Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-12-03 Thread jude
Thanks I need to communicate more. I've been updating the blog around twice a month now but haven't posted updates here. I was pretty burnt out at the time I had donated the code. I didn't want to look at it again and I didn't for months. I went back to school because I didn't have enough debt in m

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-12-02 Thread Harbs
Hi Jude, I also read your whole rant and you have valid points there. I don’t think there was opposition when you donated Radii8. Although sometimes the enthusiasm in donations can get drowned out by the noise of the annoying technical details. I was actually surprised when you went completely

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-12-02 Thread jude
This post bounced for me because of the image attachments. So I'm not sure if the original message made it through. But here's the email from yesterday: Oh and I meant to post these images (below). Most of you won't care because you can write MXML UI faster than in a GUI but for the designers in u

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-12-01 Thread Alex Harui
Hi Jude, Good stuff in here. Thanks for bringing it up. Comments inline... On 12/1/15, 12:35 AM, "jude" wrote: >BTW I do plan to help on Flex JS when the time is right. That is when it's >more stable, when it has a few more design and development features to it. Can you provide more detail o

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-12-01 Thread Michael Schmalle
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:09 PM, Josh Tynjala wrote: > Yeah, I guess that's an unfortunate naming similarity to Adobe's abandoned > "ActionScript Next". I hadn't even made the association. Regardless, I'm > not concerned with a little temporary disappointment. Doing something like > replacing a n

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-12-01 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
Jude, Nice work on Radiate so far. I really hope the commercial version takes off! I read through your rant, all the way to the end. I probably should have posted this earlier, but I spent a long time trying to fit the donated Radiate code into an Eclipse plugin. I have done similar flash cont

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-12-01 Thread jude
BTW I do plan to help on Flex JS when the time is right. That is when it's more stable, when it has a few more design and development features to it. In Radiate I have Import and Export transpilers. For MXML it's been easy to import and export (sortof). For HTML export it's been hell and the bain

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-11-30 Thread Harbs
INAL either, but I’d go with a more lenient approach. AFAIUI, a TM at the first mention of a trademark and some simple text in the footer like this is enough: "All other trademarks and copyrights are the property of their respective owners.” I think this is a relatively accepted practice. If yo

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-11-30 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Would it be acceptable to create a specific legal page, linked from the > footer, that displays the Apache Flex trademark attribution text? INAL so I would just go with a footer as suggested - see [1][2] The second link is talking about Apache pages but it's reasonable to assume that it al

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-11-30 Thread Josh Tynjala
Yeah, I guess that's an unfortunate naming similarity to Adobe's abandoned "ActionScript Next". I hadn't even made the association. Regardless, I'm not concerned with a little temporary disappointment. Doing something like replacing a name associated with darker times with something fresh and hopef

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-11-30 Thread jude
I saw this on Twitter, ""Introducing NextGen ActionScript" via @ *joshtynjala* => http:// joshblog.net/2015/introducing-nextgen-actionscript/ … " Not to be nitpicky but I think it's misleading. I'm stoked about the new website and tutorial

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-11-29 Thread Josh Tynjala
Thanks for the reminder. I'll get the trademark attribution cleaned up this week. Would it be acceptable to create a specific legal page, linked from the footer, that displays the Apache Flex trademark attribution text? I should probably acknowledge some Adobe trademarks too, just to be safe, so t

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-11-29 Thread Josh Tynjala
Thank you for the pledge! I'm definitely going to add many new tutorials there. Especially for using third party libraries, which I feel is what will help catch the eyes of more potential FlexJS users. At least on the ActionScript transpiler side of things. - Josh On Nov 29, 2015 1:44 AM, "Harbs"

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-11-29 Thread Harbs
OK. I did not understand what your objection was. Thanks for making that clear. I never noticed code licensing in tutorials before (and I’ve never thought about it). I just did a quick search on the topic and the footer on the Java page here[1]. Seems like a good way to go about it. The Angula

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-11-29 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > There is currently no code on the website. There is code on the site in the link provided - for instance under step 3. Either way this is simply resolved no need for a long discussion. Thanks, Justin

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-11-29 Thread Harbs
There is currently no code on the website. There is only a single tutorial (and hopefully more soon). There is a “Tools and Utilities” page[1] which links to the Apache Flex website and dts2as on Github. Both have the license clearly stated. [1]http://nextgenactionscript.com/tools-and-utilitie

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-11-29 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I agree we have to be careful, but let's not go overboard with the > carefulness. Not suggesting we go overboard just that we don’t link to any content that is not following Apache trademark policy and when the license is unclear. If those two items are fixed (and they easily and simply a

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-11-29 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > We have to be a little careful here to not be seen to endorse 3rd parties > from our official site. > I agree we have to be careful, but let's not go overboard with the carefulness. Right now, we have 3 prominent links to Adobe co

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-11-29 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, We have to be a little careful here to not be seen to endorse 3rd parties from our official site. Currently that code is "Copyright 2015 Bowler Hat LLC” and not under any obvious license, it would be nice if that was made clearer. Josh it would also be good if you attribute Apache tradema

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-11-29 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
> > I think that sources outside the Apache website is probably the best way > to get traction (and if someone can make a few bucks off their content, > even better). I think we should feature Josh’s site on the Flex site (as > well as anyone else who wants to put in the effort of creating learning

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-11-29 Thread Harbs
Good point on React’s JSX. I did not know that Josh created that site. Cool! I’d love to see some more stuff there! (I just pledged a few bucks as a patron there.) I think that sources outside the Apache website is probably the best way to get traction (and if someone can make a few bucks off t

Re: FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-11-29 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
Agree with all your points! Here is one more: FlexJS's MXML is a real alternative for React's JSX, which looks very similar to MXML [1] 1. Good timing, I am currently working on node.js support for FlexJS. The goal is to make FlexJS installable via a simple "npm install flexjs" command. I hop

FlexJS Brand Positioning

2015-11-29 Thread Harbs
I was thinking of writing a blog post about FlexJS, and I realized that FlexJS can mean different things to different people. 1. FlexJS (or really FalconJX) can be a competitor for TypeScript. I can imagine people using it to write framework agnostic javascript libraries. 2. FlexJS is a replacem