I've only been partially following, and I hear and respect the desire for
"quality control", but IMO, people talk about Apache all of the time in other
events. For example, when Flex joined the incubator in January 2012, there was
a Flex user conference shortly after in April 2012. I spoke the
And that's why I suggested required disclaimers. Big events have disclaimers.
That way, Apache is not endorsing their message as 100% accurate on behalf of
the foundation, just their attempt to get the message out. Sounds like Rich
will make sure there is some ASF-experienced people involved,
From the peanut gallery: IMO, without a formal training/certification program,
what even an ASF Member understands about the Apache Way, not to mention
committers who are not members, is up for grabs. It is essentially the party
game "telephone" where one person says something to another perso
Hi Bertrand,
Your link took me to a post about splitting lists because some list is busy,
but AIUI, this proposal for iot@ is to communicate between related projects.
Does the ASF have an example of a cross-project list that failed?
Thanks,
-Alex
On 6/7/19, 4:34 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz" wr
code are already in NOTICE files.
Please educate me.
Thanks,
-Alex
On 4/19/19, 6:15 AM, "Sam Ruby" wrote:
On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 8:03 AM Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
> > On Apr 19, 2019, at 1:06 AM, Alex Harui mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID>> wrote:
&
From the peanut gallery:
IMO, big corporations have enough money to get their names out there and
influence projects if they want to. So, it might be the best use of time to
find ways to limit the impact on the projects instead of trying to prevent them
from using their names. The ASF tends t
On 3/22/19, 12:04 AM, "Roman Shaposhnik" wrote:
It would be very important to come up with a replacement that is
as effective as what we're trying to replace. Frankly, I don't know
a single candidate.
Does anyone?
Do-ocracy - I think we've used this word before to des
gt; What was that code drop from SGI a symptom of?
>
> What did Robert Thau do (or not do), before during or after to ensure the
success of httpd?
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
>
> On Sat 20. Oct 2018 at 00:28 Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>
>> I w
IMO, the issue isn't about large code drops. Some will be ok.
The issue is about significant collaboration off-list about anything, not just
code.
My 2 cents,
-Alex
On 10/19/18, 1:32 PM, "James Dailey" wrote:
+1 on this civil discourse.
I would like to offer that sometimes larg
Hi ComDev,
Our new PMC chair was confused by reporter.a.o saying that our board report is
due on 6/20. I suppose technically it is, but maybe some language should be
added to say that reports should/must be filed a week earlier?
Thoughts?
-Alex
Just to throw a different opinion out there, I wouldn't mind reading and
deleting as many as a dozen marketing-type emails per year if it got the
ASF's name out in front of people that don't already know about us, or
made the ASF appear like a friendly, collegial, foundation.
We might require appr
On 4/20/17, 10:14 AM, "William Li" wrote:
>Thanks Ted. No worries on the commitment side. Either way I'd start
>learning and contributing.
>
>If there are ways to check contributions by companies, it could be a
>win-win for both the individuals and the companies who are sponsoring.
Hi William,
On 12/21/16, 12:10 PM, "William A Rowe Jr" wrote:
>On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
>
>>
>> On 12/21/16, 11:05 AM, "Pierre Smits" wrote:
>>
>> >To much work? For whom? In what period?
>> >Does is require a combin
;
>OFBiz based solutions & services
>
>OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
>On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 6:56 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 12/21/16, 9:01 AM, "Rich Bowen" wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
On 12/21/16, 9:01 AM, "Rich Bowen" wrote:
>
>
>On 12/21/2016 08:32 AM, A. Soroka wrote:
>> Not to say that this isn't a good first step, but that is definitely
>>not going to capture a lot of important engagement. At Apache Jena we
>>recently elected an excellent committer who has never made a
On 12/20/16, 6:47 PM, "Matthew Sacks" wrote:
>Alex, what does this have anything to do with diversity?
I (and maybe others) want to eliminate the argument that the response rate
was too low to be used to draw conclusions. See [1].
Thinking about this more, we might also want to factor in any
On 12/20/16, 8:11 AM, "Rich Bowen" wrote:
>
>
>On 12/19/2016 08:36 AM, Sharan F wrote:
>> Hello Everyone
>>
>> A big thank you to everyone that has helped or participated in getting
>> the Committer Diversity Survey out, and also to all the committers that
>> responded to the survey. It has be
On 12/6/16, 3:36 AM, "Rich Bowen" wrote:
>On Dec 6, 2016 6:10 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz"
>wrote:
>
>I hope we agree on that and I think we do, I'm just slightly worried
>that your initiative might be interpreted in the wrong way.
