need both? If so, what order?
>
>
> Best regards,
>TBraz
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Justin Mclean [mailto:jus...@classsoftware.com]
>Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 3:49 PM
>To: dev@flex.apache.org
>Subject: Re: Installer Revisited
>
>Hi,
>
>&
Thanks, Justin.
Do they need both? If so, what order?
Best regards,
TBraz
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From: Justin Mclean [mailto:jus...@classsoftware.com]
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 3:49 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Installer Revisited
Hi,
> Is there a means to inst
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De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Envoyé : lundi 13 janvier 2014 22:32
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
If you have an application built with the Flex SDK, your client's shouldn't
need to install the Flex SDK in order to use
Hi,
> Is there a means to install ApacheFlex without requiring the AIR package?
Yes. Look at the scripts in the IDE directory makeApacheFlexForIDE and
constructFlexForIDE.
Thanks,
Justin
opment, there is no need for
>it after install...
>
>
>TBraz
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com]
>Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 5:59 AM
>To: dev@flex.apache.org
>Subject: RE: Installer Revisited
>
>>Assuming I d
t: RE: Installer Revisited
>Assuming I don't target an AIR application, then I suppose the AIR SDK is
>required, but this is installed by the installer.
AFAIU, that's correct
Maurice
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De : Tom Chiverton [mailto:t...@extravision.com] Envoyé : lundi
On 1/5/14 6:33 AM, "Tom Chiverton" wrote:
>> I might also be able to
>> post my binaries after I get a few kinks worked out.
>
>Giving that a go - again, what's the FLEX_HOME variable required for here
>?
Falcon is currently set up to be "injected" into a Flex or FlexJS SDK. I
have done most
On Saturday 04 Jan 2014 16:11:39 Alex Harui wrote:
> Yeah, wiki stuff is out of date. You'll need to set up environment
> variables. Hopefully the error messages are informative enough to give
> you a clue.
Well, yes, but I didn't understand why the Flex compiler needs a path to a
Flex install
I posted my binary packages here:
http://people.apache.org/~aharui/FlexJS/binaries/
Running "ant -f installer.xml install" worked for me on mac. I'm going to
be trying on Windows tomorrow. You will need to modify the
local.properties to point to the installer-config-4.0.xml and other
packages.
Yeah, wiki stuff is out of date. You'll need to set up environment
variables. Hopefully the error messages are informative enough to give
you a clue.
I'll try to take a shot at updating the wiki. I might also be able to
post my binaries after I get a few kinks worked out.
-Alex
On 1/4/14 6:03
On Friday 03 Jan 2014 19:23:58 Alex Harui wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> Thanks for trying it. I think these scripts are expecting to be run
> inside an expanded binary package. Run ant release,
falken@wopr:~/workspace/flex-falcon$ ant release
Buildfile: /home/falken/workspace/flex-falcon/build.xml
chec
Hi Tom,
Thanks for trying it. I think these scripts are expecting to be run
inside an expanded binary package. Run ant release, get the binary
package from the out folder, expand that somewhere and then run the
installer.xml from in there.
Thanks,
-Alex
On 1/3/14 10:53 AM, "Tom Chiverton" wro
On Friday 03 Jan 2014 09:19:13 you wrote:
> On 02/01/2014 18:06, Alex Harui wrote:
> > OK. I'm essentially ignorant as to how installs happen on Linux. If you
> > have time, can you try to get the installer.xml files to run for
> > flex-falcon/flex-asjs on Linux?
Separate sections below for each
So one of the goals of rewriting the installer is to get us out of the
business of needing to create platform-dependent artifacts. Ideally, the
next release of the Apache Flex Installer would be the last one ever. All
further installs are done by having the Installer execute an ant script in
a GU
On 02/01/2014 18:06, Alex Harui wrote:
OK. I'm essentially ignorant as to how installs happen on Linux. If you
have time, can you try to get the installer.xml files to run for
flex-falcon/flex-asjs on Linux?
