On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 6:38 AM Rich Bowen wrote:
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> >> "However, having an idea of what red flags we're looking for
> >> in a project can be a helpful way to start looking for places to mentor,
> >> and sharpen, our projects."
> >>
> >> That is absolutely the wrong message to give. Who is "w
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> > Sharpeners use cases
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> >
> > Key: COMDEV-543
> > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-543
> > Project: Community Development
> > Issue Type
wrote:
> Thanks, Phil. Patches applied. This is all good stuff.
>
> —
> Rich Bowen
> rbo...@rcbowen.com
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 12, 2024, at 5:21 PM, Phil Steitz wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, last message got away from me. The point of the use cases is to
> get
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means? How is it impacting the community? Both "not a problem" and "yes,
this is a problem" examples could be added, as well as some info on what
the Sharpener is allowed to question / how deeply they should engage in
tweaking internal PMC processes.
Phil
On Mon, Feb 12, 2
OK, I added a brain dump on the use cases. This is in the spirit of "good
ideas, bad code" ;)
Phil
On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 2:06 PM Phil Steitz wrote:
> I just added a patch to the readme and to add me to the members list.
> Perfectly OK if the patch is rejected. I can see bo
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Phil Steitz updated COMDEV-543:
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Summary: Sharpeners use cases (was: Sharpeniers use cases)
> Sharpeners use ca
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Phil Steitz updated COMDEV-543:
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> Sharpeniers use ca
Phil Steitz created COMDEV-543:
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Summary: Sharpeniers use cases
Key: COMDEV-543
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-543
Project: Community Development
Issue Type: Improvement
I just added a patch to the readme and to add me to the members list.
Perfectly OK if the patch is rejected. I can see both sides of this. I
just want to be very careful not to encourage too much private discussion
and "community adjustment" happening without visibility or input of
community memb
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Phil Steitz updated COMDEV-542:
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> More public tone for sharpen
Phil Steitz created COMDEV-542:
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Summary: More public tone for sharpeners
Key: COMDEV-542
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-542
Project: Community Development
Issue Type
idea to get some rough consensus on
what is in/out of scope before we start this.
Phil
>
> Rich
>
> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024, 20:49 Phil Steitz wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Rich. I think we have been headed in this direction for some
> time
> > now and something like this is n
Thanks, Rich. I think we have been headed in this direction for some time
now and something like this is needed. Many thanks for coming up with a
concrete proposal.
I have one suggestion for improvement, which is in part a problem
statement. Instead of just subscribing to the private@ list, I w
Many thanks to all who worked on this!
Phil
On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 9:25 AM Melissa Logan wrote:
> Hello:
>
> The ASF Marketing & Publicity team has made updates to the navigation
> on the Foundation's website, as well as content updates to pages
> related to the navigation changes. The goal wa
+1 from another Commons contributor drowning in the flood of cruft on
commons-dev. Shorter subject lines would be great. I don't know if the
tooling would support or can be customized for Commons, but one thing that
would help would be to uniformly drop the word "Commons", so we go back to
what w
Hi Dimitrios,
Thanks for your interest in contributing. All of the components you
mention are part of Apache Commons, which has a single dev list. You
should post your query there.
To subscribe to that list, click the subscribe link in this page:
https://commons.apache.org/mail-lists.html
You
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 12:57 PM Mark Thomas wrote:
> On 21/06/2023 19:57, Jeff Jirsa wrote:
> > Member of the cassandra PMC, but responding here individually. I'm not
> actually sure I actually support the idea of an MVP program, but do want to
> point out that "PMC" has other special meaning:
>
I would be happy to assist with this, Sharan.
Phil
On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 9:04 AM Sharan Foga wrote:
> Hi Karanjeet
>
> Thanks for volunteering. We will need to identify you via your email
> address so I will use the one you are using here.You will need to log into
> the cfp system cfp.apachec
that and have friendly lawyers whom I trust with it, and
I run a business before, so I know you need to involve lawyers there. I am
sure that might be one of the obstacles for multiple individuals who would
like to set up similar, direct contracts with the stakeholders, but do not
know where to start a
On 3/4/22 11:28 AM, Jarek Potiuk wrote:
Definitely another good way to support projects. I think 2. and 3.
originating in user companies can actually help foster vendor neutrality
as these companies are really just users. Whether the people are
employees or contractors is not important. What
On 3/4/22 4:08 AM, Jarek Potiuk wrote:
1. We can all afford to volunteer our discretionary time as we see
fit. Not just rich or retired people have discretionary time.
2. Employers can support OSS communities by allowing their employees to
contribute as part of their jobs, but not in a "job
On 3/3/22 3:20 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
I'd like to see a better solution proposed for maintaining vendor
neutrality while funding the individuals working on the project. If
every workable solution is denied, then the only people who can afford
to work on Apache projects would be rich people, re
Really thoughtful and insightful message, Rich. I agree with your main
point and see kind of the same thing in the mirror. That said, I agree
with the requirements that Mark Thomas has posted several times (which
thankfully, are easily found in the list archives :). I have one comment
on dive
On 4/17/19 6:05 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 6:04 PM Joan Touzet wrote:
I'm generally in agreement with Rich, Jim, Shane, Sam and the other
"grey beards" who have responded on this thread already. We recognize
the individual, not the company, and the individual gets the merit.
