Re: Unit tests results with current head

2006-11-03 Thread Steve Cohen
Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: We should also move the starteam tasks to an antlib or or find another project wanting to have them so that we sometime reach the situation where an automated process (gump ?) could build a release candidate of ant legally on an ASF computer. Regards, Antoine --

Re: echo task documentation error

2006-10-31 Thread Steve Cohen
Dominique Devienne wrote: > empty. If foo is empty by mistake, how will one troubleshoot this? and not a blank line. Undefined properties are echoed as literal text, not skipped. I'm well aware of that ;-) That's why I wrote "empty", not "not defined". As in empty string vs null string. The

Re: echo task documentation error

2006-10-30 Thread Steve Cohen
Dominique Devienne wrote: unless someone comes up with a good reason why this is a bug rather than a feature. It's a bug if it doesn't prefix that line with [echo] in non-emacs mode. is not much different from ${foo} with foo being empty. If foo is empty by mistake, how will one troubleshoot

Re: echo task documentation error

2006-10-29 Thread Steve Cohen
Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: Hi Steve, I think you are a committer too. Feel free to edit the documentation. Regards, Antoine Steve Cohen wrote: A very minor point: The ant manual states that the echo task's message attribute is required "unless data is included in a charact

echo task documentation error

2006-10-29 Thread Steve Cohen
A very minor point: The ant manual states that the echo task's message attribute is required "unless data is included in a character section within this element." This appears to be false. I have by accident discovered that has the effect of inserting a totally blank line into the output.

Re: AW: [VOTE] migrate to svn

2005-08-15 Thread Steve Cohen
+1 Matt Benson wrote: Sorry I kept forgetting... Here's my +1. -Matt --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I´m just getting the results of the vote. But I´m not sure which action from the bylaws to use. An "Adoption of New Codebase" needs 2/3 majority of committers which we havent (~ 1/3). Many com

FTP Connection as Referenced Object

2005-06-04 Thread Steve Cohen
Having spent a week thinking over the issues raised in this discussion: http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=31744 I have come to the conclusion that the best place to start would be creating a connection as a referenceable object. I'm trying to find a model to look at so that I

Re: cvs commit: ant/docs/manual/OptionalTasks ftp.html

2005-05-30 Thread Steve Cohen
Steve Loughran wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: scohen 2005/05/29 17:40:21 Modified:src/testcases/org/apache/tools/ant/taskdefs/optional/net FTPTest.java src/main/org/apache/tools/ant/taskdefs/optional/net FTP.java src/etc/testc

Re: Ant Logging isVerbose()?

2005-05-30 Thread Steve Cohen
Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Mon, 30 May 2005, Steve Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In log4j, commons-logging, etc. a common pattern is if (isDebugEnabled()) { // some expensive string building to put message together log.debug(expensiveMessage); } I don't see such functiona

Ant Logging isVerbose()?

2005-05-30 Thread Steve Cohen
In log4j, commons-logging, etc. a common pattern is if (isDebugEnabled()) { // some expensive string building to put message together log.debug(expensiveMessage); } The point is that without the isXXXEnabled(), the expensive string building must occur even if the most verbose logger activ

Re: How to write a JUnit test for this new functionality?

2005-05-29 Thread Steve Cohen
Stephane Bailliez wrote: Steve Cohen wrote: However, my knowledge of Ant internals is somewhat limited. How can I tell an ant project in my test code that when it sees an tag, it should delegate the performance of this task to myRetryableFTP, instead of to the standard FTP as it would

How to write a JUnit test for this new functionality?