It's a bit like .dmg on MacOS in that a single file contains the
dependency and metada
On 1/2/14 8:51 AM, "Tom Chiverton" wrote:
>On 02/01/2014 16:23, Alex Harui wrote:
>> Sort of. I'm not envisioning a shell based installer. Just an
>>AIR-based
>> installer like we have now, or else we assume you have Ant installed and
>> you download an archive, unpack it, and run "ant instal
On 02/01/2014 16:23, Alex Harui wrote:
Sort of. I'm not envisioning a shell based installer. Just an AIR-based
installer like we have now, or else we assume you have Ant installed and
you download an archive, unpack it, and run "ant install" or something
like that.
My thoughts are that second m
Oh, I forgot. If you try to run installer.xml from flex-asjs, you need to
have run "ant release" in flex-falcon and point to the bin.zip with
something like:
falcon.url.path=file:///Users/aharui/git/flex/master/flex-falcon/out
On 1/2/14 8:23 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote:
>
>
>On 1/2/14 3:05 AM, "Tom
On 1/2/14 3:05 AM, "Tom Chiverton" wrote:
>But it sounds like the plan is to structure things so that the installer
>(AIR or Shell based) can download an archive and then just unpack it and
>run ant, and ant will take care of putting stuff in the correct place ?
>And the list of things to down
On 17/12/2013 14:15, Alex Harui wrote:
You are welcome to take on writing the installer.xml for flex-sdk, or I
will get to it over the next few weeks. My current plan (once I get past
this PGP Key fiasco) is to get the flex-asjs and flex-falcon ant scripts
to work then get ant_on_air to run them
an be installed at the same time. However if
you have an environmental variable, It can only be pointed to one version at a
time.
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:t...@extravision.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:55 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Inst
: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Installer Revisited
You can have multiple different JDK versions at once can't you ? Even on
Windows ?
I didn't think we were suggesting not having a GUI installer for the
SDK, just that under the hood it would call an ant task ?
Tom
On 17/12/
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Muppirala
Envoyé : lundi 16 décembre 2013 20:15
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Alex Harui wrote:
That's interesting.
On Mac, folks are given a dmg file that essentially installs the
installer
Maurice
>
> -Message d'origine-
> De : omup...@gmail.com [mailto:omup...@gmail.com] De la part de OmPrakash
> Muppirala
> Envoyé : lundi 16 décembre 2013 20:15
> À : dev@flex.apache.org
> Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
>
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Alex
I checked in an ant script for flex-falcon. The proposed pattern is to
put it all in an installer.xml file. It presumes you have expanded the
binary kit and am running ant -f installer.xml in that expanded kit. It
will download and copy stuff into that same folder. I guess maybe we
should add a
On 16/12/2013 20:24, Alex Harui wrote:
On 12/16/13 11:14 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" wrote:
On Linux, we can probably assume that Ant is already installed, or just a
'yum install' away from being available. That way, they can just use the
ant script just as well.
Interesting. Tom, do you agre
Hi,
The stats of which versions of windows use the installer is unclear. We did
have one person use the installer to install 4.11 on Windows NT. Wonder how
that worked out for them?
Justin
Hi,
> Do you guys know the breakdown of which OS's are downloading?
Via the installer it's 74% window, 25% OSX and 1% linux. Via other mean we
don't know ie compiling the source or using the binaries and then running the
ide scripts. I usually use the IDE scripts.
Thanks,
Justin
sler CTR Mark J [mailto:mark.kessler@usmc.mil]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:49 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: RE: Installer Revisited
" I heard it isn't on WinXP. Do we need to support that?"
XP support ends April 8th 2014 [1]. I would say not to support it.
[1] http://windows.m
r language you are working with.
Don't you think so?
Maurice
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Muppirala
Envoyé : lundi 16 décembre 2013 20:15
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
On Mon, Dec 16,
On 12/16/13 11:14 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" wrote:
>
>On Linux, we can probably assume that Ant is already installed, or just a
>'yum install' away from being available. That way, they can just use the
>ant script just as well.
