carry >>> copylef

Re: Bug in AOO 3.4.1 on the Fedora 18

2013-01-22 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto
Hi 2013/1/22 Ariel Constenla-Haile : > I don't have a fedora18 to test right now, but installing OpenOffice in > fedora requires to blacklist LO. If you didn't so, then it might happen > that your installation is broken. The first command in fedora 18 was yum remove libreoffice-* ;-) > Try runni

Re: Bug in AOO 3.4.1 on the Fedora 18

2013-01-22 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 03:49:15PM -0200, Albino Biasutti Neto wrote: > I am using Fedora 18 and AOO 3.4.1 > > Realizing that the AOO is crashing to do several things: word of > correction, close the page, open the AOO own. > > That's just me or a bug to be fixed? I don't have a fedora18 to test

Re: RAT scans: Re: What rights are given in an SGA

2013-01-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
- Messaggio originale - > Da: Andrea Pescetti  > > Pedro Giffuni wrote: >> It would be good to tun a RAT scan over the website. We have not done >> anything to clean the content licensewise and we probably carry >> copyleft content, including code, there! > > The website contains gig

Re: [RELEASE]: release schedule/preparation and start voting for AOO 3.4.1 repin

2013-01-22 Thread Juergen Schmidt
Am Dienstag, 22. Januar 2013 um 23:05 schrieb Andrea Pescetti: > Marcus (OOo) wrote: > > Am 01/22/2013 09:06 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: > > > 7. adapt the update mechansim to support the new languages > > > > ... and make sure to exclude "hu" as it's already available. > > > > > This sh

Re: How to make money with Apache OpenOffice (proposed blog post)

2013-01-22 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 21/01/2013 Rob Weir wrote: If anyone is uncomfortable with this I can do it on my personal blog, of course. But it is relevant to the AOO project, so I'd prefer to put it here. I see no reasons to avoid this topic. But the post would actually be more credible, and enjoyable, if we actually

Re: Merging Lotus Symphony: Allegro moderato

2013-01-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Fabrizio Marchesano wrote: > The kind of post I would have liked to have written myself: brilliant, > informative and entertaining as well. Thanks for the kind words! -Rob > It brought to my memory the statement of the harpsichordist Wanda > Lansdowska about Moz

Re: [RELEASE]: release schedule/preparation and start voting for AOO 3.4.1 repin

2013-01-22 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 01/22/2013 09:06 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: 7. adapt the update mechansim to support the new languages ... and make sure to exclude "hu" as it's already available. This should be automatic. If I recall correctly, the update mechanism just returns an XML file (do we ha

Re: [RELEASE]: release schedule/preparation and start voting for AOO 3.4.1 repin

2013-01-22 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 01/22/2013 09:06 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: our plan was to release AOO 3.4.1 on Jan. 24th. I think I have forgot to start the necessary vote in time and plan to do this tomorrow now. According to this plan think of the following release plan to vote, make the bits available, prepare announce

Re: Possible broken link: other

2013-01-22 Thread jdaniel.alvaro
It is possible that you are using windows, there is a tab that say open and you can select a option. On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Rolf Apelqvist wrote: > I can´t open my document in Writing > rolf.apelqv...@comhem.se

Re: Extension Site down?

2013-01-22 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto
Hi 2013/1/21 Raphael Bircher : > Is the Extension site down for maintenance or is there an other problem? No. extensions.openoffice.org Albino

Re: Interested in writing documentation

2013-01-22 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto
Hi 2013/1/22 Rakesh Thakoordyal : > I'd like to join the Apache organization writing documentation for the Open > Office suite, or other Apache products. In my day job I write developer's > documentation, use cases, step-wise instructions, respond to questions from > users, and maintain an int

Re: [RELEASE]: release schedule/preparation and start voting for AOO 3.4.1 repin

2013-01-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > Hi, > > our plan was to release AOO 3.4.1 on Jan. 24th. I think I have forgot to > start the necessary vote in time and plan to do this tomorrow now. > According to this plan think of the following release plan to vote, make > the bits avail

Re: [RELEASE]: release schedule/preparation and start voting for AOO 3.4.1 repin

2013-01-22 Thread janI
On 22 January 2013 21:06, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > Hi, > > our plan was to release AOO 3.4.1 on Jan. 24th. I think I have forgot to > start the necessary vote in time and plan to do this tomorrow now. > According to this plan think of the following release plan to vote, make > the bits available,

Re: Interested in writing documentation

2013-01-22 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Rakesh Thakoordyal wrote: Hello, I'd like to join the Apache organization writing documentation for the Open Office suite, or other Apache products. In my day job I write developer's documentation, use cases, step-wise instructions, respond to questions from users, and maintain an internal wi

[RELEASE]: release schedule/preparation and start voting for AOO 3.4.1 repin

2013-01-22 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi, our plan was to release AOO 3.4.1 on Jan. 24th. I think I have forgot to start the necessary vote in time and plan to do this tomorrow now. According to this plan think of the following release plan to vote, make the bits available, prepare announcements, prepare the download page (update for

