Re: [all] github (was Re: [VOTE] Create additional mailing lists for automated posts)

2020-07-25 Thread Xeno Amess
>GitHub is basically our interactive pull request interface. If we didn’t have that, I bet we’d be running GitLab ourselves or similar. Yes, that is what I think gitbox lacks. Cannot imagine a git-based website having no convenient pr system... >Also, being that the bar to be a committer here is

Re: [all] github (was Re: [VOTE] Create additional mailing lists for automated posts)

2020-07-25 Thread Matt Sicker
GitHub is basically our interactive pull request interface. If we didn’t have that, I bet we’d be running GitLab ourselves or similar. Also, being that the bar to be a committer here is fairly low, getting access to gitbox directly isn’t too difficult. On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 12:17 Xeno Amess wr

Re: [all] github (was Re: [VOTE] Create additional mailing lists for automated posts)

2020-07-25 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hello. Le ven. 24 juil. 2020 à 17:45, Stefan Bodewig a écrit : > > This is an attempt at answering something raised be Gilles in a > different thread. I'm afraid it is getting longer than I > intended. Something seems to need to get out. Sorry. > > On 2020-07-23, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > > I mi

Re: [all] github (was Re: [VOTE] Create additional mailing lists for automated posts)

2020-07-24 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2020-07-24, Xeno Amess wrote: >> We respectfully discuss and in the end come to a compromise or a common >> ground where we can agree to disagree. I still see this happen here and >> don't think all of us need to have the same opinion. > So maybe at the end some of commons repos using as new

Re: [all] github (was Re: [VOTE] Create additional mailing lists for automated posts)

2020-07-24 Thread Xeno Amess
> We respectfully discuss and in the end come to a compromise or a common ground where we can agree to disagree. I still see this happen here and don't think all of us need to have the same opinion. So maybe at the end some of commons repos using as new version of dependencies as they can, others

Re: [all] github (was Re: [VOTE] Create additional mailing lists for automated posts)

2020-07-24 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2020-07-24, Xeno Amess wrote: > As for community building, I agree with you that commons seems not a > close community, but I doubt it be github's fault. even there be no > github, sub-repos in commons are not that close to each other. Commons is an old project and it started with a striving

Re: [all] github (was Re: [VOTE] Create additional mailing lists for automated posts)

2020-07-24 Thread Xeno Amess
for example...we become even hard to get an agreement on whether to upgrade dependencies...(sigh) Atleast on this thing I don't think github is the one to blame... Xeno Amess 于 2020年7月25日周六 上午1:21写道: > As for community building, I agree with you that commons seems not a close > community, but I

Re: [all] github (was Re: [VOTE] Create additional mailing lists for automated posts)

2020-07-24 Thread Xeno Amess
As for community building, I agree with you that commons seems not a close community, but I doubt it be github's fault. even there be no github, sub-repos in commons are not that close to each other. Xeno Amess 于 2020年7月25日周六 上午1:16写道: > besides, that is JIRA where we can apply patch, but I thin

Re: [all] github (was Re: [VOTE] Create additional mailing lists for automated posts)

2020-07-24 Thread Xeno Amess
besides, that is JIRA where we can apply patch, but I think it SHOULD be done on gutbox. github, gitlab, all of them have a convienent pr system. so yes our JIRA is good, I like JIRA. But for gitbox, I think it really lack lots of things. Or, there be those things, but not open. Xeno Amess 于 2020

Re: [all] github (was Re: [VOTE] Create additional mailing lists for automated posts)

2020-07-24 Thread Xeno Amess
you know that is really complex and time costing... especially when we want some trigger invoked like travis-ci. Stefan Bodewig 于 2020年7月25日周六 上午1:06写道: > On 2020-07-24, Xeno Amess wrote: > > > I will explain why github come to be center, but not apache gitbox. > > 1.1 > > I have right to regist

Re: [all] github (was Re: [VOTE] Create additional mailing lists for automated posts)

2020-07-24 Thread Xeno Amess
Apologize for being in mood. So my opinion is if github is the only way people where ANY people can create pr, then no wonder it will become center gradually. Gary Gregory 于 2020年7月25日周六 上午12:53写道: > Xeno, > > Your last sentence contains language that is completely inappropriate here. > > Please

Re: [all] github (was Re: [VOTE] Create additional mailing lists for automated posts)

2020-07-24 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2020-07-24, Xeno Amess wrote: > I will explain why github come to be center, but not apache gitbox. > 1.1 > I have right to register an account on github. > 1.2 > I registered an account at github. > 1.3 > I commit then create pr. > 1.4 > pr get reviewed then merged. I am fully aware of how gi

Re: [all] github (was Re: [VOTE] Create additional mailing lists for automated posts)

2020-07-24 Thread Gary Gregory
Xeno, Your last sentence contains language that is completely inappropriate here. Please take a breath. Any point you are trying to make is most likely to get lost by your invective. Gary On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 12:40 Xeno Amess wrote: > I will explain why github come to be center, but not apac

Re: [all] github (was Re: [VOTE] Create additional mailing lists for automated posts)

2020-07-24 Thread Xeno Amess
I will explain why github come to be center, but not apache gitbox. 1.1 I have right to register an account on github. 1.2 I registered an account at github. 1.3 I commit then create pr. 1.4 pr get reviewed then merged. 2.1 I have no right to register on apache gitbox. 2.2 I can not register on ap

[all] github (was Re: [VOTE] Create additional mailing lists for automated posts)

2020-07-24 Thread Stefan Bodewig
This is an attempt at answering something raised be Gilles in a different thread. I'm afraid it is getting longer than I intended. Something seems to need to get out. Sorry. On 2020-07-23, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > I missed the turn where this project's PMC decided that we must > be present on GH