On 1/13/19 7:13 AM, Sharan Foga wrote:
Hi All
A while ago I mentioned that I was doing a paper based on the ASF and the
Apache Way culture
https://s.apache.org/XLXi
Well it is done and for those of you not following the Kibble mailing list
(since I used Kibble as my main research tool :-), h
On 12/19/18 12:41 AM, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy wrote:
Hello everyone!
My name is Aizhamal and I joined the Open Source Strategy team at Google
Cloud. I will work with Gris Cuevas (g...@apache.org) on two main projects:
-
New Contributor Experience - I’ll develop resources that will help
On 8/3/18 6:17 AM, Daniel Ruggeri wrote:
Hi, all;
During my random and incoherent stumblings around the Internet I came
across a really great FAQ for discussion etiquette and figured I would share:
https://discourse.pi-hole.net/faq
I really don't have a call to action by sharing it, as I'm
On 3/26/18 8:09 AM, Isabel Drost-Fromm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> a couple weeks ago I was invited to give a talk on the Apache Way at
> Dataworks Summit here in Berlin mid-April.
>
> I would love to get a second pair of eyes check the stuff I've put together
> so I didn't include any non-sense nor forgot an
There is one guy...
Knows a few people here...
Doing "open, interesting stuff"...
Inspirational...
brian@
Phil
On 2/14/18 1:52 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> It's funny - sometimes when I mention keynotes on members@, I get
> a hundred suggestions, and sometimes - like this time - I get
> nothing at
Hi Lewis,
Did you build the snapshot jar yourself? If not, where did you get
it? Are you bundling the compiled jar with your distribution?
It would be much better to either upgrade to a released version (the
best alternative) or if that is too painful, grab the sources,
repackage them and incor
On 12/8/17 7:20 AM, Myrle Krantz wrote:
> Hi Isabel,
>
> Since sustainable development is very much in Apache's interest as a
> foundation, I believe this is an excellent idea.
>
> My first thoughts on where this could go:
> 1.) This belongs somewhere under https://community.apache.org
> 2.) It sho
On 8/10/17 11:04 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> On 8/10/2017 1:57 PM, fred bucheit wrote:
>> Someone at apache placed my name in an email bank so that all
>> apache emails
>>
>> come to me along with all the other recipients. It was done for
>> retribution because I complained.
>>
>>
>> Your email i
On 3/29/17 6:32 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 2:03 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
>> ...it speaks of "3 +1 and no vetoes"... Is it really
>> "typical" that projects use vetoes for new committers?...
> I like the "vetoes are only for code commits" rule that
> https://www.apach
On 1/21/17 8:57 AM, Phil Steitz wrote:
> On 1/21/17 3:31 AM, Scott Wilson wrote:
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> When I taught a first year undergraduate course on FOSS the major syllabus
>> topics were:
>>
>> - Community
>> - Communications
>> -
will also plan to spend a class each on build tools and
>> dependency management as those are both great tooics to include.
>> --
>> Daniel Ruggeri
>>
>>
>> Original Message
>> From: Phil Steitz
>> Sent: January 18, 2017 8:06:48 AM CST
;> terminology. I will also plan to spend a class each on build tools and
>> dependency management as those are both great tooics to include.
>> --
>> Daniel Ruggeri
>>
>>
>> Original Message
>> From: Phil Steitz
>> Sent: January 18
On 1/18/17 8:03 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> Hi Raphael,
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Raphael Bircher
> wrote:
>> ...Why ASF dosen't found Developers?. Some people say, because to non-profit
>> status. Others say, this are our rules
> "These are our rules" would be a bad answer IMO
On 1/17/17 10:58 AM, Phil Steitz wrote:
> On 1/16/17 5:14 PM, Daniel Ruggeri wrote:
>> Hi, all;
>>
>> Digging up "ancient" history on this one
>>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/28c8decf60ec3c79c97a62c936ec9b816da841eb3fb655144dd219b
On 1/16/17 5:14 PM, Daniel Ruggeri wrote:
> Hi, all;
>
> Digging up "ancient" history on this one
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/28c8decf60ec3c79c97a62c936ec9b816da841eb3fb655144dd219ba@1430955768@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E
>
>
> I'm happy to share that tomorrow begins the first d
On 10/26/16 7:06 AM, Isabel Drost-Fromm wrote:
Thanks for sharing this, Isabel. I have a similar kind of personal
comment below, but I have to first say that my immediate reaction
reading about your experience was how lucky we are that you managed
to make it to that Acon :) Please thank that per
On 10/26/16 11:07 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> I added an initial stats page at
> https://projects.apache.org/statistics.html - assuming no one objects,
> I'll add it to the top menu of the other pages in a day or so.
