Good point Daniel. I like this perspective. On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 1:33 PM Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 2023-06-21 19:55, Melissa Logan wrote: > > Hello CommDev people: > > > > Is there precedent at ASF for a community-run MVP program? If not, would > > anyone like to collaborate on this to help provide guidance to ASF > > projects? And is CommDev the right place? > > > > In a recent Cassandra Marketing Working Group meeting (1) we discussed > the > > idea of a community-hosted MVP program that adheres to ASF governance. > MVP > > programs reward people who are actively contributing to/promoting a > project > > by designating them as "MVPs" and listing them on community channels > (e.g. > > project website). It's a great way to get people onboarded/involved, > > recruit committers, and grow awareness for a project. This would also > > create more opportunities for non-code contributions to a project. > > > > MVP would be a non-governing body (2); one would need to re-apply or be > > nominated annually. > > > > Each PMC would have to approve of the MVP program and be part of the MVP > > Committee to select MVPs each year. For the first year, the committee > > would include at least one PMC member, 3-5 active contributors that will > be > > selected by the PMC member(s), and a program lead. In subsequent years, > the > > committee would include PMC member(s), previous MVPs, and a program lead. > > > > Doc below (3); feedback would be much appreciated. If you can't access > it, > > let me know and I'll find another way to share. Thank you! > > > > (1) > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/2023-06-07+Meeting > > (2) https://www-paulau.staged.apache.org/foundation/governance/ > > (3) > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/19sExbQFMBvEJPjE_YaZNZAp54I14Ez0sooybqm800qA/edit# > > > > I have no problem with badges/milestones or other "egalitarian" > approaches to recognize merits, and I do believe there has been some > talks in comdev earlier about some sort of universal badge system for > committers as a fun (emphasis on fun!) community challenge. > > I do however strongly dislike the term "MVP", I find it in the same > category as "rock star developer" or "10x engineer". Not alone does it > very clearly favor those that work professionally on a project as part > of their dayjob (as opposed to the hobbyists that essentially founded > this foundation), it is also quite often extremely myopic. How does one > define an MVP? Most commits/PRs? or is it most work done relative to the > time allotted? absolute effort or effort relative to skill set? How does > development stack up against envangelism? > > While you can form a group to work out the process, the end result, the > "MVP" title will always be misleading unless you have tens of footnotes > explaining what it really means. > > My two cents would be to stick to a simpler, less opinionated > recognition system if a project really must have one. Have the badge or > achievement title strictly refer to the achievement criteria - nothing > less, nothing more. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >
