Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

I'm willing to change my VOTE to Yes if there will be no help from Carlos if we will have Project Name: Royale, but ship product name: FlexJS. Sorry but we really have to have real help if it is even going to happen. Thanks, Piotr 2017-09-15 8:36 GMT+02:00 Olaf Krueger : > >So same product but m

Re: [VOTE] Should the Project Name of the Proposed Fork be FlexJS?

Hi, I can see there good reasons for a name change and also a good number for not changing the name. I wouldn’t underestimate the effort needed to change the name and the impact this would have on current users. It’s not an easy to decide but I’m more on the yes side than no side but it’s not a

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

Hi, This was posted by Chris at the [VOTE] thread >and I know what getting rid of "flex" everywhere inside the project would mean regarding refactoring and >tool support. I thought that for now we just vote for a new project name in order to get rid of the word 'Flex' within the Apache project na

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

I agree. Let’s finish the vote on the project name and we can discuss the product (or products) name(s) later. I think we should start the vote on the new name options. I’m not sure what the best format of such a vote should be. We need a culled list of options and way of tallying up opinions.

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

Another idea to get out the naming dilemma could be to find a name for the new project that still contains 'flex' but don't let you think of flex when you read it the first time, e.g.: ... Inflexion Flexor Flexure ... Just a Scrabble exercise... ;-) So people might be less confused if they find

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

Harbs, Agree to start another vote simultaneously. We have gathered proposition in this email chain, if you could get all of them. VOTE could look like that: +1 (Name from the list) +1 (My proposition) Does this sound ok ? I'm looking into the code what would be the impact changing all the reso

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

Could we try to summarize all name proposals in order to build a single post that contains all candidates (project names) before voting? I think it's not so easy to extract all naming ideas from the different threads/posts, I just remember a few. What do you think of just creating a list of previou

RE: Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

I actually spilt some coffee on this one. Lol -Mark K -Original Message- From: Erik de Bruin [mailto:e...@ixsoftware.nl] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 1:26 PM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork BendForward... (just kidding!) EdB

RE: [VOTE] Should the Project Name of the Proposed Fork be FlexJS?

No (binding) The project name should not contain Flex or JS. The flex change because it’s separating the name and the JS because we do more than JS. -Mark K -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 11:37 AM To: dev@flex.ap

RE: Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

I wanted to throw in a couple words / names to see if they "spark" anything. Arise Dawn Raise / Rise Dimension Facet Morph Poly Strand Derive Drive Quest Journey Fortune Prospect Trend -Mark K

Re: [VOTE] Should the Project Name of the Proposed Fork be FlexJS?

I think the name doesn't really matter.. all I want is a solid trustable framework.. if it uses as3 instead of typescript? better than... lately I've been porting a complete app from as3 to typescript (all I wanted is that FlexJS had a stable release no matter the name..) my 2 cents 2017-09-15 11

Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

Hi, I'm with Om and others that one of the results we pursue with this renaming is to avoid the "Flex" name. We talked about the problems we have today with clients when "Flex" is put in a discussion. You pay in terms of credibility to your client. For migration : As a customer, I don't think mig

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

Hi Erik, very good question. Hope people would want to donate some minutes here since I think this is, in the end, about what is all about. 2017-09-14 15:22 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin : > Piotr, > > I'm not subscribed, would you mind doing this for me? > > EdB > > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:16

Re: [VOTE] Should the Project Name of the Proposed Fork be FlexJS?

No (Binding) 2017-09-15 15:06 GMT+02:00 Rui Cruz : > I think the name doesn't really matter.. all I want is a solid trustable > framework.. if it uses as3 instead of typescript? better than... lately > I've been porting a complete app from as3 to typescript (all I wanted is > that FlexJS had a st

Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

Carlos, Love your passion and share it fully. I cannot fully agree with you that having an old application in Flex people will need to rewrite completely. If they have separated enough good logic - they can put it without to much effort in our framework. - That is huge advantage in my opinion. Vo

[OT] Unsubscribed and offline for a few weeks

Hi, I'd just like to let you know that this my last day at work before I'll start a holiday trip over a few weeks. Hence I've been unsubscribed from the list. Probably I will be sporadically online. Thanks, Olaf -- Sent from: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/

Re: [OT] Unsubscribed and offline for a few weeks

Enjoy the break! :-) Harbs > On Sep 15, 2017, at 6:14 PM, Olaf Krueger wrote: > > Hi, > I'd just like to let you know that this my last day at work before I'll > start a holiday trip over a few weeks. > Hence I've been unsubscribed from the list. Probably I will be sporadically > online. > > T

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

It is funny, but actually, as we we've been thinking about adding suffixes for target runtimes like Bend -> BendJS, it did occur to me that we would have a problem if someone created a runtime we wanted to target called "Dover". My 2 cents, -Alex On 9/15/17, 2:59 AM, "Kessler CTR Mark J" wrote:

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

On Sep 15, 2017 8:37 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote: It is funny, but actually, as we we've been thinking about adding suffixes for target runtimes like Bend -> BendJS, it did occur to me that we would have a problem if someone created a runtime we wanted to target called "Dover" Hahaha. Took me a whi

