Re: [Collections] Generic Fork

2010-11-07 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:33 AM, wrote: > > - "Henri Yandell" a écrit : > >> Though depends on what you're submitting. JIRA issues, no worries. >> Just hit the checkbox each time you add a patch. >> >> If you become a committer, or if you're submitting something large, >> then we will ask you

[g...@vmgump]: Project commons-email (in module apache-commons) failed

2010-11-07 Thread Gump
To whom it may engage... This is an automated request, but not an unsolicited one. For more information please visit http://gump.apache.org/nagged.html, and/or contact the folk at gene...@gump.apache.org. Project commons-email has an issue affecting its community integration. This issue

[g...@vmgump]: Project commons-vfs (in module apache-commons) failed

2010-11-07 Thread Gump
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[g...@vmgump]: Project commons-scxml-test (in module apache-commons) failed

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[g...@vmgump]: Project commons-jelly-tags-quartz (in module commons-jelly) failed

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[g...@vmgump]: Project commons-proxy-test (in module apache-commons) failed

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Komogorov distribution WASF Re: [jira] Commented: (MATH-431) New tests: Wilcoxon signed-rank test and Mann-Whitney U

2010-11-07 Thread Phil Steitz
Switching to the right list... - What we need there is a good algorithm for approximating the KS distribution. I have been corresponding with the author of a very good one with a Java implementation but have thus far failed in getting consent to release under ASL. So at this point, I am looki

Re: Komogorov distribution WASF Re: [jira] Commented: (MATH-431) New tests: Wilcoxon signed-rank test and Mann-Whitney U

2010-11-07 Thread Mikkel Meyer Andersen
2010/11/7 Phil Steitz : > Switching to the right list... > > - What we need there is a good algorithm for approximating the KS distribution.  I have been corresponding with the author of a very good one with a Java implementation but have thus far failed in getting consent

Re: Komogorov distribution WASF Re: [jira] Commented: (MATH-431) New tests: Wilcoxon signed-rank test and Mann-Whitney U

2010-11-07 Thread Phil Steitz
On 11/7/10 10:10 AM, Mikkel Meyer Andersen wrote: 2010/11/7 Phil Steitz: Switching to the right list... - What we need there is a good algorithm for approximating the KS distribution. I have been corresponding with the author of a very good one with a Java implementation but have thus far fa

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0

2010-11-07 Thread sebb
On 7 November 2010 02:17, Gary Gregory wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Henning Schmiedehausen [mailto:henn...@schmiedehausen.org] >> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 19:03 >> To: Commons Developers List >> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0 >> >> +1 >> >> - I don't think th

Fwd: [SANSELAN] Status and future of Sanselan?

2010-11-07 Thread Henri Yandell
Pointing this email out. JIRA for Sanselan is a bit confusing; it needs a new version created for the next release and the changes that are going in that version should have a fix version set of that new version. Ideally the 'what's in the next version?' question can be answered with a link to JI

Fwd: How can I get Commons-net-2.1 Source and Binaries

2010-11-07 Thread Henri Yandell
I find myself wondering if Net should move to the Attic - is anyone active on it and likely to do a release? -- Forwarded message -- From: sebb Date: Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 4:28 PM Subject: Re: How can I get Commons-net-2.1 Source and Binaries To: Commons Users List On 14 Octobe

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0

2010-11-07 Thread Gary Gregory
On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:45, "sebb" wrote: > On 7 November 2010 02:17, Gary Gregory wrote: >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Henning Schmiedehausen [mailto:henn...@schmiedehausen.org] >>> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 19:03 >>> To: Commons Developers List >>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release C

Re: [SANSELAN] Status and future of Sanselan?

2010-11-07 Thread Charles Matthew Chen
I think a new release is overdue. I've been meaning to do it when I find the time. If someone else would like to beat me to it, they're welcome to go ahead. Almost everything new in the release is covered by closed JIRA tickets. > What are the implications of Sanselan's having been elevated

Re: [Primitives] Does anyone use this?

