Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-12-02 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Kevan Miller wrote: > > On Nov 20, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Donald Woods wrote: > >> Take a look at the proposal and feel free to edit and add any missing >> info > > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ValidationProposal -- looks good to me. Has > there been a vote by

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-12-02 Thread Kevan Miller
On Nov 20, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Donald Woods wrote: > Take a look at the proposal and feel free to edit and add any missing info http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ValidationProposal -- looks good to me. Has there been a vote by the Commons community to sponsor? --kevan

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-20 Thread Donald Woods
Take a look at the proposal and feel free to edit and add any missing info -Donald Simone Tripodi wrote: HI guys, being a volunteer to help you on developing the new Validation framework, is there any way I can help you on completing the proposal? Please let me know! Have a nice weekend,

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-20 Thread Simone Tripodi
HI guys, being a volunteer to help you on developing the new Validation framework, is there any way I can help you on completing the proposal? Please let me know! Have a nice weekend, best regards Simone On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Donald Woods wrote: > I'm sure we'll get a few more interest

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-18 Thread Donald Woods
I'm sure we'll get a few more interested committers from Geronimo and OpenJPA. Was just waiting until we had an initial proposal draft completed before posting it to those dev lists. I'll go ahead and post to those lists today and maybe we can target you starting a Commons vote in the next w

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-18 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Kevan Miller wrote: > Apologies for chiming in late. > > From a Geronimo/EE 6 perspective, I'm definitely interested in seeing a 303 > implementation at Apache. I'm not likely to have much time for > implementation. However, if champions or mentors are needed, I'

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-18 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Donald Woods wrote: > OK, I finished my first rounds of updates. If we want Apache Commons to be sponsor then we should hold a vote here first. >  Looks like we just need to nail > down a champion and we can add more mentors once we propose it to the > incubator.

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-18 Thread Donald Woods
OK, I finished my first rounds of updates. Looks like we just need to nail down a champion and we can add more mentors once we propose it to the incubator -Donald Niall Pemberton wrote: Lets start a proposal on the incubator wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ I've set up a ske

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-18 Thread Kevan Miller
Apologies for chiming in late. From a Geronimo/EE 6 perspective, I'm definitely interested in seeing a 303 implementation at Apache. I'm not likely to have much time for implementation. However, if champions or mentors are needed, I'd be willing to help. On Nov 4, 2009, at 11:27 AM, Donald Wood

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-04 Thread Donald Woods
Niall Pemberton wrote: On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Donald Woods wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote: On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Donald Woods wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote: On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Donald Woods wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Don

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-04 Thread Donald Woods
Niall Pemberton wrote: On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Donald Woods wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote: On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Donald Woods wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Donald Woods wrote: Ni

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-04 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Donald Woods wrote: > > > Niall Pemberton wrote: >> >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Donald Woods wrote: >>> >>> Niall Pemberton wrote: On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Donald Woods wrote: > > Niall Pemberton wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 27

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-04 Thread Donald Woods
Niall Pemberton wrote: On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Donald Woods wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote: On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Donald Woods wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Donald Woods wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Do

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-04 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Donald Woods wrote: >> >> >> Niall Pemberton wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Donald Woods wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Donald Woods wr

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-04 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Donald Woods wrote: > > > Niall Pemberton wrote: >> >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Donald Woods wrote: >>> >>> Niall Pemberton wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Donald Woods wrote: > > Niall Pemberton wrote: >> >> On Mon, Oct 2

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-04 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
+1 on the proposal :) On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Donald Woods wrote: > > > Niall Pemberton wrote: >> >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Donald Woods wrote: >>> >>> Niall Pemberton wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Donald Woods wrote: > > Niall Pemberton wrote:

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-04 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
I totally agree with that Donald :), but now its been weeks discussing the same subject and nothing changed. This is what I am talking about. On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Donald Woods wrote: > Apache is built upon open collaboration within a community. > > Here, we have a significant code dona

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-04 Thread Donald Woods
Niall Pemberton wrote: On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Donald Woods wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Donald Woods wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Donald Woods wrote: Hi Nail. I'm the one who created that copy of 1.4, so it'

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-04 Thread Donald Woods
Apache is built upon open collaboration within a community. Here, we have a significant code donation being offered, which would save us months or years in jump starting a JSR-303 implementation at Apache. Therefore, I believe the only fair approach is one that allows the code contributor com

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-04 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi... IMO, and sorry for saying that, now we've been transformed from thinking about the project on how to get Roman involved in code submission. IMO if this has no solution to be taken to get things up and running fast enough so either Ron accepts that situation, or we start doing it the way N

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-04 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Donald Woods wrote: > > > Niall Pemberton wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Donald Woods wrote: >>> >>> Niall Pemberton wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Donald Woods wrote: > > Hi Nail.  I'm the one who created that copy of 1.

