Agree (I believe :) - at least this is my interpretation of what they say)
with Bertrand, Phil, Mark.

It does not sound like you need to have ASF or PMCs for that. I think each
of our communities can have their own way of communicating and promoting
behaviours and good things. I see no particular reason why it should become
an "official" ASF program. We want our communities to be self-driven
without adding extra procedures and processes, defined and "official" at
the top level, "ASF badge" and effectively a new ASF recognised
"contributor level".

For example we have a community driven (not PMC driven) monthly newsletter
where we have "PR of the month". People in the community run a vote every
month with some candidates and community members on the devlist can vote
and propose their own and then the PR of the month is mentioned in the
newsletter. We used to have "contributor of the month" for some time where
there were micro-interviews with the contributor. All those things are
great for the engagement (the discussions on PR of the month are sometimes
more interesting than the result of the vote).

None of those are PMC-driven, they are community driven and they require
neither a blessing nor structured programs that would give them the
official PMC "endorsement". There are ways you can surface the valuable
contributions already without giving an "official" badge for that.

J.

On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 1:02 PM Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org>
wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 12:44 PM Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > ...Badges are fun, sure, but is that how we want to spend our energy?...
>
> I'm not saying projects should do badges, what I'm saying is that iff
> a project wants to celebrate specific contributors achievements,
> badges might be a good idea. And the project has to do the work then,
> of course.
>
> For projects which have team pages such as [1], publishing badges isn't
> hard.
>
> -Bertrand
>
> [1] https://sling.apache.org/project-information/project-team.html
>
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