2005-05-29 Thread Steve Cohen
Neeme Praks has sent me an interesting patch that allows the task to execute with a certain number of retries specified. That is, it won't fail until the specified number of retries has passed. I want to write some JUnit tests to test this patch. My idea was to simulate failure by subclassi

Re: installation instructions for ant under jpackage

2005-05-26 Thread Steve Cohen
Steve Loughran wrote: Steve Cohen wrote: what is fetch.xml? Sounds interesting. I thought you knew; you updated lib/libraries.properties like you did, that being the property file that drives it. Actually, I grepped through the source for jakarta-commons and found libraries.properties

Re: installation instructions for ant under jpackage

2005-05-26 Thread Steve Cohen
Peter Reilly wrote: Steve Loughran wrote: Steve Cohen wrote: There have been some comments on the jpackage.org mailing list to the effect that our manual doesn't really have correct installation instructions for that environment, although elsewhere on our site we do link to them. I

Re: installation instructions for ant under jpackage

2005-05-26 Thread Steve Cohen
Peter Reilly wrote: Steve Loughran wrote: Steve Cohen wrote: There have been some comments on the jpackage.org mailing list to the effect that our manual doesn't really have correct installation instructions for that environment, although elsewhere on our site we do link to them. I

Re: cvs commit: ant/src/etc/testcases/taskdefs/optional/net ftp.xml

2005-05-25 Thread Steve Cohen
ver suggestions you might have on this score or alternative ideas to improve this code. Steve Cohen wrote: Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: Hello Steve, what about using a class derived from EnumeratedAttribute as type for timest

Re: cvs commit: ant/src/etc/testcases/taskdefs/optional/net ftp.xml

2005-05-25 Thread Steve Cohen
Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: Hello Steve, what about using a class derived from EnumeratedAttribute as type for timestampGranularity ? Cheers, Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: scohen 2005/05/22 11:48:42 Modified:src/main/org/apache/tools/ant/taskdefs/optional/net FTP.java

installation instructions for ant under jpackage

2005-05-25 Thread Steve Cohen
There have been some comments on the jpackage.org mailing list to the effect that our manual doesn't really have correct installation instructions for that environment, although elsewhere on our site we do link to them. I have rewritten the install manual page to add this content, but rather

Re: [VOTE] Shut down the 1.6 branch after 1.6.5

2005-05-23 Thread Steve Cohen
Stefan Bodewig wrote: Hi, it's my strong belief that part of the reason the javah and move bugs made it into 1.6.3 is that our branches are living too long. The same happened to 1.5.2 (which required 1.5.3 quickly) because the 1.5 branch lived to long (IMHO). In my day-to-day Ant usage I use C

Re: [VOTE] Ant 1.6.5 release

2005-05-23 Thread Steve Cohen
Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: Hello, I propose to release Ant 1.6.5 on Thursday, June 2nd. This will be a pure bug fix release. [] Yes [] No Let's begin with my +1 Cheers, Antoine - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Can Ant know ANT_HOME?

2005-05-23 Thread Steve Cohen
Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2005, Antoine Levy-Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: we should add a line about in in the table explainning the different system properties used by Ant. Keep in mind that it is our wrapper script that sets the property. If you launch ant any other way

Re: Can Ant know ANT_HOME?

2005-05-22 Thread Steve Cohen
Alexey Solofnenko wrote: Please use ${ant.home} property. - Alexey. On 5/22/05, Steve Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am trying to write a simple build.xml for debugging Ant setups. One of the things I would like to know is what ANT_HOME was defined as when Ant launched. But this do

Can Ant know ANT_HOME?

2005-05-22 Thread Steve Cohen
I am trying to write a simple build.xml for debugging Ant setups. One of the things I would like to know is what ANT_HOME was defined as when Ant launched. But this does not seem to be a predefined ant property. I naively thought that I could do ANT_HOME=${env.ANT_HOME} this will not

Re: Release Notes Link Broken

2005-05-21 Thread Steve Cohen
Nachricht --- Von: Steve Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: Ant Developers List Betreff: Release Notes Link Broken Datum: Sat, 21 May 2005 06:15:06 -0500 The "release notes" link on http://ant.apache.org/srcdownload.cgi, which points to http://mirrons.combose.com/apache/ant/README.htm

Release Notes Link Broken

2005-05-21 Thread Steve Cohen
The "release notes" link on http://ant.apache.org/srcdownload.cgi, which points to http://mirrons.combose.com/apache/ant/README.html is broken. I get a 403 Forbidden error. Is this where the link should point? - To unsubscrib

