hello, i'm happy you resolved the issue and that you also helped me
progress in my projects !
have a nice day.
Justin Linotte
Le 19-07-24 à 23:48, Alan C. Assis a écrit :
PR submitted: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/pull/12736
Thank you Justin for finding this issue!!!
You help
-help mode [C] Toggle show-name mode [A] Toggle
show-all mode
[Q] Quit (prompts for save) [D] Save minimal config (advanced)
Thanks you in advance,
Justin Linotte
Le 18-07-24 à 20:52, Alan C. Assis a écrit :
Hi Linotte,
Thanks for testing our tutorials, it is important to validate and find
hello, i hope my question doesn't bother you, i'm an amateur, not a pro
with 40y of experience so it may be dumb for you. i'm also an amateur in
english btw
when i do make like advised here :
https://nuttx.apache.org/docs/latest/quickstart/compiling_make.html#build-nuttx
i get this :
:~/pico
Hello, i do not master Nuttx deeply, but i want to create a system using
Computer vision to naviguate
I develop my system on a raspberry pi pico board with nuttx on it and i
see in the docs that there is support for machine learning like YOLO
(you only look once), but there is no more documentation
project under the
Apache license.
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Justin
> On 11 Dec 2023, at 1:54 am, Gregory Nutt wrote:
>
> On 12/10/2023 7:15 AM, Alan C. Assis wrote:
>> I understand your point. And in fact I think the issue is not your
>> contribution itself, but the future contributi
Hi,
Something that may be of interest. I managed to get the ASF membership in the
Bluetooth SIG and get a company id/manufacturer id (0x0B65) This also means
anyone with an apache.org email address can sign up as a Bluetooth SIG user. [1]
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1. https://apps.bluetooth.com
de being talked about
part of the original software grant?
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e as they are unlikely to be under an open source license and NuttX
would need to get permission to use them. May need to clarify on the legal
discuss list.
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Justin
Hi,
> Did you intend to vote on the IPMC thread?
I did I’ll move it there.
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Justin
best to try and get the license terms
changed. If that can’t be done I would do as suggested double check on legal
discuss.
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Justin
Hi,
Nice. Would be better if they called by it correct name - “Apache NuttX”.
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part of the NuttX donation or is it BSD because it’s 3rd party
code from somewhere else?
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1. https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-a
2. https://infra.apache.org/licensing-howto.html#permissive
official process, other than to ask the person/company to fill it it
and sent it to the secretary.
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icense as ALv2 or not?
- How many other files do we hav from this author?
> In the meantime, if I need to move code from a file to a new file (split
> implementation) with BSD header, what header should appear on the new file?
It should stay under the original BSD license.
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Justin
Hi,
For some context most project graduate at 1 1/2 t 2 years, but some take
longer, it just depends on the project. The IP clearance is important and you
would need to show progress on this before you could graduate.
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HI,
> This is a build environment we use for CI, it does not contain any NuttX
> release code.
Thanks for that perhaps make that clearer by adding a description?
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Hi,
This is a little bit of a concern.[1] "Projects MUST direct outsiders towards
official releases rather than raw source repositories, nightly builds,
snapshots, release candidates, or any other similar packages”
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1. http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#publication
limitations under the License.
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eaders we would need permission from the copyright owner who
many not be the person who contributed the file.
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ay need
to make sure that nothing with an incomparable license sneaks in.
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Hi,
> asciidoctor requires ruby
You can use it that way yes but it not required.
One other ways of doing so including javascript for displaying markdown content
on a website.
Justin
Hi,
You might want to look at https://asciidoctor.org It an improved markdown with
a few more features and multiple outputs.
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it’s board report time I think people are just busy
with other things right now.
I’ll take a look and vote when I can.
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So far (with a couple of months to go) more than 900 people have signed up for
the conference.
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HI,
You need to wait until you have been added to the ASF gitHub account before
doing the last step. The usual issue is not setting up 2FA.
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HI,
> I confirmed that the latest releases/9.1 branch fixes the problems.
A vote need to be on a static code base / a release artefact not what is in a
branch. It can’t change as the hashes and signatures would be different for
starters.
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at one point.
I ‘m not sure how often it checks or if that is still the case.
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” email address.
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thread may just means there’s a few less RC’s and less
conversation in the VOTE thread.
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committers have access. If this is just to avoid licensing issues
then I suggest that is also not the best way to deal with that and let’s
discuss what those issue are and see if there are other ways of resolving them.