Re: RAT scans: Re: What rights are given in an SGA

2013-01-22 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 22, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Pedro Giffuni wrote: >> It would be good to tun a RAT scan over the website. We have not done >> anything to clean the content licensewise and we probably carry >> copyleft content, including code, there! > > The website contains gigabytes o

Re: Possible broken link: other

2013-01-22 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:53:55 +0100 Rolf Apelqvist wrote: > I can´t open my document in Writing > rolf.apelqv...@comhem.se What does it say? What operating system are you using? -- Rory O'Farrell

Re: RAT scans: Re: What rights are given in an SGA

2013-01-22 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Pedro Giffuni wrote: It would be good to tun a RAT scan over the website. We have not done anything to clean the content licensewise and we probably carry copyleft content, including code, there! The website contains gigabytes of materials for which we are probably unable to trace detailed his

Bug in AOO 3.4.1 on the Fedora 18

2013-01-22 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto
I am using Fedora 18 and AOO 3.4.1 Realizing that the AOO is crashing to do several things: word of correction, close the page, open the AOO own. That's just me or a bug to be fixed? Albino

Re: OpenOffice on Wikipedia (was: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays)

2013-01-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Hi Rob; > > > - Messaggio originale - >> Da: Rob Weir > >> >> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> - Messaggio originale - Da: Rob Weir >>> ... https://plus.google.com/

Coverage of Symphony blog post

2013-01-22 Thread Rob Weir
Some coverage of the latest blog post on Symphony: (In German) http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/19363/symphony-verschmilzt-mit-openoffice.html http://www.golem.de/news/apache-openoffice-4-0-ibms-symphony-soll-openoffice-deutlich-besser-machen-1301-97058.html www.pro-linux.de/news/1/19363/symphony

Re: open office draw

2013-01-22 Thread Dave Barton
Original Message From: Kaili Williamson To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 06:28:52 -0800 (pst) > to whom it may concern, >i was just wondering if you could please help me...i am making a slideshow > in open office draw. i am trying to insert audio to play

Re: OpenOffice on Wikipedia (was: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays)

2013-01-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Rob; - Messaggio originale - > Da: Rob Weir  > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >> >> >> >> >> - Messaggio originale - >>> Da: Rob Weir >> ... >>> >>> https://plus.google.com/111502940353406919728/posts/3CUDTZoTsAp >>> >>> You wrote: >>> >>

Re: Extension Site down?

2013-01-22 Thread Roberto Galoppini
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Hi, > > Extensions is back, but not templates. Both sites are back now from few hours, guess if you don't see them up yet it's because of IP propagation. The problem was due to an IP change/VHOSTs configuration, I am really sorry for the inc

Re: publish-on-demand CDs?

2013-01-22 Thread Donald Whytock
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 1/22/13 3:52 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: >> Starting to see more requests for AOO CDs. Is there the equivalent of >> Lulu/CafePress for CDs/DVDs, such that they can be supplied with a >> current image and people purchase them at cost and

Re: OpenOffice on Wikipedia (was: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays)

2013-01-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > > > > - Messaggio originale - >> Da: Rob Weir > ... >> >> https://plus.google.com/111502940353406919728/posts/3CUDTZoTsAp >> >> You wrote: >> >> "OO is dead, LO is alive, switch immediately. >> >> The article sorta gets that across

Re: OpenOffice on Wikipedia (was: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays)

2013-01-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:45 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 22 January 2013 15:36, Rob Weir wrote: > >> So this does not suggest "good faith". In fact, it suggests a >> profound ignorance of the project and what we've been doing, as well >> as having an axe to grind. > > > An opinion is not the s

Re: publish-on-demand CDs?

2013-01-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Donald Whytock wrote: > Starting to see more requests for AOO CDs. Is there the equivalent of > Lulu/CafePress for CDs/DVDs, such that they can be supplied with a > current image and people purchase them at cost and get them mailed? > The coolest thing I saw in t

Re: OpenOffice on Wikipedia (was: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays)

2013-01-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
- Messaggio originale - > Da: Rob Weir  ... > > https://plus.google.com/111502940353406919728/posts/3CUDTZoTsAp > > You wrote: > > "OO is dead, LO is alive, switch immediately. > > The article sorta gets that across - read the history and LibreOffice > sections. Apache OpenOffice is

Re: OpenOffice on Wikipedia (was: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays)

2013-01-22 Thread David Gerard
On 22 January 2013 15:36, Rob Weir wrote: > So this does not suggest "good faith". In fact, it suggests a > profound ignorance of the project and what we've been doing, as well > as having an axe to grind. An opinion is not the same as a conflict of interest; I am of course open to persuasion.