Re: AW: cvs commit: ant/docs/manual/OptionalTasks ftp.html

2005-05-18 Thread Steve Cohen
an -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Alexey N. Solofnenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 18. Mai 2005 06:05 An: Ant Developers List Betreff: Re: cvs commit: ant/docs/manual/OptionalTasks ftp.html Actually, > is also not required. - Alexey. Steve Cohen wrote: To be hon

Re: cvs commit: ant/docs/manual/OptionalTasks ftp.html

2005-05-17 Thread Steve Cohen
Peter Reilly wrote: Martin Gainty wrote: Not to mention > and other escaped characters No, Dominique was correctly compaining about the needless escaping of the quote characters Peter Can the Ant mail server either parse the html escaped characters and insert the correct character representation

Re: FTP.isUpToDate()

2005-05-17 Thread Steve Cohen
Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: Do not worry if you are sure that the current behavior is buggy. Cheers, Antoine Well, I went and logged a bug on the issue thinking that this might provoke a little more discussion. Unfortunately, bugzilla seems to not have sent out an email about it, so it will get

Re: FTP.isUpToDate()

2005-05-16 Thread Steve Cohen
Martijn Kruithof wrote: Steve Cohen wrote: In trying to bring over new commons-net timezone functionaility, I discover the following: protected boolean isUpToDate(FTPClient ftp, File localFile, String remoteFile) throws IOException, BuildException

FTP.isUpToDate()

2005-05-15 Thread Steve Cohen
In trying to bring over new commons-net timezone functionaility, I discover the following: protected boolean isUpToDate(FTPClient ftp, File localFile, String remoteFile) throws IOException, BuildException { ... if (this.action == SEND_FILES) {

Re: [VOTE] include FTP task revisions in 1.6.4 release

2005-05-15 Thread Steve Cohen
Steve Cohen wrote: Shall the newly added FTP task revisions be incorporated into release 1.6.4? I'm withdrawing this vote request. Although commons-net functions as expected, the relationship with the FTP task is a little more complicated than I'd thought, and those who have expre

Re: [VOTE] include FTP task revisions in 1.6.4 release

2005-05-14 Thread Steve Cohen
Steve Loughran wrote: Steve Cohen wrote: Shall the newly added FTP task revisions be incorporated into release 1.6.4? Motivation: I understand this comes in "under the wire" and may cause justifiable trepidation among some. I still favor adding it to the release because: 1) The task

[VOTE] include FTP task revisions in 1.6.4 release

2005-05-14 Thread Steve Cohen
ools/ant/taskdefs/optional/net/FTPConfigurator.java (new) 1.2 /ant/docs/manual/OptionalTasks/FTP.html 1.32 /ant/docs/manual/install.html 1.83 /ant/lib/libraries.properties 1.3 Steve Cohen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECT

[VOTE] include FTP task revisions in 1.6.4 release

2005-05-14 Thread Steve Cohen
ools/ant/taskdefs/optional/net/FTPConfigurator.java (new) 1.2 /ant/docs/manual/OptionalTasks/FTP.html 1.32 /ant/docs/manual/install.html 1.83 /ant/lib/libraries.properties 1.3 Steve Cohen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For addit

Re: cvs commit: ant/docs/manual install.html

2005-05-13 Thread Steve Cohen
Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Thu, 12 May 2005, Steve Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't know, though, guys. What do you think? Is it really worth it to avoid making the users upgrade? For me it depends on when you wanted to see the new task. If you wanted to include it in 1.6.

Re: cvs commit: ant/docs/manual install.html

2005-05-12 Thread Steve Cohen
Steve Cohen wrote: Steve Cohen wrote: Stefan Bodewig wrote: On 12 May 2005, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: +For all users, a minimum version of commons-net of 1.4.0 is now required. Is this really true? I understand it is required to compile or if you use one of the new features. But

Re: cvs commit: ant/docs/manual install.html

2005-05-12 Thread Steve Cohen
Steve Cohen wrote: Stefan Bodewig wrote: On 12 May 2005, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: +For all users, a minimum version of commons-net of 1.4.0 is now required. Is this really true? I understand it is required to compile or if you use one of the new features. But if you use the sa

