Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio? - ivshmem is back

2017-03-30 Thread Markus Armbruster
Stefan Hajnoczi writes: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 09:48:38AM +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote: >> We are discussing about IVSHMEM but its support by Qemu is confused. >> This feature is not in the MAINTAINERS file of Qemu. >> Please Qemu maintainers, what is the future of IVSHMEM? Red-headed stepchi

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio? - ivshmem is back

2017-03-21 Thread Thomas Monjalon
M > To: Thomas Monjalon > Cc: Wiles, Keith; Jason Wang; Vincent JARDIN; Stephen Hemminger; O'Driscoll, > Tim; Legacy, Allain (Wind River); Yigit, Ferruh; dev@dpdk.org; Jolliffe, Ian > (Wind River); Markus Armbruster; Stefan Hajnoczi > Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio? - ivshmem is back

2017-03-20 Thread Hobywan Kenoby
Monjalon Cc: Wiles, Keith; Jason Wang; Vincent JARDIN; Stephen Hemminger; O'Driscoll, Tim; Legacy, Allain (Wind River); Yigit, Ferruh; dev@dpdk.org; Jolliffe, Ian (Wind River); Markus Armbruster; Stefan Hajnoczi Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio? - iv

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio? - ivshmem is back

2017-03-17 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 09:48:38AM +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote: > I think there is one interesting technological point in this thread. > We are discussing about IVSHMEM but its support by Qemu is confused. > This feature is not in the MAINTAINERS file of Qemu. > Please Qemu maintainers, what is th

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio? - ivshmem is back

2017-03-17 Thread Legacy, Allain
> -Original Message- > From: Thomas Monjalon [mailto:thomas.monja...@6wind.com] > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 4:49 AM <...> > I think there is one interesting technological point in this thread. > We are discussing about IVSHMEM but its support by Qemu is confused. > This feature is not

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio? - ivshmem is back

2017-03-17 Thread Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-17 00:53, Wiles, Keith: > Regardless of what the transport layer is ivshmem, virtio sharemem, ethernet, > a serial line at 9600 baud or two squirrels transferring nuts it just does > not make sense to restrict a transport type like ivshmem (that AVP is using) > over any other transport t

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio? - ivshmem is back

2017-03-16 Thread Wiles, Keith
> On Mar 17, 2017, at 8:31 AM, Vincent JARDIN wrote: > > Le 17/03/2017 à 01:11, Wiles, Keith a écrit : >> it seems like some other hidden agenda is at play here, but I am a paranoid >> person :-) > > Keith, please stop such invalid argument! It is non sense. > > We need to understand the bene

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio? - ivshmem is back

2017-03-16 Thread Vincent JARDIN
Le 17/03/2017 à 01:11, Wiles, Keith a écrit : it seems like some other hidden agenda is at play here, but I am a paranoid person :-) Keith, please stop such invalid argument! It is non sense. We need to understand the benefits of diverging from virtio since here it is about creating new devi

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio? - ivshmem is back

2017-03-16 Thread O'Driscoll, Tim
> From: Wiles, Keith > > > > On Mar 17, 2017, at 7:41 AM, Vincent JARDIN > wrote: > > > > Let's be back to 2014 with Qemu's thoughts on it, > > +Stefan > > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/virtualization/2014- > June/026767.html > > > > and > > +Markus > > https://lists.linuxfoundatio

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio? - ivshmem is back

2017-03-16 Thread Stephen Hemminger
On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 00:11:10 + "Wiles, Keith" wrote: > > On Mar 17, 2017, at 7:41 AM, Vincent JARDIN > > wrote: > > > > Let's be back to 2014 with Qemu's thoughts on it, > > +Stefan > > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/virtualization/2014-June/026767.html > > > > and > > +Marku

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio? - ivshmem is back

2017-03-16 Thread Wiles, Keith
> On Mar 17, 2017, at 7:41 AM, Vincent JARDIN wrote: > > Let's be back to 2014 with Qemu's thoughts on it, > +Stefan > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/virtualization/2014-June/026767.html > > and > +Markus > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/virtualization/2014-June/026713

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio? - ivshmem is back

2017-03-16 Thread Wiles, Keith
> On Mar 17, 2017, at 7:41 AM, Vincent JARDIN wrote: > > Let's be back to 2014 with Qemu's thoughts on it, > +Stefan > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/virtualization/2014-June/026767.html > > and > +Markus > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/virtualization/2014-June/026713

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio? - ivshmem is back

2017-03-16 Thread Vincent JARDIN
Let's be back to 2014 with Qemu's thoughts on it, +Stefan https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/virtualization/2014-June/026767.html and +Markus https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/virtualization/2014-June/026713.html 6. Device models belong into QEMU Say you build an actual

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio?

2017-03-16 Thread Stephen Hemminger
On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 04:10:56 + "O'Driscoll, Tim" wrote: > I've included a couple of specific comments inline below, and a general > comment here. > > We have somebody proposing to add a new driver to DPDK. It's standalone and > doesn't affect any of the core libraries. They're willing to m

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio?

2017-03-16 Thread Francois Ozog
On 16 March 2017 at 11:32, Chas Williams <3ch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-03-16 at 03:18 +, O'Driscoll, Tim wrote: > > > From: Vincent JARDIN [mailto:vincent.jar...@6wind.com] > > > > > > Le 15/03/2017 à 11:55, Thomas Monjalon a écrit : > > > >> I'd suggest that this is a good topic f

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio?