2010-11-07 Thread Henri Yandell
Something else to consider is Stephen Colebourne's Joda Primitives: http://joda-primitives.sourceforge.net/ Commons Primitives hasn't been touched since 2005 when Stephen was active on the component. I think it's an Attic component (ie not being worked on and no future releases expected). Bcc to

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0

2010-11-07 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
I would suggest that we (and in fact I started hacking around with this) release a vfs2 which is Java6+ only and fully generified. -h On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 08:22, Gary Gregory wrote: > On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:45, "sebb" wrote: > >> On 7 November 2010 02:17, Gary Gregory wrote: -Origina

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0

2010-11-07 Thread Gary Gregory
On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:37, "Henning Schmiedehausen" wrote: > I would suggest that we (and in fact I started hacking around with > this) release a vfs2 which is Java6+ only and fully generified. > That's fine with me and my current work projects but I like a more iterative process where we can g

Re: Komogorov distribution WASF Re: [jira] Commented: (MATH-431) New tests: Wilcoxon signed-rank test and Mann-Whitney U

2010-11-07 Thread Mikkel Meyer Andersen
2010/11/7 Phil Steitz : > On 11/7/10 10:10 AM, Mikkel Meyer Andersen wrote: >> >> 2010/11/7 Phil Steitz: >>> >>> Switching to the right list... >>> >>> - >> >> What we need there is a good algorithm for approximating the KS >> distribution.  I have been corresponding with the author of

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-email-1.3 based on RC1

2010-11-07 Thread Oliver Heger
Based on entries in the pom and in the manifest of the jar I expect that email should be compatible with Java 1.4. However, the build fails on a JDK 1.4 with compilation failures (see below): With StringBuilder and String.contains() classes and methods are used which are available in JDK 1.5 on

Re: How can I get Commons-net-2.1 Source and Binaries

2010-11-07 Thread sebb
On 7 November 2010 16:17, Henri Yandell wrote: > I find myself wondering if Net should move to the Attic - is anyone > active on it and likely to do a release? > I have been working on it from time to time and have been considering doing a 2.x release. Hopefully there will be enough people inter

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0

2010-11-07 Thread James Carman
Make sure you stay compatible or it'll have to go to 3.0 On Nov 7, 2010 11:44 AM, "Gary Gregory" wrote: > On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:37, "Henning Schmiedehausen" < henn...@schmiedehausen.org> wrote: > >> I would suggest that we (and in fact I started hacking around with >> this) release a vfs2 which is

Re: [Math] FunctionEvaluationException in UnivariateRealFunction

2010-11-07 Thread Phil Steitz
On 11/5/10 5:39 PM, Gilles Sadowski wrote: Hello. [...] Of course, I didn't overlook that you just ask for a @throws FunctionEvaluationException when the evaluation failed. Javadoc comment. I'm just reluctant to publicize a guideline that is not adhered to in CM! Whenever a method is p

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0

2010-11-07 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
No, that would be a vfs2. With new package names and everything. It would not be intended to be drop in compatible. -h On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:53, James Carman wrote: > Make sure you stay compatible or it'll have to go to 3.0 > On Nov 7, 2010 11:44 AM, "Gary Gregory" > wrote: >> On Nov 7, 201

[continuum] BUILD FAILURE: Apache Commons - Commons BeanUtils - Default Maven 2 Build Definition (Java 1.5)

2010-11-07 Thread Continuum@vmbuild
Online report : http://vmbuild.apache.org/continuum/buildResult.action?buildId=1466&projectId=65 Build statistics: State: Failed Previous State: Failed Started at: Sun 7 Nov 2010 21:20:09 + Finished at: Sun 7 Nov 2010 21:26:52 + Total time: 6m 42s Build Trigger: Schedule Bui

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0

2010-11-07 Thread James Carman
If we release vfs2 and then we make changes that make it binary incompatible, then we have to go to 3 to do a new release. Am I missing something? On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: > No, that would be a vfs2. With new package names and everything. It > would not be in

Re: [SANSELAN] Status and future of Sanselan?