Re: cvs commit: ant/docs/manual install.html

2005-05-12 Thread Steve Cohen
Stefan Bodewig wrote: On 12 May 2005, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: +For all users, a minimum version of commons-net of 1.4.0 is now required. Is this really true? I understand it is required to compile or if you use one of the new features. But if you use the same way you did before and use

Re: AW: [patch] FTP.java - adding support for new features in com mons-net 1.4.0 and performance improvement

2005-05-12 Thread Steve Cohen
nformation by unintended recipients is prohibited. Any opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the author personally. Steve Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/05/2005 08:38:39 PM: Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: Steve Cohen wrote: However, it does seem to me that this test case is r

Re: [patch] FTP.java - adding support for new features in commons-net 1.4.0 and performance improvement

2005-05-12 Thread Steve Cohen
Jose Alberto Fernandez wrote: From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicola Ken Barozzi Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2005, Jose Alberto Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do not think we can continue maintaining tasks for every project in the world just because they do

Re: [patch] FTP.java - adding support for new features in commons-net 1.4.0 and performance improvement

2005-05-12 Thread Steve Cohen
Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2005, Steve Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I recently spent some time looking over jpackage.org. Have you guys seen this operation? More than that. We modified the Ant wrapper script to suit their needs, so that they could stop distributing their v

Re: [patch] FTP.java - adding support for new features in com mons-net 1.4.0 and performance improvement

2005-05-12 Thread Steve Cohen
Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2005, Steve Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the tests pass - why not? :-) I wanted to discuss "the tests" and what is meant by that. When I saw Jan's remark I thought he must have been joking. I wouldn'

Re: AW: [patch] FTP.java - adding support for new features in com mons-net 1.4.0 and performance improvement

2005-05-12 Thread Steve Cohen
Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: Steve Cohen wrote: However, it does seem to me that this test case is rather incomplete, and could be beefed up in several ways to test these and other recent features of commons-net which are not being tested here. Feel free to expand this test. I created this test

Re: AW: [patch] FTP.java - adding support for new features in com mons-net 1.4.0 and performance improvement

2005-05-11 Thread Steve Cohen
the author of the commons-net code that Mr. Praks is relying on, and an Ant committer, I would be happy to take a look at his code and "sponsor" it for the 1.6.4 release. I realize that there may be other deadlines here. What do other Ant committers think? Steve Cohen If the

Re: [patch] FTP.java - adding support for new features in commons-net 1.4.0 and performance improvement

2005-05-11 Thread Steve Cohen
Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2005, Steve Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Other parts of Mr. Praks' patch are less simple (retry handler, etc.) and I've asked him to remove those for now. These definitely belong in CVS_HEAD after the release. The release comes from a br

Re: [patch] FTP.java - adding support for new features in commons-net 1.4.0 and performance improvement

2005-05-11 Thread Steve Cohen
Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2005, Jose Alberto Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do not think we can continue maintaining tasks for every project in the world just because they do not want to depend on ANT. Calm down. We are talking about an existing Ant task that gets used a lot.

Re: [patch] FTP.java - adding support for new features in commons-net 1.4.0 and performance improvement

2005-05-11 Thread Steve Cohen
Neeme Praks wrote: Steve Loughran wrote: I worry about releasing any change to code without giving it time to stabilise and beta test. Last minute "this won't break anything" patches always break something. Always. At least in my experience. If commons1.4.0 is incompatible with shipping then ye

Re: [patch] FTP.java - adding support for new features in commons-net 1.4.0 and performance improvement

2005-05-11 Thread Steve Cohen
Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2005, Steve Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As the author of the commons-net code that Mr. Praks is relying on, and an Ant committer, I would be happy to take a look at his code and "sponsor" it for the 1.6.4 release. There is no need to sp

Re: [patch] FTP.java - adding support for new features in commons-net 1.4.0 and performance improvement

2005-05-10 Thread Steve Cohen
o that release? As the author of the commons-net code that Mr. Praks is relying on, and an Ant committer, I would be happy to take a look at his code and "sponsor" it for the 1.6.4 release. I realize that there may be other deadlines here. What do other Ant committers thi

Re: [Fwd: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Commons-Net 1.4.0 Released]

