Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions

2021-10-16 Thread Micah Kornfield
ccess stories with GitHub > issues/discussions. > > > Thanks, > -- > kou > > In > "Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions" > on Thu, 7 Oct 2021 20:06:34 -0700, > Micah Kornfield wrote: > > > Yeah, I think we can keep

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions

2021-10-10 Thread Sutou Kouhei
ve better ideas. It seems that they have their success stories with GitHub issues/discussions. Thanks, -- kou In "Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions" on Thu, 7 Oct 2021 20:06:34 -0700, Micah Kornfield wrote: > Yeah, I think we can keep the both

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions

2021-10-07 Thread Micah Kornfield
Yeah, I think we can keep the both active. Would the experiment be removing the guidance to use user@? What do you think the success metrics would be? On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 8:14 AM Aldrin wrote: > > > > How about trying GitHub issues and/or discussion in a > > specified period without depreca

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions

2021-10-05 Thread Aldrin
> > How about trying GitHub issues and/or discussion in a > specified period without deprecating user@? e.g. between > 6.0.0 release and 7.0.0 release. Oooh, I like this idea. Aldrin Montana Computer Science PhD Student UC Santa Cruz On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 7:11 PM Sutou Kouhei wrote: > Hi,

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions

2021-10-04 Thread Sutou Kouhei
Hi, How about trying GitHub issues and/or discussion in a specified period without deprecating user@? e.g. between 6.0.0 release and 7.0.0 release. If we can see significant improvements in the period, we can discuss this again. In my opinion, I want to disable GitHub issues entirely by .asf.yam

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions

2021-10-01 Thread Benson Muite
Mail is archived at [1] and [2], which uses Pony mail [3][4]. Contributed to an issue to make this more search engine friendly[5]. Search is really helpful to find answers as a user before posting a question. Arrow is developing rapidly, at present with greater engagement between developers b

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions

2021-09-30 Thread Nic
I'm +1 for GH issues due to it lowering the barrier for participation. As someone who is sometimes a bit nervous about interacting with new open source projects/communities, adding a GH Issue is fairly familiar and feels inconsequential, whereas emailing everyone on a mailing list is intimidating.

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions

2021-09-30 Thread Jarek Potiuk
Just a comment on discussions: They already have answered/unanswered filters and they have most of the same properties that "stack overflow" questions have, You do not need to "track" discussions. It's great to answer and react quickly and if you have more discussions all the community might get m

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions

2021-09-29 Thread Weston Pace
+1 for issues because I believe it would lower the barrier for entry. I'm +0 on discussions, they can work but would require more active curation / labeling as they cannot be closed so an "answered / unanswered" label would probably be needed. > I think I already get e-mails from issues but > hav

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions

2021-09-29 Thread Julian Hyde
I'm not for or against this proposal. I took a few minutes to browse the archives [1]. It seems to me that the user@ list is working extremely well. People get answers quickly, problems are converted into JIRA cases, and the discussion often references existing information sources. I want to than

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions

2021-09-29 Thread Phillip Cloud
On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 3:08 PM Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > Le 29/09/2021 à 20:51, Micah Kornfield a écrit : > >> > >> Cons: > >> - Github is a not a mailing-list and does not integrate well in a normal > >> e-mail workflow. > > > > > > Would a mailing list mirror of the issues work for you (I gues

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions

2021-09-29 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 29/09/2021 à 20:51, Micah Kornfield a écrit : Cons: - Github is a not a mailing-list and does not integrate well in a normal e-mail workflow. Would a mailing list mirror of the issues work for you (I guess it would require an extra click). I think I already get e-mails from issues but h

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions

2021-09-29 Thread Jarek Potiuk
Just to comment on that - we are still using users@ mailing list (though it has very low traffic/value) at Apache Airflow - but GitHub Issues/Discussions are indeed rather useful I think and we are rather happy with those. I just created https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pa

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions

2021-09-29 Thread Jonathan Keane
I am also +1 for all of the same reasons both Neal and Philip mention. Lowering that barrier to participation for getting help + having that information more easily findable will make it easiest for folks to use and adopt Arrow. I will add personally I didn't realize I already do this when working

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions

2021-09-29 Thread Micah Kornfield
> > Cons: > - Github is a not a mailing-list and does not integrate well in a normal > e-mail workflow. Would a mailing list mirror of the issues work for you (I guess it would require an extra click). I think I already get e-mails from issues but have them filtered out with the rest of other gi

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions

2021-09-29 Thread Neal Richardson
+1 from me too. More and more developers seem to be accustomed to using GitHub Issues to ask for help, and redirecting them to a mailing list adds a barrier to participation. Neal On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 2:32 PM Phillip Cloud wrote: > I am +1 on steering users towards GitHub issues for support

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions

2021-09-29 Thread Phillip Cloud
I am +1 on steering users towards GitHub issues for support questions. I think there's a lot of value in someone being able to use a search engine to potentially find an answer to their problem. On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 2:16 PM Micah Kornfield wrote: > We discussed briefly on the sync this mornin

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions

2021-09-29 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 29/09/2021 à 20:16, Micah Kornfield a écrit : We discussed briefly on the sync this morning, but I was wondering what people thought about removing the user@ mailing list in favor of either Github issues or discussions. We can try to mirror issues to an appropriate mailing list if archiving

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate user@ in favor for github issues/discussions

2021-09-29 Thread Aldrin
I personally think this would be a nice switch. The ease of searching alone is a worthwhile reason for this switch, which would also make the overall barrier to adoption a little bit lower. I didn't think about decentralizing user issues before, so I think it's a good thing to mention. To some de