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

Hi Carlos, I agree with Piotr. Retaining your ActionScript business logic instead of the risk of porting it to a less structured language is one of the original premises behind FlexJS. I could be wrong, but I think all of the emails I've answered about FlexJS in the past months are from people l

Re: [OT] Unsubscribed and offline for a few weeks

Olaf, Have a great vacation! EdB On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Olaf Krueger wrote: > Hi, > I'd just like to let you know that this my last day at work before I'll > start a holiday trip over a few weeks. > Hence I've been unsubscribed from the list. Probably I will be sporadically > onlin

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

> > have a problem if someone created a runtime we wanted to target called > "Dover". > Are you testing the non-native speakers? I spilt some of my coffee over that one ;-) EdB -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl

Re: [OT] Unsubscribed and offline for a few weeks

Olaf, Reading the beginning makes my heart stop! :) Get back here after the vacation! :) Enjoy! Piotr On Fri, Sep 15, 2017, 18:07 Erik de Bruin wrote: > Olaf, > > Have a great vacation! > > EdB > > > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Olaf Krueger > wrote: > > > Hi, > > I'd just like to let

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

As Alex said I also didn't answer for any single email from someone who would like to start from scratch app or even would be new Flex world. We may get such people in the future, but we need to go with path where first target will be ports the old one applications. As for the bad press - 4 years

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

Definitely the were the most support for Royale. +1 for starting vote YES/NO. We could express in the VOTE thread that anyone can shot his own name idea and others can give him +1. Piotr On Fri, Sep 15, 2017, 18:39 Piotr Zarzycki wrote: > As Alex said I also didn't answer for any single email f

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Piotr Zarzycki wrote: > Definitely the were the most support for Royale. +1 for starting vote > YES/NO. We could express in the VOTE thread that anyone can shot his own > name idea and others can give him +1. > There were several suggestions, some of which we cou

RE: [VOTE] Should the Project Name of the Proposed Fork be FlexJS?

Yes - binding Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Dave Fisher Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:37 AM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: [VOTE] Should the Project Name of the Proposed Fork b

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

Dave says, and I agree, that if there is more than one candidate, we might need to use a more complicated voting system like STeVe. What other suggestions do you think have been popular enough to make a second candidate? I think FlexJS has been rejected as the project name. If anyone wants to pus

RE: Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

> For migration : As a customer, I don't think migration is a real option. I can’t say I agree with that. The business logic is almost seamlessly ported. The UI is more involved but still pretty similar. Also, most examples one sees these days are using the Basic component set. I can envision

Renaming Work (Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork)

In this thread, let's see if we can list out what needs to be done to rename the code. I think for the ActionScript code, the steps are: 1) go through each folder in framework/projects and do: git mv src/main/flex src/main/royale git mv src/main/flex/org/apache/flex src/main/flex/org/apache

Re: Renaming Work (Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork)

Would the text of licenses and suchlike fall into the documentation task? That is a task I have done several times with software companies and would be glad to help out with, given that it does not require much code expertise to make sure the sentences are coherent and refer to the current product

RE: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

/s DNF SDK - Definitely Not Flash SDK YAAS SDK - Yet Another ActionScript SDK :P -Mark K -Original Message- From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 1:31 PM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS For

Re: Renaming Work (Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork)

Hi Andrew, I think our licenses don't mention project or product names since it is all under Apache, but if you have time to help with checking on that we'd certainly appreciate it. Thanks, -Alex On 9/15/17, 10:51 AM, "Andrew Wetmore" wrote: >Would the text of licenses and suchlike fall into t

Re: [VOTE] Should the Project Name of the Proposed Fork be FlexJS?

Hi Rui, Are you not allowed to consider 'beta' frameworks? That's an interesting data point. The supposed advantage of working with open source at Apache is that you can directly influence the development of the code including stabilizing the parts you need. Thanks, -Alex On 9/15/17, 6:06 AM, "

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

I think Piotr started this same thread on users@. You can follow it here [1]. Some interesting thoughts today. [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/23de478726b584a9930e14819989cbc66247aa 634bd44ba5b21b46f9@%3Cusers.flex.apache.org%3E -Alex On 9/15/17, 7:23 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com o

Re: Renaming Work (Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork)

I did a quick look through licenses and this does not seem to be the problem I thought it might be. I would be glad to help with documentation migration when we get to that point. On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > I think our licenses don't mention project or pr

Re: Renaming Work (Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork)

Hi Alex, I think the plan should be as you said. Must be in part, to a controlled search and replace by all the files, and setup repos in right order. Maybe some running process will need to be redone, as I didn't put my hands on that, I think can't help in that particular field, but as I mention,

Re: [VOTE][DISCUSS] Should the Project Name of the Proposed Fork be FlexJS?

Alex -you have not voted. Please vote folks. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 14, 2017, at 2:56 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > Is this a No Binging VOTE? > >> On Sep 14, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Alex Harui wrote: >> >> Can we stop this vote thread and start a new one for a new name? I don't >> want to wa

Re: [VOTE][DISCUSS] Should the Project Name of the Proposed Fork be FlexJS?

Abstain. Gonna go with the flow... On 9/15/17, 4:22 PM, "Dave Fisher" wrote: >Alex -you have not voted. Please vote folks. > >Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 14, 2017, at 2:56 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> Is this a No Binging VOTE? >> >>> On Sep 14, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Alex Harui >>>wrote: >