2005-05-10 Thread Steve Cohen
Steve Loughran wrote: Jose Alberto Fernandez wrote: From: Steve Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jose Alberto Fernandez wrote: Why not move the task or its new version into jakerta-commons and provide us with a ready to go feature full antlib. That would allow us to start decoupling things

Re: [Fwd: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Commons-Net 1.4.0 Released]

2005-05-10 Thread Steve Cohen
Jose Alberto Fernandez wrote: Why not move the task or its new version into jakerta-commons and provide us with a ready to go feature full antlib. That would allow us to start decoupling things from the main ANT release. Jose Alberto I have not been as active in Ant circles as in the past. Is dec

Re: [Fwd: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Commons-Net 1.4.0 Released]

2005-05-10 Thread Steve Cohen
Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2005, Steve Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In the next few weeks (months) I am intending to rework the task to take advantage of these new capabilities. Maybe Neeme Praks' patch[1] would provide a nice starting point? Stefan Footnotes:

[Fwd: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Commons-Net 1.4.0 Released]

2005-05-10 Thread Steve Cohen
The new release of jakarta-commons-1.4.0 contains some features that were specifically designed with Ant in mind. In particular the FTPClientConfig class was designed with the thought of enabling the enhancement of the ant task to 1. handle ftp servers with file listing formats that format da

Re: [VOTE] Release Plan for 1.6.2

2004-06-30 Thread Steve Cohen
+ 1 On Tuesday 29 June 2004 8:43 pm, Magesh Umasankar wrote: > From: Stefan Bodewig > Date: 2004-06-29 10:00:28 > > > * Release Candidate on Friday July 2 > > > > * If nothing major happens, Final Release on July 16. > > +1 > > Cheers, > Magesh > > -

Re: Ant 1.6.2 - where do we stand?

2004-06-29 Thread Steve Cohen
2004 1:50 am, Conor MacNeill wrote: > Steve, > > I did you a welcome to Ant email on 18-Jun to this email address. > Anyway, whatever, the vote passed and we are glad to have you aboard as > a committer. > > Conor > > Steve Cohen wrote: > > Stefan - >

Re: Ant 1.6.2 - where do we stand?

2004-06-29 Thread Steve Cohen
6:33 am, Stefan Bodewig wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Steve Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd do it myself, > > please do. > > > but I'm wondering what is the status of the committer vote that was > > taken on me a couple of weeks ago. > >

Re: Ant 1.6.2 - where do we stand?

2004-06-28 Thread Steve Cohen
FTP task was broken in some cases by changes in commons-net. These were fixed in the recent release 1.2.2 of commons-net. All that needs to happen in ant now is for the docs to be updated to mandate use of commons-net 1.2.2. I'd do it myself, but I'm wondering what is the status of the committ

[ANNOUNCEMENT][NET] jakarta-commons/net 1.2.2 Released

2004-06-26 Thread Steve Cohen
The Jakarta Commons team announces the release of version 1.2.2 of the Jakarta Commons/Net component. This release fixes a problem introduced with recently released version 1.2.0 in which file listings would not correctly 'remember' the current directory when no directory was specified. This ha

Fwd: [ANNOUNCEMENT][NET] jakarta-commons/net 1.2.1 Released (fix release)

2004-05-06 Thread Steve Cohen
pm From: Steve Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: announcements@jakarta.apache.org, commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org, commons-user@jakarta.apache.org The Jakarta Commons team announces the release of version 1.2.1 of the Jakarta Commons/Net component. This release fixes recently released version

[VOTE][NET] Release commons-net 1.2.1

2004-05-05 Thread Steve Cohen
This will be a fix release to fix the problem introduced in 1.2.0 that it will not compile using jdk < 1.4 and nothing else. Details at http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28775, which I've already fixed (and verified against jdk 1.2). Also, per the advice of Stephen Colburne, thi

Fwd: [ANNOUNCEMENT][NET] jakarta-commons/net 1.2 Released

2004-05-03 Thread Steve Cohen
in Ant's FTP task, for example, for these server types as well as the original unix. Steve Cohen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- End

