Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-09 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Niall Pemberton > wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: >>> Hi Niall, >>> >>> Niall Pemberton wrote: >>> I have prepared Commons IO 2.0 RC2 for review (rc1 never went past the

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-07 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: >> Hi Niall, >> >> Niall Pemberton wrote: >> >>> I have prepared Commons IO 2.0 RC2 for review (rc1 never went past the >>> tag). As there have been quite a few changes in the last week

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-07 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: > Hi Niall, > > Niall Pemberton wrote: > >> I have prepared Commons IO 2.0 RC2 for review (rc1 never went past the >> tag). As there have been quite a few changes in the last week, I'll >> leave it a few days before even considering whether to

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-07 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Niall, Niall Pemberton wrote: > I have prepared Commons IO 2.0 RC2 for review (rc1 never went past the > tag). As there have been quite a few changes in the last week, I'll > leave it a few days before even considering whether to call a vote, to > give time for feedback. > > The distro is her

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread Gary Gregory
On Oct 6, 2010, at 9:35, "Jörg Schaible" wrote: > Hi guys, > > Niall Pemberton wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:20 PM, James Carman >> wrote: >>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Niall Pemberton >>> wrote: There are four people who think 2.0 (Stephen and myself in this thread >

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread Gary Gregory
On Oct 6, 2010, at 5:49, "Niall Pemberton" mailto:niall.pember...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Jörg Schaible mailto:joerg.schai...@gmx.de>> wrote: Nial wrote: The original plan for 2.0 was thinking it would be *incompatible* and hence the major version changed - I guess i

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread Paul Benedict
Niall, if the rules allow a major version bump, then you are free to do it. However, the major version bump is misleading to me and I wouldn't choose it if I was RM. On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > On Oct 6, 2010, at 3:50, "Niall Pemberton" wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread Gary Gregory
On Oct 6, 2010, at 3:50, "Niall Pemberton" wrote: > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: >> Hi Niall, >> >> Niall Pemberton wrote: >> >>> I have prepared Commons IO 2.0 RC2 for review (rc1 never went past the >>> tag). As there have been quite a few changes in the last week, I'

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread James Carman
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > > No - if/when IO breaks binary compatibility, then IMO there will be a > package name change and major version. I'll sort out JIRA if/when this > release is out > So, we have: Version 1.x: org.apache.commons.io Version 2.x: org.apache.c

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Paul Benedict wrote: > Let's say IO went out as 2.0 and it was binary compatible. There are > enhancements planned for for 2.x that would break compatibility. Is > that still okay? No - if/when IO breaks binary compatibility, then IMO there will be a package name c

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread Paul Benedict
Let's say IO went out as 2.0 and it was binary compatible. There are enhancements planned for for 2.x that would break compatibility. Is that still okay? I find it odd we would strive for 2.0 to be binary compatible, but allow 2.x not to be. Paul On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Jörg Schaible wr

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi guys, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:20 PM, James Carman > wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Niall Pemberton >> wrote: >>> >>> There are four people who think 2.0 (Stephen and myself in this thread >>> and Sebb and Dennis in the previous thread back in March[1]) t

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread James Carman
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > > Commons is a federation. IMO Its not a one-size-fits all with a set of > rules to make all components adhere to. We do different things on > different projects and generally leave decisions up to the developers > on that component. > If

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread sebb
On 6 October 2010 16:20, James Carman wrote: > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Niall Pemberton > wrote: >> >> There are four people who think 2.0 (Stephen and myself in this thread >> and Sebb and Dennis in the previous thread back in March[1]) that >> think it should be 2.0. So far there are fi

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:20 PM, James Carman wrote: > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Niall Pemberton > wrote: >> >> There are four people who think 2.0 (Stephen and myself in this thread >> and Sebb and Dennis in the previous thread back in March[1]) that >> think it should be 2.0. So far there

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread James Carman
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > > There are four people who think 2.0 (Stephen and myself in this thread > and Sebb and Dennis in the previous thread back in March[1]) that > think it should be 2.0. So far there are five who think 1.5 (Jörg, > James, Michael, Paul & Matt)

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Matt Benson wrote: > > On Oct 6, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Michael Wooten wrote: > >> Hey All, >> >> As a user (and occasional contributor) I would have to agree with Jorg >> that 1.5 makes more sense, in the fact that it does retain binary >> compatibility. Like with Lang

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread Matt Benson
On Oct 6, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Michael Wooten wrote: > Hey All, > > As a user (and occasional contributor) I would have to agree with Jorg > that 1.5 makes more sense, in the fact that it does retain binary > compatibility. Like with Lang 3.0, I would expect that the 2.0 release > would be a major

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread Paul Benedict
I tend to agree that 2.0 should allow backwards incompatible changes. If it is simply adding generics and cleaning up code, it deserves a 1.5 version number. That's how I see it anyway. Paul On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Michael Wooten wrote: > Hey All, > > As a user (and occasional contributo

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread Michael Wooten
Hey All, As a user (and occasional contributor) I would have to agree with Jorg that 1.5 makes more sense, in the fact that it does retain binary compatibility. Like with Lang 3.0, I would expect that the 2.0 release would be a major change (dropping backwards compatibility, removing deprecated co

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Jörg Schaible wrote: > >> Nial wrote: >>> The original plan for 2.0 was thinking it would be *incompatible* and >>> hence the major version changed - I guess it mainly stuck from that >>> starting point: >>> >>> http://markmail.org/message/46dos5wjdfhcr5nr >>> >>>

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread Jörg Schaible
> Nial wrote: >> The original plan for 2.0 was thinking it would be *incompatible* and >> hence the major version changed - I guess it mainly stuck from that >> starting point: >> >> http://markmail.org/message/46dos5wjdfhcr5nr >> >> Sebb did bring this up earlier this year though - although most

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread Stephen Colebourne
On 6 October 2010 11:49, Niall Pemberton wrote: > The original plan for 2.0 was thinking it would be *incompatible* and > hence the major version changed - I guess it mainly stuck from that > starting point: > >    http://markmail.org/message/46dos5wjdfhcr5nr > > Sebb did bring this up earlier thi

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread James Carman
So, call it 1.5 On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: >> Hi Niall, >> >> Niall Pemberton wrote: >> >>> I have prepared Commons IO 2.0 RC2 for review (rc1 never went past the >>> tag). As there have been quite a few changes i

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: > Hi Niall, > > Niall Pemberton wrote: > >> I have prepared Commons IO 2.0 RC2 for review (rc1 never went past the >> tag). As there have been quite a few changes in the last week, I'll >> leave it a few days before even considering whether to c

Re: [IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-06 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Niall, Niall Pemberton wrote: > I have prepared Commons IO 2.0 RC2 for review (rc1 never went past the > tag). As there have been quite a few changes in the last week, I'll > leave it a few days before even considering whether to call a vote, to > give time for feedback. > > The distro is her

[IO] 2.0 RC2 available for review

2010-10-05 Thread Niall Pemberton
I have prepared Commons IO 2.0 RC2 for review (rc1 never went past the tag). As there have been quite a few changes in the last week, I'll leave it a few days before even considering whether to call a vote, to give time for feedback. The distro is here: http://people.apache.org/~niallp/io-2.0-