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Justin
Hi,
> Is it really "All rights reserved.”?
And looking through the rest of your code I can see it common practice. AFAIK
it's not needed and has no legal standing. [1]
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1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_rights_reserved
Hi,
Is it really "All rights reserved.”? Even with the MIT license below there may
be some question raised about this.
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HI,
> Welcome! Are there any formalities that we need to do (vote etc)?
Only if you want them. I would say a lazy consensus applies i.e. if there no
objections then just make it happen.
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Justin
-nconf.gui.o
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e all of these issues as they a) started at
the ASF or b) have all committers sign ICLA or similar c) changed the license
(and all contributors agreed on that) before coming to the ASF.
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d generalize in this case well. I
> would think that the solution would be to bring the CAN file in with the
> existing BSD header. But let's get confirmation on that.
That is a good way to approach it (but not the only one).
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sier to get IPMC
votes on releases. This also make it easier for everyone else as well.
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would help.
Remember to get +1 votes a IPMC member will need to be able to compile it and
some needed votes may need to come from people who are not familiar with your
project.
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Justin
Hi,
> For the DISCLAIMER, does anyone have any ideas what should be included?
Just list the thing that are not in line with ASF policy, missing ASF headers
would be the main one.
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Justin
.
Some of the above also applies to for the app package as well.
What a good board to try on OSX? I tried a few at random that are popular or
that I know but couldn't get the config script to work.
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Justin
1. ./boards/arm/sama5/sama5d3-xplained/boot/uImage
changes here might be too small for a SGA.
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anges here and do we have ICLAs from them?
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1. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NUTTX/License+Clearing
2. https://github.com/apache/dubbo/wiki/CLA-signing-status
speaking only of the legal rights as state in the license of the file.
ASF policy goes beyond (for good reasons) what is just legally possible.
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e nothing
is needed. A CCLA would be a show of good faith or something else official from
them to say there are no issues with using their code.
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cense may say) IMO if that is the case we
should remove the code.
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cts. Mynewt
made a lot of effort to get permission to use code and in some cases change
licensing with 3rd parties.
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Justin
Hi,
> Given that we have been trying unsuccessfully to get an SGA from NXP
This I think in the issue why are they not willing to do this?
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Hi,
> The tarballs should be uploaded to [1] and/or [2] right?
Correct. I’ve created them for you.
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HI,
https://apache.org/logos/ prefers svg, eps, ai or pdf. If you submit something
else they will likely vectorise it for you and make them the right size.
Central services can also help if it needed.
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Justin
Hi,
It would be easy to put the image on your wiki / confluence.
Justin
this to make it clear who owns the code.
# Global owners
* @apache/nuttx-committers
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Hi,
I would suggest you report this month otherwise you’ll be asked to report again
next month.
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Justin
Hi,
I would make a check list like so [1], this one assumes you are using the
ordinary disclaimer. I’ve reviewed hundreds and hundreds of releases so can
help out. I also know what the IPMC looks out for and I’m currently the VP of
the Incubator.
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Justin
1.
https://cwiki.apache.org
Hi,
> For the Sony contributions I will change the license in all contributed
> files as soon as I get clearance from our department
They would need to submit a SGA to the ASF for this to happen.
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,
Justin
1. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2002-08-05-0208050013-story.html
wn
this track it is on I will have no choice but to resign as a mentor.
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Justin
ght be good for it to report again this month.
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ng not work on the code. All contribution are generally valuable even if
they need some minor tweaks and you want to encourage people to contribute.
Apache often says "community over code”.
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al case,
> for example the owner don't response PR for a long time.
If they don’t respond it mean you have driven them away, and that teh best time
to ask yourself what could you have done differently to keep them involved?
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(In some
cases your employment contract may prohibit you from doing this.)
For small contributions an ICLA is all we need. An SGA is used to donate an
sizeable amount of existing code
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1. https://www.apache.org/licenses/contributor-agreements.html
Hi,
Sorry late here - what I should have said is “may NOT 100% agree with it.”.
Justin
100% agree
with it. People may not agree, but collectively everyone thinks this is the
best way forward. Getting consensus can sometimes be difficult and involve a
lot of discussion.
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nsus and when called teh outcome is already known.
I would not suggest having a vote on this in such a short time frame.
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over code.
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ild is better than the last one. We would prefer that project make frequent
releases, gradually improving things, and not put off a release trying to make
it perfect. One path leads to community growth, the other to community decline,
I’ll let you guess which is which.
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[*] The p
Hi.