Fwd: [ANNOUNCEMENT][NET] jakarta-commons/net 1.2 Released

2004-05-01 Thread Steve Cohen
use in Ant's FTP task, for example, for these server types as well as the original unix. Steve Cohen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- End Me

Re: possible patch for FTP task

2004-03-24 Thread Steve Cohen
away. On Tuesday 23 March 2004 3:28 pm, Antoine Lévy-Lambert wrote: > Hi Joe, > > I suggest you create a bugzilla report ( > http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla) concerning this, and you attach your > patch there. > I am not sure however whether this problem should best be handled in the

Re: PropertySet

2004-02-26 Thread Steve Cohen
Thanks, got it. Duh. Properties are immutable. I wasn't thinking. On Thursday 26 February 2004 7:15 am, Stefan Bodewig wrote: > On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Steve Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How do you negate a non-boolean property? How do you negate null? > > I

Re: PropertySet

2004-02-26 Thread Steve Cohen
On Thursday 26 February 2004 4:12 am, Stefan Bodewig wrote: > On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Matt Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have put together a patch for negating the selected > > properties of a PropertySet. > > Sounds useful. > > Stefan > >

Re: Incorrect documentation of FTP task [net]

2004-02-18 Thread Steve Cohen
? On Wednesday 18 February 2004 1:05 am, Daniel F. Savarese wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Cohen writes: > >You've built an interface to encapsulate the choice in regex > > implementations with automatic checking. Sweet! Perhaps we could port > &

Re: Incorrect documentation of FTP task [net]

2004-02-18 Thread Steve Cohen
On Tuesday 17 February 2004 8:27 pm, Steve Cohen wrote: > On Tuesday 17 February 2004 10:11 am, Dominique Devienne wrote: > > > From: Steve Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > While it is true that the CVS HEAD of commons-net is required and while > > &g

Re: Incorrect documentation of FTP task [net]

2004-02-18 Thread Steve Cohen
On Tuesday 17 February 2004 10:11 am, Dominique Devienne wrote: > > From: Steve Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > While it is true that the CVS HEAD of commons-net is required and while > > it is > > true that jakarta-oro is required (jakarta-oro is now requir

optional jars

2004-02-17 Thread Steve Cohen
Can someone please clarify the optional jar requirement for ant >= 1.6? The manual says in one place that you must build ant with the library dependencies present, and in another place (Installing ant-Optional Tasks) it states that you can simply drop the dependency jar into ant's lib directory

Incorrect documentation of FTP task

2004-02-17 Thread Steve Cohen
I see that someone has tried to incorporate my suggestion for using the latest commons-net.jar in order to use ant's task with NT-based servers. However, the documentation is not quite correct. It says: "To use the FTP task with Microsoft FTP servers, you need CVS HEAD of commons-net and jak

Re: ant 1.6.1

2004-01-16 Thread Steve Cohen
riday 16 January 2004 10:28 am, Peter Reilly wrote: > Steve Cohen wrote: > >On Friday 16 January 2004 4:56 am, Steve Loughran wrote: > >>Steve Cohen wrote: > >>>Another issue to consider. I don't know if it's strictly a 1.6.1 issue > >>>or furth

Re: New Launcher and JPackage RPMs

2004-01-16 Thread Steve Cohen
Please ignore. This last comment by me was added in a reply to the wrong message. On Friday 16 January 2004 11:18 am, Steve Cohen wrote: > Well, we at commons-net would have been rushing the release to meet ant's > "deadline" and there are internal refactorings which w

Re: New Launcher and JPackage RPMs

2004-01-16 Thread Steve Cohen
Well, we at commons-net would have been rushing the release to meet ant's "deadline" and there are internal refactorings which we would have liked to have included that we were planning to postpone in the rush, but now will take the time to get right, so I doubt that commons-net-1.2.0 will be do

Re: ant 1.6.1

2004-01-16 Thread Steve Cohen
On Friday 16 January 2004 4:56 am, Steve Loughran wrote: > Steve Cohen wrote: > > Another issue to consider. I don't know if it's strictly a 1.6.1 issue > > or further down the line but the ant developers should consider it. > > > > I have been working wi