2010-11-07 Thread Henri Yandell
What will the version number be for the next release? On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Charles Matthew Chen wrote: >   I think a new release is overdue.  I've been meaning to do it when > I find the time.  If someone else would like to beat me to it, they're > welcome to go ahead.  Almost everythi

Backwards incompatible changes and package names (was: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0)

2010-11-07 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
It will be a new sub-project. commons-vfs-2. and commons-vfs2-1.0 should be able to co-exist on the same classpath. For maven reasons, it is not desirable to have shift its internal packages (because Maven does not understand that 2.0 and 3.0 are not compatible) and commons-vfs and commons-vfs2 s

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-email-1.3 based on RC1

2010-11-07 Thread Siegfried Goeschl
Hi Oliver, thanks for the hint - as a Mac OS X user I have currently a limited choice of JVMs ... :-( I'm getting the JDK 1.4 installed on my Linux image ... Cheers, Siegfried Goeschl On 11/7/10 6:28 PM, Oliver Heger wrote: Based on entries in the pom and in the manifest of the jar I exp

[VOTE] Cancelling vote for commons-email-1.3 based on RC1

2010-11-07 Thread Siegfried Goeschl
Hi folks, I would like to fix the JDK 1.4 issues and call for a new vote - and this is the last JDK 1.4 compatible release anyway Cheers, Siegfried Goeschl On 11/6/10 7:18 PM, Siegfried Goeschl wrote: +1 Siegfried Goeschl On 11/6/10 6:19 PM, Siegfried Goeschl wrote: Hi folks, I would li

Re: Backwards incompatible changes and package names (was: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0)

2010-11-07 Thread James Carman
It's not a new subproject. It's just a new version of the same subproject. Trust me, I know about how the maven artifactId/package name/classpath stuff works. I've had this discussion many times before on this list. VFS is releasing its 2.0 release right now. If you want to make binary incompa

Re: Backwards incompatible changes and package names (was: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0)

2010-11-07 Thread sebb
On 7 November 2010 23:56, James Carman wrote: > It's not a new subproject.  It's just a new version of the same > subproject.  Trust me, I know about how the maven artifactId/package > name/classpath stuff works.  I've had this discussion many times > before on this list.  VFS is releasing its 2.0

Re: Backwards incompatible changes and package names (was: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0)

2010-11-07 Thread Phil Steitz
On 11/7/10 7:03 PM, sebb wrote: On 7 November 2010 23:56, James Carman wrote: It's not a new subproject. It's just a new version of the same subproject. Trust me, I know about how the maven artifactId/package name/classpath stuff works. I've had this discussion many times before on this list

[VFS] Maven groupId problem?

2010-11-07 Thread sebb
Just tried using Clirr to check whether the API is compatible or not. However, Maven Clirr won't work because it cannot find the previous version. The reason for this is that the Maven groupId has been changed from commons-vfs to org.apache.commons. I think this could cause classpath problems in

Re: [Math] FunctionEvaluationException in UnivariateRealFunction

2010-11-07 Thread Gilles Sadowski
> > +1 - here is an idea that can likely be improved: > > IllegalArgumentException - thrown when the activated method itself > can ascertain that preconditions specified in the API expressed at > the level of the activated method have been violated. In the vast > majority of cases where [math] t

Re: [VFS] Maven groupId problem?

2010-11-07 Thread James Carman
Nobody listens to me On Nov 7, 2010 7:49 PM, "sebb" wrote: > Just tried using Clirr to check whether the API is compatible or not. > > However, Maven Clirr won't work because it cannot find the previous version. > > The reason for this is that the Maven groupId has been changed from > commons-vfs

Re: Backwards incompatible changes and package names (was: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0)

2010-11-07 Thread James Carman
So you think that if there is no API break, then you don't bump major version numbers? So what about vfs 2.0? Would you vote against it? On Nov 7, 2010 7:18 PM, "Phil Steitz" wrote: > On 11/7/10 7:03 PM, sebb wrote: >> On 7 November 2010 23:56, James Carman wrote: >>> It's not a new subproject.