2017-03-16 Thread Chas Williams
On Thu, 2017-03-16 at 03:18 +, O'Driscoll, Tim wrote: > > From: Vincent JARDIN [mailto:vincent.jar...@6wind.com] > > > > Le 15/03/2017 à 11:55, Thomas Monjalon a écrit : > > >> I'd suggest that this is a good topic for the next Tech Board > > meeting. > > > I agree Tim. > > > CC'ing techboard

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio?

2017-03-16 Thread Wiles, Keith
Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 16, 2017, at 4:53 PM, Francois Ozog wrote: > > Hi, > > Virtio is special in many ways: > - it is a multi-vendor supported specification > - it is a multi-vendor opensource implementation in guest OSes > (Windows, Linux, FreeBSD...) > - it is a multi-vendor, opens

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio?

2017-03-16 Thread Francois Ozog
Hi, Virtio is special in many ways: - it is a multi-vendor supported specification - it is a multi-vendor opensource implementation in guest OSes (Windows, Linux, FreeBSD...) - it is a multi-vendor, opensource implementation in hypervisors So, the great benefit of virtio is that with a SINGLE d

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio?

2017-03-15 Thread O'Driscoll, Tim
> From: Vincent JARDIN [mailto:vincent.jar...@6wind.com] > > Le 15/03/2017 à 11:55, Thomas Monjalon a écrit : > >> I'd suggest that this is a good topic for the next Tech Board > meeting. > > I agree Tim. > > CC'ing techboard to add this item to the agenda of the next meeting. > > Frankly, I disa

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio?

2017-03-15 Thread Wiles, Keith
> On Mar 15, 2017, at 10:02 PM, Vincent JARDIN wrote: > > Le 15/03/2017 à 05:10, O'Driscoll, Tim a écrit : >>> so, still an nack because: >>> - no performance data of avp vs virtio, >> I don't think it should be a requirement for Allain to provide performance >> data in order to justify getti

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio?

2017-03-15 Thread Ferruh Yigit
On 3/15/2017 2:08 PM, Vincent JARDIN wrote: > Le 15/03/2017 à 12:29, Ferruh Yigit a écrit : >> The scope of the patch is limited to PMD. >> As long as it is maintained, it is good to have alternative approaches. > > From your logic, then, how many PMDs can be accepted? > > See my previous email:

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio?

2017-03-15 Thread Vincent JARDIN
Le 15/03/2017 à 11:55, Thomas Monjalon a écrit : I'd suggest that this is a good topic for the next Tech Board meeting. I agree Tim. CC'ing techboard to add this item to the agenda of the next meeting. Frankly, I disagree, it is missing some discussions on the list.

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio?

2017-03-15 Thread Vincent JARDIN
Le 15/03/2017 à 12:29, Ferruh Yigit a écrit : The scope of the patch is limited to PMD. As long as it is maintained, it is good to have alternative approaches. From your logic, then, how many PMDs can be accepted? See my previous email: techboard should not bypass discussion of the dev@ maili

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio?

2017-03-15 Thread Vincent JARDIN
Le 15/03/2017 à 05:10, O'Driscoll, Tim a écrit : so, still an nack because: - no performance data of avp vs virtio, I don't think it should be a requirement for Allain to provide performance data in order to justify getting this accepted into DPDK. Keith pointed out in a previous comment on

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio?

2017-03-15 Thread Vincent JARDIN
Le 15/03/2017 à 05:10, O'Driscoll, Tim a écrit : so, still an nack because: - no performance data of avp vs virtio, I don't think it should be a requirement for Allain to provide performance data in order to justify getting this accepted into DPDK. Keith pointed out in a previous comment on

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio?

2017-03-15 Thread Ferruh Yigit
On 3/15/2017 4:10 AM, O'Driscoll, Tim wrote: > I've included a couple of specific comments inline below, and a general > comment here. > > We have somebody proposing to add a new driver to DPDK. It's standalone and > doesn't affect any of the core libraries. > They're willing to maintain the dri

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio?

2017-03-15 Thread Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-15 04:10, O'Driscoll, Tim: > I've included a couple of specific comments inline below, and a general > comment here. > > We have somebody proposing to add a new driver to DPDK. It's standalone and > doesn't affect any of the core libraries. They're willing to maintain the > driver and h

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio?

2017-03-14 Thread O'Driscoll, Tim
I've included a couple of specific comments inline below, and a general comment here. We have somebody proposing to add a new driver to DPDK. It's standalone and doesn't affect any of the core libraries. They're willing to maintain the driver and have included a patch to update the maintainers

Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD vs virtio?

2017-03-14 Thread Vincent JARDIN
Allain, see inline, + I did restore the thread from http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2017-March/060087.html into the same email. To make it short, using ivshmem, you keep people unfocused from virtio. Vincent, Perhaps you can help me understand why the performance or functionality of AVP vs.

[dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/17] Wind River Systems AVP PMD

2017-03-13 Thread Allain Legacy
This patch series submits an initial version of the AVP PMD from Wind River Systems. The series includes shared header files, driver implementation, and changes to documentation files in support of this new driver. The AVP driver is a shared memory based device. It is intended to be used as a PM