>
>I am confident that my initiative will be interpreted the wrong
IMO, rather than gathering statistics, it would be better to gather
stories, tips and advice. It doesn't seem to me that statistics would be
helpful, folks just need to know that it can have great benefits or great
cost and some ideas of the reasons why. Even if it hasn't been helpful in
the past
On 11/15/16, 9:03 AM, "Patricia Shanahan" wrote:
>That should be "example of undesirable behavior". One could obviously
>write a rule that prohibits using words with more than three syllables
>in e-mails.
Personally, I don't think "rules", "standards" and "policies" are in play
here. The CoC
On 8/17/16, 1:00 AM, "Sharan Foga" wrote:
>Hi
>
>It sounds like there are mixed feelings about allowing this so I will
>respond back to them saying that we'd prefer that they don't distribute
>any ASF material.
From the peanut gallery: HW seems to be a big sponsor of the ASF. Either
some in
On 5/23/16, 12:18 PM, "tamaonakah...@gmail.com"
wrote:
Snip...
> Members who receive a great deal of generosity during their growth are
>likely to pay it forward.
I found your entire email (most of which I snipped) to be very
informative. Thank you for taking the time to write.
-Alex
Also, not specific to software: http://leanin.org
HTH,
-Alex
On 5/23/16, 6:36 AM, "Patricia Shanahan" wrote:
>Systers, http://anitaborg.org/get-involved/systers/
>
>More generally, the Wikipedia article on "Women in Computing",
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_computing, has some possibl
On 5/21/16, 4:29 PM, "Patricia Shanahan" wrote:
>Good points. Unfortunately, the projects in which I'm currently active
>are not very beginner-friendly.
>
>Could people suggest a few projects that would benefit from, and be able
>to use, relatively inexperienced programmers right now?
Apache Fl
On 5/20/16, 5:26 AM, "Sharan Foga" wrote:
>>>Hi All
>>>
>>> I'm interested in finding out how we could encourage more women to
>>> participate on Apache projects. It's a discussion topic that came up
>>>last
>>> week while I was at Apachecon. My understanding is that we don't have
>>>any
>>> cur
Hi Rich,
I'm on the road with limited internet so I haven't looked, but when are
reviews due?
Thanks,
-Alex
On 2/17/16, 1:51 PM, "Rich Bowen" wrote:
>By now, you should have received email from the ApacheCon CFP system
>with your system credentials. Note that the email was rather confusingly
>
Hi Rich,
Are there going to be tracks and track chairs? I'm interested in seeing a
track on Client-side topics and am willing to help review talks relating
to that. If the reviewers need to be Apache-wide, I am probably not be
best person for that.
Thanks,
-Alex
On 2/13/16, 3:57 AM, "Rich Bowe
Hi,
What is the appropriate list for discussing possible tracks for ApacheCon?
Some Apache projects, like Flex and Cordova, are more oriented to clients,
applications and front-ends than server-side, backend code. For this
year's ApacheCon in Vancouver, Flex and Cordova want to propose a track
f
;
>On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Roman Shaposhnik
>wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Alex Harui wrote:
>>>
>>> My initial instinct is that per-language mailing lists aren't a good
>>>idea.
>>> But I would not require that folks post in
On 11/21/15, 7:06 PM, "William A Rowe Jr" wrote:
>That was my reaction. A dev-cn@community.apache. org could be a useful
>discussion vehicle to engage prospects and help with facilitating that
>engagement. It wouldn't look all that much different than the usual
>English Q&A here on dev@c a o.
IMO, I believe history does repeat itself, and that there are pendulums
and cycles, but I think the dynamic here is more linear. Now I certainly
haven’t been involved with open source and Apache for very long, but
having met Roy and heard him describe why Apache was founded and how it
was supposed
On 7/16/15, 7:24 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote:
>OK. Thanks for the info.
