On 12/8/17 7:20 AM, Myrle Krantz wrote: > Hi Isabel, > > Since sustainable development is very much in Apache's interest as a > foundation, I believe this is an excellent idea. > > My first thoughts on where this could go: > 1.) This belongs somewhere under https://community.apache.org > 2.) It should come "early" in the intro to open source development. > So maybe here: https://community.apache.org/newcomers/ ? > 3.) It's important enough to link to from the first community page, > maybe under or with the code of conduct?
+1 - whatever we can pull together belongs here. Some general narrative on "volunteeritis" and how to stay sane would likely be helpful, but what would be really cool is if we could somehow organize some more interactive, personal support for volunteers in need. I would love to see some health services provider(s) step up to offer pro bono services to volunteers and even communities going through difficult times. I don't think we have ever tried to recruit anyone to help us in this area. Does anyone have ideas? Does anyone know of organizations who are offering counseling services to OSS developers? We could at least include links to these if we can find them. Personally, I agree with the intent of the German law (IIUC what Isabel is saying below) that employers are responsible for mental as well as physical problems that their employees encounter as a result of their employment. As a foundation, I think we should strive to make sure that we have a net positive impact on the lives of our volunteers. I know a lot of us are here because of that "positive impact." Most of us have also been through periods where the impact swung into the negative. Just by acknowledging that its important, and watching for the warning signs in ourselves and others, we can make a big difference. Thanks for raising this, Sharan, Isabel and Myrle. Phil > > But I'm still fairly new to comdev. Who else has an opinion about > where this belongs? > > Best Regards, > Myrle > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Isabel Drost-Fromm <isa...@apache.org> > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Last week at FOSS Backstage one of the topics Sharan discussed in her talk >> was IIRC the responsibility that comes with running an and participating in >> an open source project. One of the topics related to keeping an eye on your >> own well being as well as on your peers. >> >> At Apache we have a couple resources that warn against things like >> volunteeritis, over committing and the like. I'm not sure how visible these >> are, also I'm not sure if Apache projects in general are aware of the topic >> of mental health. >> >> IANAL, but AFAIK at least in Germany, mental health legally is treated the >> same way as physical health when it comes to employer liability (someone >> with better "legal English" skills, please correct my wording). While we are >> not an employer, would it make sense to offer some material on the topic to >> community members? I would guess that we wouldn't need to produce any new >> content, but maybe just link to and endorse existing stuff we already have? >> (Maybe we already do that, it's been a while since I was a new committer >> reading through the getting started docs, so anyone who is new - feedback >> welcome.) >> >> Isabel >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Gerät mit K-9 Mail gesendet. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org