Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-04 Thread Walter Cameron
> members of the Apache Nation (defined by the eight tribes) Choosing to use federal recognition as the litmus test for eligibility will exclude many impacted by ASF’s appropriation of the term. There are also state recognized tribes such as the Choctaw-Apache Community of Ebarb who don’t yet hav

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-04 Thread me
This was somewhat covered (at a much higher level).  This falls into the category of ‘association with permission’. It’s somewhere between disassociation and what Jeep is doing (which is to determine if a problem exists w/ the specific tribe.)  Each circumstance is unique. I looked through Jeep

Re: Idea: Monthly Members Moment/Critical Committer Communications

2022-05-04 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Thank you - I will make sure to add a bullet point to the next draft. On Tue, May 3, 2022, at 12:38, Jarek Potiuk wrote: > And re: Christian - privacy policy is important :). We can even say that > some PMCs already converted to Matomo and we wait for others to catch up > (peer-pressure :D). > J.

A way to keep the name

2022-05-04 Thread Andrew Wetmore
Hi, all. We have a very long thread on the possibility of changing the name of our foundation, and the complex work involved. I may have missed it in the back-and-forth, but is there not another way forward? What if we established an offering of value to members of the Apache Nation (defined by t

Re: It’s time to change the name

2022-05-04 Thread me
"Emphasize to empathize” feels like a DEI T-Shirt! :) Ed Mangini m...@emangini.com From: Jarek Potiuk Reply: dev@community.apache.org Date: May 4, 2022 at 12:22:46 To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: Bertrand Delacretaz , Andrew Musselman Subject:  Re: It’s time to change the name Emphasis

Re: It’s time to change the name

2022-05-04 Thread Jarek Potiuk
Emphasise - Empathise of course :) On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 6:17 PM Jarek Potiuk wrote: > Cool. > > I am not really convinced by the total ~ 1 % of the "Trillions" movie > where the scenery is mostly with Greg recorded apparently close to the > place where he lives - in Austin Texas. Yeah I know -

Re: It’s time to change the name

2022-05-04 Thread Jarek Potiuk
Cool. I am not really convinced by the total ~ 1 % of the "Trillions" movie where the scenery is mostly with Greg recorded apparently close to the place where he lives - in Austin Texas. Yeah I know - it sets the tone maybe and the music is a bit suggestive. But (at least when I look at it) it's m

Re: It’s time to change the name

2022-05-04 Thread me
Bertrand, this is fantastic.  I’m more than happy to assist w/ a strategy, approach, prep and board preso.  Something that is worth mentioning up front is that whatever the outcome, there are going to be protractors and detractors. Unanimous support is challenging to achieve, and quite rare. Wh

Re: Idea: Monthly Members Moment/Critical Committer Communications

2022-05-04 Thread Jarek Potiuk
Agree. Makes perfect sense Bertrand. The reason for members-notify@ is very clearly stated in the minutes and it's not that :). J. On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 10:26 AM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > -Hi, > > Le mar. 3 mai 2022 à 19:31, Craig Russell a écrit : > > I could not find where we decided wh

Re: It’s time to change the name

2022-05-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, (Bcc people who have been active in the wiki page mentioned below) Le ven. 29 avr. 2022 à 16:14, Andrew Musselman a écrit : > ...Can I propose an outreach to some Apache tribe governments so we can open a > dialog with them directly, and start to understand what their official > experience o

Re: Idea: Monthly Members Moment/Critical Committer Communications

2022-05-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
-Hi, Le mar. 3 mai 2022 à 19:31, Craig Russell a écrit : > I could not find where we decided whether to use members@ or members-notify@ but I approved it. > If anyone objects to the mail list, we can have that discussion for next time I do object to using members-notify@ for those news, as