Re: OpenOffice on Wikipedia (was: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays)

2013-01-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:21 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 22 January 2013 15:06, Rob Weir wrote: > > >> I'm not going to do this on your timing or your terms. > > > The other apposite Wikipedia policy page: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith > So I hope you'll assume

Re: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays

2013-01-22 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 22, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Jürgen Schmidt > wrote: >> On 1/22/13 3:59 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: >>> There was talk in the Talk of splitting the article, giving AOO its >>> own page and putting the project, along with its drama recap, on its

Re: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays

2013-01-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Saransh Sharma wrote: > Is there any difference in OOO and AOO > It was a product renaming. OpenOffice.org was the name used from 2000, when Sun initially made their StarOffice (acquired from StarDivision) product open source, until around December 2011 when we

Re: OpenOffice on Wikipedia (was: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays)

2013-01-22 Thread David Gerard
On 22 January 2013 15:06, Rob Weir wrote: > I'm not going to do this on your timing or your terms. The other apposite Wikipedia policy page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith (Compare: https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/draftlist-conduct-policy.html ) > A look at th

Re: Extension Site down?

2013-01-22 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi, Extensions is back, but not templates. I wonder what the trouble has been. Regards, Dave On Jan 21, 2013, at 11:27 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Rob Weir wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: >>> Is the Extension site down for maintenance or is there an other pro

Re: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays

2013-01-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 1/22/13 3:59 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: >> There was talk in the Talk of splitting the article, giving AOO its >> own page and putting the project, along with its drama recap, on its >> own. Maybe rather than an OO page, there can be a H

Re: OpenOffice on Wikipedia (was: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays)

2013-01-22 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 1/22/13 4:06 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:43 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> Rob Weir wrote: >> >>> Take a look at the lovely new page: >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice >>> Some choice bits of distortion: >> >> >> Thanks for publicising this. I really did mean I want

Re: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays

2013-01-22 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 1/22/13 3:59 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: > There was talk in the Talk of splitting the article, giving AOO its > own page and putting the project, along with its drama recap, on its > own. Maybe rather than an OO page, there can be a History of OO page? I hope not because AOO is OOO and even if

Re: OpenOffice on Wikipedia (was: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays)

2013-01-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:43 PM, David Gerard wrote: > Rob Weir wrote: > >>Take a look at the lovely new page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice >>Some choice bits of distortion: > > > Thanks for publicising this. I really did mean I wanted more eyes on it. > > Useful pages in dealing with

Re: publish-on-demand CDs?

2013-01-22 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 1/22/13 3:52 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: > Starting to see more requests for AOO CDs. Is there the equivalent of > Lulu/CafePress for CDs/DVDs, such that they can be supplied with a > current image and people purchase them at cost and get them mailed? > > Might reduce the whole sell-on-ebay than

Re: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays

2013-01-22 Thread Saransh Sharma
Is there any difference in OOO and AOO On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: > There was talk in the Talk of splitting the article, giving AOO its > own page and putting the project, along with its drama recap, on its > own. Maybe rather than an OO page, there can be a History

Re: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays

2013-01-22 Thread Donald Whytock
There was talk in the Talk of splitting the article, giving AOO its own page and putting the project, along with its drama recap, on its own. Maybe rather than an OO page, there can be a History of OO page? Though if there isn't an OO page it might start a redirect war... Don On Mon, Jan 21, 20

publish-on-demand CDs?

2013-01-22 Thread Donald Whytock
Starting to see more requests for AOO CDs. Is there the equivalent of Lulu/CafePress for CDs/DVDs, such that they can be supplied with a current image and people purchase them at cost and get them mailed? Might reduce the whole sell-on-ebay thang and ensure that people can safely buy a legitimate

Re: How to make money with Apache OpenOffice (proposed blog post)

2013-01-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:26 AM, Wolf Halton wrote: > sorry for the top-posting. > Android doesn't give me a lot of choice. > > My current employment is deploying opensource software for libraries, so I > am profiting modestly from developers' work that I didn't pay for, exept > when the company p

Re: Merging Lotus Symphony: Allegro moderato

2013-01-22 Thread Fabrizio Marchesano
The kind of post I would have liked to have written myself: brilliant, informative and entertaining as well. It brought to my memory the statement of the harpsichordist Wanda Lansdowska about Mozart's music: «Simplicity does not mean poverty, indigence and ignorance! [...] The works of Mozart are c

Interested in writing documentation

2013-01-22 Thread Rakesh Thakoordyal
Hello, I'd like to join the Apache organization writing documentation for the Open Office suite, or other Apache products.  In my day job I write developer's documentation, use cases, step-wise instructions, respond to questions from users, and maintain an internal wiki.  I'd like to build my o

Re: How to make money with Apache OpenOffice (proposed blog post)

2013-01-22 Thread Wolf Halton
sorry for the top-posting. Android doesn't give me a lot of choice. My current employment is deploying opensource software for libraries, so I am profiting modestly from developers' work that I didn't pay for, exept when the company pays one or another of them as a contractor to solve an issue we

Re: What rights are given in an SGA

2013-01-22 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Dave Fisher wrote: On Jan 21, 2013, at 6:49 PM, Rob Weir wrote: I volunteer to run a RAT scan on the trunk every two weeks and remove any IBM headers that are found there. So we'll never be more then two weeks behind. Yes, I think that allows for any committer to scratch an itch. OK, great t