Re: Community-run MVP programs at the ASF

2023-06-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 6:15 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...A project should give a commit bit to anyone who is currently committed to > the project +1, and "being committed" does not necessarily mean "committing code", there are other ways to be committed to a project. -Bertrand ---

Re: Community-run MVP programs at the ASF

2023-06-22 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Is seems to me the real issue here is that the commit bar for the Cassandra project is too high. Reduce it, and you don’t need MVP programs or anything similar. Calling it an Ambassador program doesn’t make it better. Calling it “Cassandra Ambassador Program” is even worse as that implies i

Re: Community-run MVP programs at the ASF

2023-06-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 3:09 PM Gary Gregory wrote: > > ...If we adopt a badge system, I hope it can be automated (a la github), > because I don't want to spend time reading or voting on who gets what badge... Again, nobody is talking about *requiring* ASF projects to do anything, what we're disc

Re: Community-run MVP programs at the ASF

2023-06-22 Thread Gary Gregory
If we adopt a badge system, I hope it can be automated (a la github), because I don't want to spend time reading or voting on who gets what badge. Gary On Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 07:33 Daniel Gruno wrote: > On 2023-06-21 19:55, Melissa Logan wrote: > > Hello CommDev people: > > > > Is there preceden

Re: Community-run MVP programs at the ASF

2023-06-22 Thread Jarek Potiuk
Good point Daniel. I like this perspective. On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 1:33 PM Daniel Gruno wrote: > On 2023-06-21 19:55, Melissa Logan wrote: > > Hello CommDev people: > > > > Is there precedent at ASF for a community-run MVP program? If not, would > > anyone like to collaborate on this to help pr

Re: Community-run MVP programs at the ASF

2023-06-22 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 2023-06-21 19:55, Melissa Logan wrote: Hello CommDev people: Is there precedent at ASF for a community-run MVP program? If not, would anyone like to collaborate on this to help provide guidance to ASF projects? And is CommDev the right place? In a recent Cassandra Marketing Working Group mee

Re: Community-run MVP programs at the ASF

2023-06-22 Thread Jarek Potiuk
Agree (I believe :) - at least this is my interpretation of what they say) with Bertrand, Phil, Mark. It does not sound like you need to have ASF or PMCs for that. I think each of our communities can have their own way of communicating and promoting behaviours and good things. I see no particular

Re: Community-run MVP programs at the ASF

2023-06-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 12:44 PM Gary Gregory wrote: > ...Badges are fun, sure, but is that how we want to spend our energy?... I'm not saying projects should do badges, what I'm saying is that iff a project wants to celebrate specific contributors achievements, badges might be a good idea. And t

Re: Community-run MVP programs at the ASF

2023-06-22 Thread Gary Gregory
A badge needs a place to put it and we aren't github where your profile page displays badges. I don't think we want to invent profile pages for Apache just to display badges. And your ~userid page is not the right place for that I think since users could put up any kind of image. Badges are fun, su

Re: Community-run MVP programs at the ASF

2023-06-22 Thread Matthew O'Brien
I have yet to contribute on the coding side of things as I am still learning, yet I agree with the above "badge" style system as being something that encourages active engagement and is still egalitarian in nature as it facilitates all contributors to remain equal (as opposed to the dichotomised

Re: Community-run MVP programs at the ASF

2023-06-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 12:39 AM Phil Steitz wrote: > ...I strongly disagree with the idea of designating "MVPs" at any level in the > ASF... Same here, I object to having "most valuable" titles in ASF projects, as it can be understood to mean others are less valuable. It's probably a cultural t