>
> Do peruse - anything we need to add/edit?
Maven is not a programming language.
On 9/29/16 6:25 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 3:33 AM, Mark Thomas wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> After a discussion on the general@incubator.a.o mailing list [1], I'd
>> like to propose the following addition to the project maturity model.
>>
>> RE50
>> The release process is doc
che Community Dev
>>> Betreff: Re: Getting planetapache back
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Phil Steitz
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 5/31/16 4:31 AM, Nick Burch wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2016, Phil Steitz wrote:
>>>>>
On 5/31/16 4:31 AM, Nick Burch wrote:
> On Mon, 30 May 2016, Phil Steitz wrote:
>> I will take a shot at getting it running if I can get help
>> getting a VM or host somewhere to set it up on and DNS set up to
>> point to it. Any suggestions on where to put it?
>
> How
On 5/30/16 6:12 PM, Phil Steitz wrote:
> The blog aggregator that used to be serve from
> http://planet.apache.org/ is now defunct. It was running from
> minotaur, the old p.a.o box and as minotaur is being prepared for
> retirement, the service has been shut down. There are l
The blog aggregator that used to be serve from
http://planet.apache.org/ is now defunct. It was running from
minotaur, the old p.a.o box and as minotaur is being prepared for
retirement, the service has been shut down. There are links to this
service scattered throughout the apache web site, most
On 2/2/15 11:47 AM, jan i wrote:
> On 2 February 2015 at 19:30, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
>> Agreed!
>>
>> Also, after all is said and done, and Rich has some
>> time to breathe, I'd like to know just how helpful LF
>> was this time around. From the sidelines, it seems that
>> they really didn't do a
On 1/18/15 5:53 AM, Claude Warren wrote:
> I prefer the mailing list because it pushes new concepts to me. Git and
> such requires that I work harder to get the information. Most of the
> Apache mailing lists have a high signal to noise ratio. And even the
> signals I am not interested in don't
On 1/15/15 7:32 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There were several comments about QU40 in the
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ApacheProjectMaturityModel draft,
> which currently reads
>
> QU40
> The project puts a high priority on backwards compatibility and aims
> to document
>
On 1/15/15 3:39 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Phil Steitz wrote:
>> ...Missing Q or C thing:
>>
>> The project is not dead. Bugs do not sit forever with no response.
>> Questions get answered on user lists...
> Thanks - I have reo
On 1/15/15 3:47 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Phil Steitz wrote:
>> ...QO30 - do we really want individual projects to have / advertise
>> their own ways to take security reports?...
> We do not want that, agreed, but as I want the model to
On 1/14/15 8:22 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> wrote:
>> Creating such a model has been on my todo list for ages...
> I've written a first draft at
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ApacheProjectMaturityModel
>
> I tried to take the
> On Jul 8, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
> The idea of CTR is that the repo that the commit is made
> to is not in the direct path to a release. Thus, one
> can commit to the repo/branch as a sort of shared sandbox.
Not necessarily. Some projects do CTR right up to release tags.
> On Jul 8, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Justin Mclean wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> Typically in the Apache projects, committers (folks elected by the project
>> who have commit
>> privileges) have binding vetoes.
>
> Actually the default is that only PMC members can veto code changes see under
> "Binding vote
On 3/17/14, 6:42 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> I could use some help on these. Can someone suggest what
> tags/labels/tracks should be associated with the first three of
> these? (I can guess the fourth one.)
If there is any possibility of tweaking labels, we might consider
changing "logging / nosql" to
Many, many thanks to all who helped get the talks reviewed and
schedule set.
I was in a hurry preparing the abstract for my talk to hit the
deadline. I would like to tweak the abstract a little, but the site
does not let me do that. I bet some others may want to do some
edits to theirs too. Is
On 2/12/14, 7:23 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Phil Steitz wrote:
>
>> I know this looks old-fashioned, even downright anachronistic to
>> "push-hourly-from-CI" people; but deciding *what* to release *as a
>> community* is an im
On 2/11/14, 11:04 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Joseph Schaefer
> wrote:
>> The core question for me is do we want to continue
>> down this path of attempting to be all things to
>> all people with no common culture or values or processes,
>> or is there a floor so
On 2/10/14, 3:05 PM, Joseph Schaefer wrote:
> Frankly the notion that there is empirical evidence that
> the standard Apache process is “too slow and buggy” is a straw man.
> I have over a decade of personal anecdotal evidence watching
> Apache projects self-improve and serve the needs of their
> c
Responding to the right list...
Original Message
Subject:Re: Content Committee, ApacheCon 2014
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 14:18:42 -0800
From: Phil Steitz
To: priv...@commons.apache.org
On 12/12/13, 11:52 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> Dear PMCs,
>
> In the co
On 9/6/13 7:53 AM, Luciano Resende wrote:
> The ICFOSS is planning a conference in India in early December, and wanted
> to offer us an Apache Track in the conference.
Where in India?
Phil
>
> The format of the conference is usually as follows (there could be some
> variation from this):
>
> Day
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