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0

2010-11-07 Thread sebb
I've just run Clirr on VFS 2.0 (had to cheat and change the Maven GroupId). There are quite a few errors, which mean that the code is not binary compatible: ERROR: 7012: org.apache.commons.vfs.FileContent: Method 'public boolean hasAttribute(java.lang.String)' has been added to an interface ERROR:

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0

2010-11-07 Thread James Carman
Ok, so change package, artifactid (group has already changed), and take the opportunity to modernize the API unless you can do it in a compatible way in a later 2.x release. Otherwise you will need to go to 3.x. On Nov 7, 2010 8:21 PM, "sebb" wrote: > I've just run Clirr on VFS 2.0 (had to cheat

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0

2010-11-07 Thread Ralph Goers
On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: > I would suggest that we (and in fact I started hacking around with > this) release a vfs2 which is Java6+ only and fully generified. > I'm not sure whether I agree. I think I mentioned that Java 7 has a new FileSystem abstraction. ht

Re: [VFS] Maven groupId problem?

2010-11-07 Thread Ralph Goers
On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:49 PM, sebb wrote: > Just tried using Clirr to check whether the API is compatible or not. > > However, Maven Clirr won't work because it cannot find the previous version. > > The reason for this is that the Maven groupId has been changed from > commons-vfs to org.apache.com

Re: Backwards incompatible changes and package names (was: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0)

2010-11-07 Thread Phil Steitz
On 11/7/10 8:19 PM, James Carman wrote: So you think that if there is no API break, then you don't bump major version numbers? So what about vfs 2.0? Would you vote against it? I would not -1 the release, but I would encourage the RM to consider making it 1.x if there are no compat breaks.

Re: [VFS] Maven groupId problem?

2010-11-07 Thread James Carman
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > I find this very confusing.  In trunk I cannot find a version of pom.xml in > either the parent or core that didn't have org.apache.commons as the groupid. >  Even in the 1.0 tag the pom.xml has org.apache.commons as the groupId. > However,

Re: Backwards incompatible changes and package names (was: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0)

2010-11-07 Thread James Carman
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > I would not -1 the release, but I would encourage the RM to consider making > it 1.x if there are no compat breaks. > So, how about now that we know there are compat breaks? I would -1 the release now that we know the API is in fact "broken" b

Re: Backwards incompatible changes and package names (was: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0)

2010-11-07 Thread Ralph Goers
On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:02 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 11/7/10 8:19 PM, James Carman wrote: >> So you think that if there is no API break, then you don't bump major >> version numbers? So what about vfs 2.0? Would you vote against it? > > I would not -1 the release, but I would encourage the RM t

Re: Backwards incompatible changes and package names (was: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0)

2010-11-07 Thread James Carman
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > Is the goal to never do a release? > No, the goal is to not rush a release just to get something out there. If we will be knowingly setting our users up for failure (or worse "jar hell"), then I don't want to do a release that way.

Re: [VFS] Maven groupId problem?

2010-11-07 Thread Ralph Goers
On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:11 PM, James Carman wrote: > On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Ralph Goers > wrote: >> >> I find this very confusing. In trunk I cannot find a version of pom.xml in >> either the parent or core that didn't have org.apache.commons as the >> groupid. Even in the 1.0 tag th

Re: Backwards incompatible changes and package names (was: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0)

2010-11-07 Thread Ralph Goers
On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:18 PM, James Carman wrote: > On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Ralph Goers > wrote: >> >> Is the goal to never do a release? >> > > No, the goal is to not rush a release just to get something out there. > If we will be knowingly setting our users up for failure (or worse >

Re: [VFS] Maven groupId problem?

2010-11-07 Thread James Carman
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > That said, I understand the implications of screwing stuff up.  I just think > it is a lot less likely that you will find 2.0 and 1.0 of VFS in the same > classpath vs something like commons lang. But if the consensus is to change > the pac

Re: Backwards incompatible changes and package names (was: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0)

2010-11-07 Thread James Carman
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > If this is rushing I'd hate to see slow. Releasing VFS 2.0 has been discussed > several times over the last year or more. None of this is new information. > Rushing as in doing something before it's time to do it, not rushing as in doing somet

Re: [VFS] Maven groupId problem?

2010-11-07 Thread Ralph Goers
On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:32 PM, James Carman wrote: > On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Ralph Goers > wrote: >> >> That said, I understand the implications of screwing stuff up. I just think >> it is a lot less likely that you will find 2.0 and 1.0 of VFS in the same >> classpath vs something lik

Re: [VFS] Maven groupId problem?

