Christian, Were you thinking of an internal poll? That’s actually a spectacular idea.
How do we go about kicking that off? Ed Mangini m...@emangini.com From: Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@apache.org> Reply: dev@community.apache.org <dev@community.apache.org> Date: April 28, 2022 at 15:43:04 To: dev@community.apache.org <dev@community.apache.org> Subject: Re: It’s time to change the name Hello, On Thu, Apr 28, 2022, at 20:57, me wrote: > The desire to make the change is definitely there. I echo Walter’s > passion and statements. +1 > I also agree w/ Sam that this isn’t going to be easy to accomplish. +1 > Perhaps a starting point would be to answer these questions in concert: > - what is the LOE to perform the rebranding/renaming? > - are there enough volunteers within the organization willing to participate? > > - what does the community think? > > I want to emphasize that this last question is a point of no return. If > we start creating surveys and asking about our brand, it’s going to > chum the waters. Agreed. I would have thought to make a poll in the community first- briefly explain the issue and see what the community (non-binding) vote is - just checking sentiments. I am afraid there will be a lot of headwinds. But based on the outcome one could decide if its more work to explain the issue or actually solve the issue. Also a quick poll could stir up some people who are interested in helping. Cheers, Christian > > > From: Walter Cameron <walter.li...@waltercameron.com> > Reply: dev@community.apache.org <dev@community.apache.org> > Date: April 28, 2022 at 01:29:03 > To: dev@community.apache.org <dev@community.apache.org> > Subject: Re: It’s time to change the name > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 6:40 PM Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote: > >> Walter: what are you personally willing to volunteer to do? What is >> your plan? What resources do you need? > > > Honestly Sam the extent of my plan was to bring attention to this issue and > the harms it’s caused. Beyond that I’m kinda winging it but I appreciate > your eagerness and openness to change. I had hoped I’d speak up, people > would finally pull their heads out of the sand and work to undo the harm > they’ve caused. > > ASF’s brand violates its own CoC. You would think that might spur effort > for change by those perpetuating the harm, but if you want me to do the > work I’ll do whatever I can. I’m not that familiar with the details of the > organization, surely not as familiar as one of its Directors, so in a lot > of ways I don’t fully understand the scope of what needs to be done, but > I’m willing to volunteer a few weekends of my rudimentary technical and > design skills to run a “Find & Replace…” and put together a new logo or > whatever you think would be helpful in this effort. I haven’t designed a > logo in probably 15 years but I’m willing to give it a try. > > I would have assumed that an organization with a paid staff and goals to > increase the diversity of its contributors and continue receiving corporate > donations would understand that the costs of inaction outweigh the costs of > action here. > > Let me know what else I can do to help. > > Walter --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
