This post bounced for me because of the image attachments. So I'm not sure
if the original message made it through. But here's the email from
yesterday:

Oh and I meant to post these images (below). Most of you won't care because
you can write MXML UI faster than in a GUI but for the designers in us and
your designer friends that ask you to build them a website for the fiftieth
time please send them to this project.

And the main thing I hear from hard core developers about the FB designer
was it sucked. Well, yeah, we all knew it needed work and wasn't getting
any attention or improvements. But a lot of our software sucks too if we
don't work at it. If we were able to dedicate time and energy to it it
would be a different story. So rant over. Today was a bad day so I'm
venting I don't care.

Here are the screenshots:
http://imgur.com/2y3PVW3
http://i.imgur.com/booD25Z.png
http://imgur.com/CivASZL




On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 12:35 AM, jude <flexcapaci...@gmail.com> wrote:

> BTW I do plan to help on Flex JS when the time is right. That is when it's
> more stable, when it has a few more design and development features to it.
>
> In Radiate I have Import and Export transpilers. For MXML it's been easy
> to import and export (sortof). For HTML export it's been hell and the bain
> of my existence. For Android XML markup it's as easy as MXML.
>
> With FlexJS it shouldn't be too much harder to generate FlexJS compatible
> MXML than regular MXML export. FYI Radiate exports markup layouts in the
> language of your choice from the design view. Each component on the stage
> has an associated component descriptor object that has properties, styles,
> events and a reference to the instance. Using this information you can
> export to whatever language you like.
>
> Relatively recently, I switched to working on a desktop "IDE" rather than
> the web "design view". mainly because no one wants to work in a browser.
> Well maybe but the numbers weren't there and people would ask for features
> that weren't possible in a browser. So I created a desktop version in a few
> days, yay for AIR cross-platform, and just for kicks enabled AceEditor
> <https://github.com/monkeypunch3/flexcapacitor/blob/master/MainLibrary/src/com/flexcapacitor/controls/AceEditor.as>
> which I tried to integrate in the past but wouldn't work with Flash. The
> new version worked and now it has a real editor <http://ace.c9.io/> in
> it.
>
> So since R8 is running on the desktop and it has a real editor it's
> possible to talk to the compilers and get error reporting and warnings. I
> don't know how to do code completion but AceEditor has a code completion
> API. As you type you can pass JSON objects of possible autocomplete words.
> I know how to do the examples but I don't know how to do it with FlexJS,
> Flex, etc. CSS and HTML have code completion out of the box.
>
> Anyway, whatever Josh, Alex, Harbs, et all do not do I hope to do. I plan
> to add some support for FlexJS code generation (and possibly compiler
> integration). Create new projects, edit them and compile them. Again, I
> don't know how to do code completion with AS3, Flex, FlexJS, etc.
>
> BTW I am open sourcing parts of it as I go such as the importers and
> exporters, new components and other classes. So if you don't like how I
> export the MXML or HTML you can go to FlexCapacitor,
> https://github.com/monkeypunch3/flexcapacitor, make some changes and then
> submit a pull request.
>
> Do not read this next part unless you want to hear me ranting and
> complaining. But because it's unclear to some people I'm mentioning this
> project I'm going to clarify some things. I donated the radiate code more
> than a year ago to apache. There was a huge amount of overhead and legal
> bureaucracy to accomplish it. I thought people would want it but there was
> resistance. "Was it good enough? Do we want it? Does it fit at apache" - to
> me I was almost felt like saying saying, "f*@0 you guys" I made this for
> you as a gift and you don't know if you want it?
>  I worked on the project in my free time for years and couldn't believe
> what I was hearing. It was not a good month. A few people supported me
> donating it and I thought the Flex community might care about having a
> design view again at some point in the future. Since it was donated I
> didn't hear anyone working on it or any interest in taking it farther. Not
> on this list. In my personal email a few people were happy to see something
> but didn't have the time or resources to help. I wasn't too upset because
> to be honest parts of it were shit but those parts had to be written
