Have you read this?
https://www.apache.org/foundation/getinvolved.html
From: Shiva Reddy Vanja
Reply: dev@community.apache.org
Date: January 5, 2023 at 23:36:00
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Help me to get started in contributing to open source projects
Hey iam a student, I have
On Wed, 2022-05-11 at 14:56 -0400, me wrote:
> This is more or less in line with what I think we’ve
anticipated. I
> really appreciate you providing the info.
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> That said… to outreach or not to outreach… that is the
question.
So ... I have been staying out of this convers
keep the name
On 2022-05-11 at 14:56:13 UTC-0400 (Wed, 11 May 2022 14:56:13 -0400)
me
is rumored to have said:
> The scenario w/ Jeep is the most synonymous to Apache. (We are named
> for a tribe, rather than a synonymous term or epithet). I’m side
> stepping the logo for t
Cherokee Nation did request a name change from Jeep.
- Jeep opened up talks, but they didn’t comply.
From: Roman Shaposhnik
Reply: Roman Shaposhnik
Date: May 9, 2022 at 09:52:47
To: me
Cc: ComDev
Subject: Re: A way to keep the name
On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 4:35 PM me wrote:
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@community.apache.org
Date: May 9, 2022 at 05:46:43
To: ComDev
Subject: Re: A way to keep the name
On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 6:54 PM me wrote:
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> Subject: Re: A way to keep the name
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> I think it's a good idea to make such a fund or simply make sure
That was someone’s opinion on a list. That is not
official.
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 6, 2022, at 12:14 PM, me <m...@emangini.com> wrote:
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> Our legal folks have responded (quickly!).
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> I’m quoting the recommendation here:
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> If someone wants to take ASF
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Ed
From: Owen Rubel
Reply: dev@community.apache.org
Date: May 6, 2022 at 12:24:54
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Naming/Branding: First Steps
Bravo. Brilliant.
Owen Rubel
oru...@gmail.com
On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 7:26 AM me wrote:
> Happy Friday/Saturday
ource you can reach out to? (Or is it something you’re willing to research
to compile some facts?)
From: me
Reply: me
Date: May 5, 2022 at 12:57:25
To: dev@community.apache.org , Owen Rubel
Subject: Re: A way to keep the name
Owen,
You’re conflating different aspects of the circumst
Owen,
You’re conflating different aspects of the circumstances.
(Are you not from the US? Sorry for my ignorance. I’m just trying to better
understand your position.)
1.) Business Risk.
Our brand name has a causal relationship with an indigenous people. Regardless
of our reputation or stat
ief technologist/architect). What would be the impact of a cease and desist
suit against the Apache trademark? How would this impact the Apache License? I
believe the projects under the license numbers in the tens of thousands.
Email is terrible for tone, so let me call out that I’m not suggestin
This was somewhat covered (at a much higher level). This falls into the
category of ‘association with permission’. It’s somewhere between
disassociation and what Jeep is doing (which is to determine if a problem
exists w/ the specific tribe.)
Each circumstance is unique. I looked through Jeep
of the effect can be achieved with 10% of the effort and time. I think
> "achievability" is a very important aspect of this discussion and I'd only
> appeal to the reason of people doing it (maybe including myself at some
> time) to be aware that going "full rebra
Bertrand, this is fantastic.
I’m more than happy to assist w/ a strategy, approach, prep and board preso.
Something that is worth mentioning up front is that whatever the outcome, there
are going to be protractors and detractors. Unanimous support is challenging to
achieve, and quite rare. Wh
NLY loose relation is the
Feather. And while it might be somewhat difficult for ASF old-timers
to part with it - but for those who came later it's nothing but an
icon/logo that could be potentially replaced with another logo without
much of an impact. Just the fact that when we think (or at
APACHE might stand for - we can even vote on some proposals
> > > there).
> > > * remove the Feather from the logo and replace it with something more
> > > abstract (yet another opportunity to get some members energized around
> > > proposing and voting for
ductive to poll about binary options as we wouldn't be
able to figure out which options may already be widely supported.
On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 4:10 PM Walter Cameron
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> I'm encouraged by the appetite for change expressed here, gunalchéesh to
> everyone f
y's tables.
That having been said, my gut tells me that the majority of The Foundation
members agree that the name is sub-optimal. People just don't know how to
fix it. IMO: The first step would be to break the change you are asking
for down into steps small enough that people can im
.
On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 12:48 PM Andrew Musselman wrote:
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> Copying them now.
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> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 9:46 AM me wrote:
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> > @Andrew,
> >
> > How do we engage the board?
> >
> >
> > Ed Mangini
> > m...@emangini.
@Andrew,
How do we engage the board?
Ed Mangini
m...@emangini.com
From: Andrew Musselman
Reply: dev@community.apache.org
Date: April 29, 2022 at 12:44:28
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: It’s time to change the name
On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 8:28 AM me wrote:
> And
as
insensitive, for example, and other changes balanced with feasibility and
community values.
Best
Andrew
On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 6:29 AM me wrote:
> @Christian
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> You’re very welcome! I think an internal poll has a great way of defining
> footholds. It’s going t
project that went through a name change and still has tons of
references to its old names due to compatibility issues.
On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 3:49 PM Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
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> On Thu, Apr 28, 2022, at 22:19, me wrote:
> > Christian,
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> > W
: It’s time to change the name
Hello,
On Thu, Apr 28, 2022, at 20:57, me wrote:
> The desire to make the change is definitely there. I echo Walter’s
> passion and statements.
+1
> I also agree w/ Sam that this isn’t going to be easy to accomplish.
+1
> Perhaps a st
their heads out of the sand and work to undo the harm
they’ve caused.
ASF’s brand violates its own CoC. You would think that might spur effort
for change by those perpetuating the harm, but if you want me to do the
work I’ll do whatever I can. I’m not that familiar with the details
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