2010-11-07 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Get a relocation in. problem solved. "commons-vfs" -> "org.apache.commons". See e.g. http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/xerces/xerces/2.0.2/xerces-2.0.2.pom on how to do that. This should go into repo1: 4.0.0 commons-vfs commons-vfs 2.0.0 org.apache.commons commons-vfs

Re: [VFS] Maven groupId problem?

2010-11-07 Thread James Carman
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > Yeah. I should just get over it and go do it.  Rereading the thread it is > clear more people than not thought the package name should be changed. I'll > take the blame for not doing it. > I don't mind lending a hand if you want it. I'm ac

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0

2010-11-07 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
I'd say that Java7 is still at least 12 months out and another 6-12 months to general adoption. -h On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 17:41, Ralph Goers wrote: > > On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: > >> I would suggest that we (and in fact I started hacking around with >> this) relea

Re: [VFS] Maven groupId problem?

2010-11-07 Thread James Carman
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: > This is an old, buggy location and it should be cleaned up over time. > Being locked into the mistakes of the past because some tool can not > understand it, doesn't seem to be reasonable to me. > The cat's sort of out of the bag now

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0

2010-11-07 Thread James Carman
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > I'm not sure whether I agree. I think I mentioned that Java 7 has a new > FileSystem abstraction. > http://download.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/nio/file/package-summary.html. >  I  would think VFS 3.0 would remove the API and just pro

Re: [VFS] Maven groupId problem?

2010-11-07 Thread James Carman
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:48 PM, James Carman wrote: > > The cat's sort of out of the bag now.  It pisses people (well at least > it does me) off when you start moving stuff around on them.  All of a > sudden, you start seeing "blah blah moved to blah blah" in your build > output.  VFS apparently w

Re: [VFS] Maven groupId problem?

2010-11-07 Thread sebb
On 8 November 2010 02:53, James Carman wrote: > On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:48 PM, James Carman > wrote: >> >> The cat's sort of out of the bag now.  It pisses people (well at least >> it does me) off when you start moving stuff around on them.  All of a >> sudden, you start seeing "blah blah moved

Re: [VFS] Maven groupId problem?

2010-11-07 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
I don't get it. Sorry. :-) So maven1 kind of added ad-hoc groups. They chose to use the same as the artifactId as the groupId when they constituted that back in the maven1 days. That turned out to be suboptimal. But some artifacts that were in the maven1 tree (most of commons) ended up in the comm

[VFS] Generics fixes

2010-11-07 Thread sebb
Most of the generics fixes have now been done. There are still a few raw Class references; most of these can be fixed if DefaultFileSystemConfigBuilder.getConfigClass() is changed to return a FileSystem [1] Can anyone else confirm that this is a sensible change? [1] https://issues.apache.org/jir

Re: [VFS] Maven groupId problem?

2010-11-07 Thread sebb
On 8 November 2010 03:08, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: > I don't get it. Sorry. :-) > > So maven1 kind of added ad-hoc groups. They chose to use the same as > the artifactId as the groupId when they constituted that back in the > maven1 days. That turned out to be suboptimal. But some artifacts t

Re: [VFS] Maven groupId problem?

2010-11-07 Thread James Carman
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:03 PM, sebb wrote: > > I just checked, and the tag agrees with the source archive - apart > from the sandbox tree, which is only in the tag. > Huh? If you look at the tag that is supposed to be for 1.0 here: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/vfs/tags/vfs-1

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0

2010-11-07 Thread Ralph Goers
On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:49 PM, James Carman wrote: > On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Ralph Goers > wrote: >> >> I'm not sure whether I agree. I think I mentioned that Java 7 has a new >> FileSystem abstraction. >> http://download.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/nio/file/package-summary.html.

RE: Backwards incompatible changes and package names (was: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons VFS 2.0)

2010-11-07 Thread Gary Gregory
> -Original Message- > From: jcar...@carmanconsulting.com [mailto:jcar...@carmanconsulting.com] On > Behalf Of James Carman > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 18:14 > To: Commons Developers List > Subject: Re: Backwards incompatible changes and package names (was: Re: [VOTE] > Release Common

RE: [VFS] Maven groupId problem?

2010-11-07 Thread Gary Gregory
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