> quickly so the other parts could work. I could always go back and fix it
> and one startup developer I talked to gave me the advice that the first gen
> code is always throw away. In my mind it was "refactor". His startup was
> doing well
>
> So again I was surprised an open source project was not fully embraced,
> appreciated or supported. ... I could go on but my whole point is that open
> source has a bunch of lies surrounding it. Look at OpenSSL. It powered half
> the webs ecommerce and do you know how much money was donated
> <http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/04/tech-giants-chastened-by-heartbleed-finally-agree-to-fund-openssl/>
> to it? It was something like $2000 per year and was maintained by one
> developer. WTF guys?
>
> That project generated billions of dollars and no one supported it. My
> point is, after that first point, is that I'm trying to commercial radiate
> so that I can keep working on it. I'm giving some parts back to the OS
> community as I can but some part of me feels like I have to explain this.
> Like I'm not part of the OS crowd because I'm trying to make it survive.
>
> I'm happy for this FlexJS and NextGenActionScript but seriously, we suck
> donkey balls at raising money and supporting our work. Angular, typscript,
> all those other ones are getting resources, popularity in the biased
> asshole media. The company that shall not be named was horrible and still
> is horrible at marketing. I made a list and they are the number one worst
> company for marketing. So my point is we have to change or get better at
> this. If the media attacks it rip these assholes apart. IE defend it with a
> vengeance.
>
> Sorry rant over. If legal gets in the way F* them too. Justin, keep
> watching our back but if all the legal is prevent releases or progress FUCK
> IT. Just get shit out. ok rant really over now.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:32 PM, jude <flexcapaci...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I saw this on Twitter, ""Introducing NextGen ActionScript" via @
>> *joshtynjala* <https://twitter.com/joshtynjala> => http://
>> joshblog.net/2015/introducing-nextgen-actionscript/ …
>> <https://t.co/AnMp1Vw7p7>"
>>
>> Not to be nitpicky but I think it's misleading. I'm stoked about the new
>> website and tutorials. In fact everything, but when I read, "NextGen
>> ActionScript" I thought of the NextGen AS3 project that Adobe started and
>> then abandoned. Knowing that it wasn't the Adobe project but knowing what
>> you've been working on I immediately did believe AS3 was going to be
>> getting new features. I didn't want to get my hopes up that it was an AS3.5
>> or AS4 type of project but after reading the blog post I was still
>> disappointed even with all of the good news in it.
>>
>> To me the title is misleading and other AS3 devs may respond the same way
>> when they read it. While we are trying to announce the good news about F-JS
>> we might want to make clearer the distinction. BTW If these things are
>> planned and or I've misunderstood let me know.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Josh Tynjala <joshtynj...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the reminder. I'll get the trademark attribution cleaned up
>>> this
>>> week.
>>>
>>> Would it be acceptable to create a specific legal page, linked from the
>>> footer, that displays the Apache Flex trademark attribution text? I
>>> should
>>> probably acknowledge some Adobe trademarks too, just to be safe, so
>>> that's
>>> going to be a lot to add to the footer. The page you linked seems to
>>> imply
>>> that's allowed, as long as all trademark attribution is in the same
>>> place,
>>> but I figured I'd check.
>>>
>>> - Josh
>>> On Nov 29, 2015 2:10 AM, "Justin Mclean" <justinmcl...@me.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > We have to be a little careful here  to not be seen to endorse 3rd
>>> parties
>>> > from our official site.
>>> >
>>> > Currently that code is "Copyright 2015 Bowler Hat LLC” and not under
>>> any
>>> > obvious license, it would be nice if that was made clearer.
>>> >
>>> > Josh it would also be good if you attribute Apache trademarks correctly
>>> > [1] and if you could and link back to the Apache Flex web site. Just
>>> adding
>>> > a TM to the first mention and  a line in the footer is all that is
>>> needed.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Justin
>>> >
>>> > 1. http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#guidelines
>>>
>>
>>
>

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