Re: ant 1.6.1

2004-01-15 Thread Steve Cohen
ess than a week. It seems from this thread that these changes will come too late for ant 1.6.1. Please correct me if that's wrong. Can someone tell me what plans, if any, are contemplated for ant 1.6.2? Steve Cohen On Thursday 15 January 2004 9:50 am, Antoine Lévy-Lambert wrote: > Hi,

RE: groovy and ant

2003-12-12 Thread Steve Cohen
At first I thought you were making a joke, but I now see that these are serious people. More info on this language can be found at http://wiki.codehaus.org/groovy/FrontPage -Original Message- From: Peter Reilly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:54 AM To: Ant Dev

RE: [VOTE] Jose Alberto Fernandez as committer

2003-12-12 Thread Steve Cohen
I have no vote, but if I did it would be +1. I was surprised to learn, a few weeks ago, that Jose was not a committer. -Original Message- From: Antoine Lévy-Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:09 AM To: Ant Developers List Subject: [VOTE] Jose Alberto Fe

Re: Ant - Optional - FTP task for non-Unix FTP server.

2003-12-11 Thread Steve Cohen
Interesting that in the past week I have heard this complaint three times, (Bwhereas before I never heard it. (B (BSince I did a lot of the most recent work on the commons-net ftp parser stuff, (Band since I will be having some time on my hands with an upcoming layoff, I (Bwould like to tak

RE: bug fixes!! WAS: ant 1.6beta3 released

2003-12-09 Thread Steve Cohen
prungliche Nachricht----- Von: Steve Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Dezember 2003 16:14 An: Ant Developers List Betreff: RE: bug fixes!! WAS: ant 1.6beta3 released There are improvements to commons-net over the old NetComponents to handle Windows FTP servers. However, the ant ta

RE: bug fixes!! WAS: ant 1.6beta3 released

2003-12-09 Thread Steve Cohen
There are improvements to commons-net over the old NetComponents to handle Windows FTP servers. However, the ant tasks would need to be recoded to take advantage of these. -Original Message- From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:48 AM To: [EMAI

test

2003-12-01 Thread Steve Cohen
test

RE: Ant 1.6 local and macrodef attributes

2003-11-29 Thread Steve Cohen
Thanks, Jacob, for continuing to pursue this, and deepening my awareness of the problem. I appreciate your dilemma, even though I still agree with what has become consensus that textual substitution is right for . The whole business with the scope of properties is already complicated enough.

RE: Macrodef attributes and Local revisited again

2003-11-27 Thread Steve Cohen
Peter - >>but if macrodef properties are to be implemented as textual substitution >>and not as local properties, the two issues can be separated. Did you mean to say "but if macrodef ATTRIBUTES are to be implemented as textual substitution and not as local properties ..." Or are you talking ab

RE: Ant 1.6 local and macrodef attributes

2003-11-26 Thread Steve Cohen
Not a committer but my votes on Jose's ballots: 1) Vote on @{x} as the syntax for textual substitutions of attributes in . +1 2) Vote on , must include decision on syntax, scope (i.e., passing things on & co., etc.) I do not think all these have been settle. 0 -Original Message- From:

RE: macrodef - do attributes as properties or substitutions

2003-11-19 Thread Steve Cohen
True, that was from the 1.4/1.5 days. -Original Message- From: Dominique Devienne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 8:52 AM To: 'Ant Developers List' Subject: RE: macrodef - do attributes as properties or substitutions > From: Steve Cohen [

RE: [VOTE] macrodef - do attributes as properties or substitutions

2003-11-18 Thread Steve Cohen
What about {$x}? Or is it too close to a typo for a regular property? way too confusing, IMHO. And departs significant from our "pattern" which seems to be identifier type marker, open curly brace, identifier, close curly brace The more I look at this, the clearer my clear choice becomes for @{

RE: macrodef - do attributes as properties or substitutions

2003-11-18 Thread Steve Cohen
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 2:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: macrodef - do attributes as properties or substitutions > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think we should need any special cludge