Interesting. Tom, do you agree that Ant would be sufficient for a
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Alex Harui wrote:
> That's interesting.
>
> On Mac, folks are given a dmg file that essentially installs the installer
> and I don't believe it requires that AIR is already installed. Or am I
> wrong about that?
>
Yes, no need for an AIR install. The installer
ay, December 16, 2013 1:03 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Installer Revisited
That's interesting.
On Mac, folks are given a dmg file that essentially installs the installer
and I don't believe it requires that AIR is already installed. Or am I
wrong about that?
On Linux, you
That's interesting.
On Mac, folks are given a dmg file that essentially installs the installer
and I don't believe it requires that AIR is already installed. Or am I
wrong about that?
On Linux, you're saying the package we create still requires a separate
install of AIR?
I'm not a huge fan of
: dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
On 16/12/2013 10:44, Maurice Amsellem wrote:
>> AIR isn't required for*using* the SDK one it is built, right ?
> Do you mean AIR runtime, or AIR SDK ?
>
> Maurice
AIR the runtime.
Assuming I don't target an AIR applic
Hi,
> AIR isn't required for *using* the SDK one it is built, right ?
Correct you can build and install an SDK without using the installer - take a
look at the scripts in the ide directory.
Thanks,
Justin
On 16/12/2013 10:44, Maurice Amsellem wrote:
AIR isn't required for*using* the SDK one it is built, right ?
Do you mean AIR runtime, or AIR SDK ?
Maurice
AIR the runtime.
Assuming I don't target an AIR application, then I suppose the AIR SDK
is required, but this is installed by the installe
>AIR isn't required for *using* the SDK one it is built, right ?
Do you mean AIR runtime, or AIR SDK ?
Maurice
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De : Tom Chiverton [mailto:t...@extravision.com]
Envoyé : lundi 16 décembre 2013 11:38
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisi
On 15/12/2013 15:51, Maurice Amsellem wrote:
In which case, would it make sense that the installer won't be based solely on
Adobe technology?
Maurice
Ahh, interesting, because I was starting to work on an PPA for Ubuntu
users that would correctly install AIR and it's dependencies and then
the
ler" up our sleeves ...
Regards,
Maurice
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De : omup...@gmail.com [mailto:omup...@gmail.com] De la part de OmPrakash
Muppirala
Envoyé : dimanche 15 décembre 2013 18:01
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
On Dec 15, 2013 8:37 AM, "Alex Ha
.
Thanks,
Om
> >>
> >> Maurice
> >>
> >> -Message d'origine-
> >> De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
> >> Envoyé : dimanche 15 décembre 2013 16:35
> >> À : dev@flex.apache.org
> >> Objet : Re: Installer Revis
t; In which case, would it make sense that the installer won't be based
>> solely on Adobe technology?
>>
>> Maurice
>>
>> -Message d'origine-
>> De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
>> Envoyé : dimanche 15 décembre 2013 16:35
&
se that the installer won't be based
> solely on Adobe technology?
>
> Maurice
>
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
> Envoyé : dimanche 15 décembre 2013 16:35
> À : dev@flex.apache.org
> Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
>
: dimanche 15 décembre 2013 16:35
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
Ah, sorry, missed seeing that earlier.
My personal goal is that, someday, a newbie's initial experience when coming to
Apache Flex to learn about Flex is a showcase for Flex. That our current
landin
50 AM, "Maurice Amsellem"
wrote:
>Any reaction to the Java-based installer proposition below (Point B) ?
>
>Maurice
>
>-Message d'origine-
>De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com]
>Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 09:17
>À : dev@flex
Any reaction to the Java-based installer proposition below (Point B) ?
Maurice
-Message d'origine-
De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 09:17
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : RE: Installer Revisited
(Point A)
>I tho
reliminary" discussions on what could be done
>in the near future.