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-02 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Seems not :(, wdyt should we go the way Niall started ? On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Donald Woods wrote: > > > Niall Pemberton wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Donald Woods wrote: >>> >>> Niall Pemberton wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Donald Woods wrote: >>>

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-11-02 Thread Donald Woods
Niall Pemberton wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Donald Woods wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Donald Woods wrote: Hi Nail. I'm the one who created that copy of 1.4, so it's fine if we repurpose it, see VALIDATOR-279. As far as the API, we already ha

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-10-27 Thread Donald Woods
Niall Pemberton wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Donald Woods wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Donald Woods wrote: Hi Nail. I'm the one who created that copy of 1.4, so it's fine if we repurpos

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-10-27 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Donald Woods wrote: >> >> >> Niall Pemberton wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Donald Woods wrote: Hi Nail.  I'm the one who created that copy of 1.4, so it's fine if we repurp

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-10-27 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Donald Woods wrote: > > > Niall Pemberton wrote: >> >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Donald Woods wrote: >>> >>> Hi Nail.  I'm the one who created that copy of 1.4, so it's fine if we >>> repurpose it, see VALIDATOR-279. >>> >>> As far as the API, we already ha

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-10-27 Thread Donald Woods
Niall Pemberton wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Donald Woods wrote: Hi Nail. I'm the one who created that copy of 1.4, so it's fine if we repurpose it, see VALIDATOR-279. As far as the API, we already have a clean room copy of the 1.0 GA API created over in the Apache Geronimo Specs

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-10-27 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Donald Woods wrote: > Hi Nail.  I'm the one who created that copy of 1.4, so it's fine if we > repurpose it, see VALIDATOR-279. > > As far as the API, we already have a clean room copy of the 1.0 GA API > created over in the Apache Geronimo Specs subproject [1], wi

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-10-27 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi Niall... I think we need to know your comment on that as you are the one who started the thread and the effort related to what we started to discuss on this thread :). On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:43 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: > Donald Woods wrote: >> > >  The only complication, is that we would

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-10-26 Thread Phil Steitz
Donald Woods wrote: > The only complication, is that we would need to > offer committership to Roman from Agimatec as soon as the Incubator IP > clearance is finished, as he would need to be the one to remove the > existing Agimatec copyright statements. Thoughts? I am not familiar enough wi

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-10-26 Thread Donald Woods
The amount of time to start over seems like a waste, given we have an existing ASL 2.0 licensed codebase which is 75-80% done and wanting to come over to the ASF -Donald Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: Hi Donald... If moving the code of Agimatic into ASF going to be problematic why not

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-10-26 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi Donald... If moving the code of Agimatic into ASF going to be problematic why not to start a clean room implementation as Niall suggested ? On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Donald Woods wrote: > Hi Nail.  I'm the one who created that copy of 1.4, so it's fine if we > repurpose it, see VALI

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-10-26 Thread Donald Woods
Hi Nail. I'm the one who created that copy of 1.4, so it's fine if we repurpose it, see VALIDATOR-279. As far as the API, we already have a clean room copy of the 1.0 GA API created over in the Apache Geronimo Specs subproject [1], with the other Java EE spec APIs we ship, so I'd be -1 on cre

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-10-23 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > > So I would like to propose the following direction for a Validator2 > based on the Bean Validation Framework(JSR 303) - a project with three > separate modules composing of: > >  - The Bean Validation (JSR303) API - no dependencies >  -

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-10-23 Thread Matt Benson
+1 --- On Fri, 10/23/09, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: > From: Mohammad Nour El-Din > Subject: Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR > 303 > To: "Commons Developers List" > Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 4:35 AM > +1 > > Act

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-10-23 Thread Paul Benedict
Doesn't Commons Validator currently include JavaScript routines? I think that's value that shouldn't be thrown away regardless of JSR-303 implementation. Paul On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi Niall, > thanks for your reply, that's my > > +1 > > :) I'm not an Apache Com

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-10-23 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Niall, thanks for your reply, that's my +1 :) I'm not an Apache Committer but I already contributed to Cocoon3 and just submitted my first patch to commons-digester, so I'm quite familiar to how things work here. Sure, I'll follow the list and take me in consideration!! All the best, Simone

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-10-23 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
+1 Actually this is even better to start from scratch. I am in Niall. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Simone Tripodi > wrote: >> Hi guys, >> I don't have the rights to express votes but at least please let me > > Anyone can vote - it ma

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-10-23 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi guys, > I don't have the rights to express votes but at least please let me Anyone can vote - it may end up we don't agree - but votes are appreciated. > say that sounds great, commons-validation has to be the proper home > for JSR303,

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-10-23 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi guys, I don't have the rights to express votes but at least please let me say that sounds great, commons-validation has to be the proper home for JSR303, I'd like to contribute in this project since I already started studying the spec :) All the best, Simone On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:58 AM, He

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-10-22 Thread Henri Yandell
+! On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Paul Benedict wrote: > +1 > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Niall Pemberton > wrote: >> The current trunk in the validator2 sandbox is a copy of the Validator >> 1.4 code from "commons proper" - but I think we should dump all the >> existing validator fram

Re: [validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-10-22 Thread Paul Benedict
+1 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > The current trunk in the validator2 sandbox is a copy of the Validator > 1.4 code from "commons proper" - but I think we should dump all the > existing validator framework code and just retain the "routines" > package. Trying to maintai

[validator] Direction of validator implementation based on JSR 303

2009-10-22 Thread Niall Pemberton
The current trunk in the validator2 sandbox is a copy of the Validator 1.4 code from "commons proper" - but I think we should dump all the existing validator framework code and just retain the "routines" package. Trying to maintain any sort of compatibility with the existing validator framework wou