>
>I might try subsetting the information to not grab the release info and
>run a job once a day to cache the latest for my project on some other
>server. I’ll reply back on this thread if I ever get it
On 8/20/15, 5:27 PM, "William A Rowe Jr" wrote:
>It is generally AL code all the time. I don't know where you invented a
>'kick-in' concept, but unless the committers are violating their
>ICLA/CCLA,
>nothing could be further from the truth.
Committers sometimes make mistakes. IIRC, Justin re
On 8/20/15, 9:26 AM, "Benson Margulies" wrote:
>
>However, a quick search reveals that there are precisely zero
>occurrences of the word 'release' in version 2.0 of the Apache
>License.
>
>So, I don't know what Jim meant by 'licenses kick in at release', but
>my view is that putting source in a
>
>
>On 05/01/2015 05:32 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
>> This is a really cool service. I noticed it wants login creds. What
>>data
>> would have to be stripped in order to allow general public access? What
>> would it take to get the JSON for the public info? I’ll write
On 6/25/15, 7:18 AM, "hedh...@gmail.com on behalf of Niclas Hedhman"
wrote:
>If the "format" is published, and the "reward" of following it would be
>that the reporter picks it up automatically, it could lead to swift
>adoption ;-)
You might get push back about having to change naming schemes.
This is a really cool service. I noticed it wants login creds. What data
would have to be stripped in order to allow general public access? What
would it take to get the JSON for the public info? I’ll write the client
side in Apache Flex.
Thanks,
-Alex
On 3/5/15, 1:39 AM, "Daniel Gruno" wrot
On 3/23/15, 2:39 AM, "Pierre Smits" wrote:
>
>If one of its principles or boundaries is community over code and if the
>ASF wants that the diversity within the communities of it projects is
>reflected in the group of committers and in PMC, how can it then be that a
>PMC may have it different and
If person A ‘can’t work’ with person B, in the nomination discussion, if
person A is a reasonable person and sees overwhelming support for person
B, person A should simply vote +0 and try to avoid person B. It isn’t
like you all work in the same physical office. Once a group of people
gets large
when it comes to people. And it doesn't seem to fit in he Apache
>Way.
>
>Best regards
>
>
>
>Pierre Smits
>
>*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>Based Manufacturing, Professional
>Services and Retail & Tra
Consensus Approval works great until you have someone who others rightly
or wrongly perceive as an obstructionist. Then it just makes the whole
project the loser.
At least one project uses majority approval for new members, but a serious
attempt is made to make sure that the vote is unanimous any
I think Bertrand’s document is coming along nicely.
This is half serious and half for fun, but while it will be great to have
a maturity model and top-level authoritative documents on the Apache Way,
to me, what would also help is a way to make important things memorizable.
I sure hope I don’t ha
On 1/15/15, 9:46 AM, "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)"
wrote:
>Where are you seeing "discouragement of pilot projects"?
In the tone and content of the responses on this thread, including this
one where it feels to me you are again using the maintenance and training
costs to make it seem highly unl
On 1/15/15, 6:35 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz" wrote:
>On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
>> ...*historically*, when this kind of thing has happened (project
>>implements,
>> thing becomes critical), gradually it becomes the responsibility of
>>Infra,
>> not of the project, to do o
uch a PoC..
>
>Best regards,
>
>Pierre Smits
>
>*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>Based Manufacturing, Professional
>Services and Retail & Trade
>http://www.orrtiz.com
>
>On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Alex
I’m way outside my area of knowledge, but is there anything stopping the
OFBiz community from getting an ASF Azure box and trying to prototype
something?
-Alex
On 1/14/15, 10:46 AM, "Pierre Smits" wrote:
>You are correct. And I am aware that budgets are limitied. But I don't
>what
>the budget w
My (more than) 2 cents on this topic. It's going to be really interesting to
see how the board decides on this sort of thing.
Your plan is completely logical. Plenty of business operate this way like
newspapers and car manufacturers. Everybody knows when the next "release" is.
Car manufactu
IMO, a more important question is: Does it fit within the "Apache Way" of
"Community over Code" to have a project release on a particular schedule?
Because it feels to me that if you have a release cadence then you are saying
"Clock over Community".
I get that having a schedule helps many in
ity about git every day in the Flex
community. I doubt we will go back to SVN.
I'm not sure it is worth blogging it. The draft of the report is captured
on the dev@flex.a.o archives so it is public and searchable.
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
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