>
>Regards,
>
>Maurice
>
>-----Message d'origine-
>De : Justin Mclean [mailto:jus...@classsoftware.com]
>Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 09:52
>À : dev@flex.apache.org
>Objet : Re: I
the UI:
> - fast download and install
> - does not break when a resource is not available
> - well thought and efficient UI.
>
> That's only my personal view.
>
> Maurice
>
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Erik de Bruin [mailto:e...@ixsoftware.nl]
> Envoyé
ns on what could be done in
the near future.
Regards,
Maurice
-Message d'origine-
De : Justin Mclean [mailto:jus...@classsoftware.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 09:52
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
Hi,
A few questions:
The installer can also run locally ie
-Message d'origine-
De : Erik de Bruin [mailto:e...@ixsoftware.nl]
Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 10:08
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
The FlexJS SDK build is a little more involved than a 'regular' Flex SDK build,
from an Installer point of view. Ins
The FlexJS SDK build is a little more involved than a 'regular' Flex
SDK build, from an Installer point of view. Instead of adding yet
another monolithic code path to the Installer, Alex's idea boils down
to building a 'can handle all builds' installer by using existing ant
build files.
A big +1 o
Hi,
A few questions:
The installer can also run locally ie not download anything but copy local
files. Can we do this with ant for air?
With ant for air how would be be able to select the AIR and FP version and only
download the correct version? Can we default to current latest versions?
Would a
e
-Message d'origine-
De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 01:42
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
The ant_on_air stuff is brand new and full of bugs. I thought Air followed
redirects. There must be code in the installer tha
Right, ant_on_air is only for the installer to use to run an ant target
without ant installed. That target will be added to build.xml or its own
xml file and just upgrade a binary package into an IDE compatible
directory structure. It should not need to compile anything.
All other targets will r
Hi,
Little bit lost on the thread here - but I assume that you'll still be able to
build a source and binary release without using ant for air. I rather not add
yet another stumbling block to compile or use on a CI machine.
Thanks,
Justin
>Maurice
>
>-Message d'origine-
>De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
>Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 00:53
>À : dev@flex.apache.org
>Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
>
>Yup, makes sense.
>
>-Alex
>
>On 12/11/13 3:18 PM, "Maurice Amsellem&quo
#x27;origine-
De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 00:53
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
Yup, makes sense.
-Alex
On 12/11/13 3:18 PM, "Maurice Amsellem"
wrote:
>>I guess it is a separate question whether the mai
tc...)
>
>Makes sense ?
>
>Maurice
>
>-Message d'origine-
>De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
>Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 00:00
>À : dev@flex.apache.org
>Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
>
>
>
>On 12/11/13 2:53 PM, "Maurice Amsell
dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
On 12/11/13 2:53 PM, "Maurice Amsellem"
wrote:
>Hi Alex,
>
>I like better the first idea (that the script is in the first package
>to download, in a known place).
>Furthermore, that would merge the logic for building the SDK
get other stuff and copy it into
the right places. But essentially, the script is co-located in the binary
packages files.
-Alex
>
>-Message d'origine-
>De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
>Envoyé : mercredi 11 décembre 2013 23:26
>À : dev@flex.apache.org
>Obje
Found it: ant_on_air is in flex_utility repo.
-Message d'origine-
De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com]
Envoyé : mercredi 11 décembre 2013 23:54
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : RE: Installer Revisited
Hi Alex,
I like better the first idea (that the script
"? I googled for it, but found nothing. Is
it something already existing, or that has to be done yet?
Maurice
-Message d'origine-
De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Envoyé : mercredi 11 décembre 2013 23:26
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Installer Revisited
Hi,
I'
Hi,
I've checked in enough stuff into flex-utilities/ant_on_air to try to
build out SDK installation in Ant. My plan is to create an ant script
that does what the current installer does, make sure it works in Ant, then
try to get it to work in ant_on_air.
Of course, that will be a bit ugly since
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