I wold also read [1][2]. I have also given talks at ApacheCon on this, see
[3][4] for examples. Both [3] and I think [4] predate the work in progress
disclaimer, which makes it easier for you.
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1. https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html
2. http://www.apache.org/dev
construct a rat
exclusion file to filter out any 3rd party code or other known issues. Having a
documented rat exclusion file would help teh incubator review your releases.
Once that is done it will pick up any new issues quite easily. It can also be
used to replace licenses headers.
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r release checks.
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1. https://creadur.apache.org/rat/
.
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1. https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@nuttx.apache.org
will be harder to detect
downtime track, these changes shouldn’t have been merged. Why is this project
ignore good advice from it's mentors?
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as well.
> I think we should get an SGA from Xiaomi and Sony ASAP.
A software grant is not required but it may make the licensing situation a
little easier, but there’s about 150+(?) different copyright holders so that
still need to be dealt with.
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do not comply with
existing ASF policy and their original header will need to be added back. I
would suggest you don’t do a bulk replacements and they will cause many issues.
Please read [1]
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1. https://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#3party
Hi,
Looking at the report this question needed to be answered, you need to include
a date.
"### When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?"
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Hi,
> It's due by end of the day, right?
It best if it submitted before it due so if there are any issues they can be
corrected.
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Hi,
This is due today is the PPMC working on it?
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should be
aware of. These issues are things that are not in line with ASF release or
license policy.
> I moved both "FAT long file names" and tools/ under NOTICE. Or do you
> think we should remove the "tools" note all together?
If it not in the release it doesn’t need to be mentioned.
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pam folders. Who is the
email sent from, we can add that sender to the subscribers list.
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ase we are making so I’m not sure
the “tools” section will apply. The note about "drivers/video/ov2640” is
concerning as this may mean that’s under a GPL license and not compatible.
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)PMC member votes are counted.
The release candidate has to be signed. This is usually done by the release
manager, but others can sign it if they want.
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Hi,
Where is the project at in moving forward to make it’s next release?
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liugu...@gmail.com, wouldn’t it be better to send email to the list?
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1. https://builds.apache.org/job/NuttX-Nightly-Build/
Hi,
> I personally deliberately avoided number of commits/PRs in the report
> as I saw Justin giving the same remark in his review to other reports
> that did that, and I believe he has a good argument.
I’s not just my point, the board frequently gives the same feedback on reports
HI,
> Instead of giving absolute numbers, why not say there was an increase of x%
> in the number of PRs applied, etc
Which is slightly better but without context or explanation to why this
happened it’s mostly meaningless for people outside the project.
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e non-technical details but it will help to keep a track on the
> health of the community.
On their own they are meaningless, you need to explain why they are significant
if you put them in a report. Remember people who read this report are not
involved in your project.
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sign off reports.
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Hi,
Don't forget the report is due today.
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[2]
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1. https://lists.apache.org/search.html
2.
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r5b37643fce90c6560308958ac48ea4387b8ee8ae7dbeb265ad1f8527%40%3Cbuilds.apache.org%3E
we use the 78 character line
>> width?
I used Apache Rat to check this and it doesn’t complain, it still clear how the
file is licensed, so both should be fine.
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gt; width?
Same here, doing so may stuff up some license checkers.
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Hi,
Wrong header here as well - please fix.
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Hi,\
Same issue with the headers here.
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Hi,
Any new files developed at the ASF should have ASF headers [1] you also note it
down;t have a copyright line.
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1. https://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#headers
oked into. But just about all podlings have that issue at this stage.
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1. https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Incubator.html
Hi,
it a good idea to start working on the report early so people can give feedback
on it, a week before it is due is the suggestion. Who on the PPMC would like to
try getting a draft together first?
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Hi,
> Being the large opensource conference that it is, I was curious if anyone
> in this project or Apache was planning on attending.
There's lots of Apache people going, pop by their booth and say hi. I will not
be there.
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Hi,
> Thanks, good to know. I am asking my employer about including me in a
> corporate one (CCLA [1]), but if it is too much paperwork I guess I can
> just submit the ICLA.
You would need to submit an ICLA. The CCLA is for more for your employer
benefit not ours.
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Justin
ations don’t reach me/are filtered out.
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HI,
So how are we with this, are we any closer to start considering making a
release?
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n account.
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n access but they need to be in LDAP. [1] that
means you need to be a committer or PPMC member.
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1.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Jenkins#Jenkins-HowdoIgetanaccount?
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