RE: [VOTE] macrodef - do attributes as properties or substitutions

2003-11-17 Thread Steve Cohen
Another non committer here. I don't like $(x) because it looks too much like ${x}, although I suppose I could get used to that. Therfore, I am drawn to @{x}. ${attribute:x} is possible but way too much typing for my taste. Abbreviated to ${att:x} or ${attrib:x} my negativity level goes down accor

RE: macrodef - do attributes as properties or substitutions

2003-11-12 Thread Steve Cohen
>> "I want macrodef for when all I need to do is to put toguether a group of calls to other tasks in a sequence, which could be quite complex, but it does not require any additional computation from my part" Hear, hear! Used in this way, you can use ant, cutting out expensive calls and most 's

RE: macrodef - do attributes as properties or substitutions

2003-11-11 Thread Steve Cohen
Wouldn't you say, though, Jose, that does replace those uses of for which had too big a footprint for the job? -Original Message- From: Jose Alberto Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:19 AM To: Ant Developers List Subject: RE: macrodef - do attrib

RE: [VOTE] macrodef - do attributes as properties or substitutions

2003-11-11 Thread Steve Cohen
I don't have a vote but if I did, I'd be [X] as textual substitution [ ] as "real" Ant properties -Original Message- From: Dominique Devienne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:14 AM To: 'Ant Developers List' Subject: RE: [VOTE] macrodef - do attributes as pr

RE: attributes as properties or as textual substitutions [was ]

2003-11-05 Thread Steve Cohen
her. If we are going to introduce macros in ant, I think that the clarity of knowing that they are defined at load time, and not at runtime is an advantage. has never been a good way to do "templates". Although I might be open to a convincing counter-example. Steve Cohen Sr. Software

RE: attributes as properties or as textual substitutions [was ]

2003-11-05 Thread Steve Cohen
erent sorts of beasts and this should not be muddied. Steve Cohen Sr. Software Engineer Sportvision, Inc. scohenATSportvisionDOTcom -Original Message- From: Jose Alberto Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:30 AM To: Ant Developers List Subject: RE: attri

RE: MARC - spam enabler

2003-11-03 Thread Steve Cohen
ED] Subject: Re: MARC - spam enabler On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, Steve Cohen wrote: > Can't MARC be fixed to munge email addresses? Even if it could, it wouldn't help you. > but whenever I am replied to, my full unmunged email address gets > published in MARC. I've j

MARC - spam enabler

2003-10-31 Thread Steve Cohen
back at myself. I just got rid of one email address, and soon I'll be forced to do so again. Can nothing be done about this? Steve Cohen Sr. Software Engineer Sportvision, Inc. scohenATSportvisionDOTcom

RE: attributes as properties or as textual substitutions [was ]

2003-10-31 Thread Steve Cohen
ntoine's question is whether the new notation would have to be scrapped for the new implementation of local in 1.7 or whether it would still apply. Unless this is going to delay the release for months, I would say, get it right, now. Steve Cohen Sr. Software Engineer Sportvision, Inc. scohenATSpor

RE: Tale from the front: macrodef nesting

2003-10-27 Thread Steve Cohen
: Tale from the front: macrodef nesting > From: Steve Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You're correct about working around this problem. However, I think > it's still a problem that the same ${identifier} notation can either > indicate a macrodef attribute or an a

RE: Tale from the front: macrodef nesting

2003-10-27 Thread Steve Cohen
to Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 5:37 AM To: Ant Developers List Subject: RE: Tale from the front: macrodef nesting > From: Steve Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I am now trying to experiment with some of the new features > of ant 1.6. He

RE: Question about MacroDef vs antcall

2003-10-26 Thread Steve Cohen
: Ant Developers List Cc: Subject:Re: Question about MacroDef vs antcall On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 03:18 am, Steve Cohen wrote: > The new ant features wiki > > http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?NewAntFeaturesInDetail/MacroDe >f > > says: > > "

Tale from the front: macrodef nesting

2003-10-26 Thread Steve Cohen
I am now trying to experiment with some of the new features of ant 1.6. Here's a real-world example of the difficulties of trying to replace antcalls with macrodefs. Given the following definitions, notice that I am trying to nest a call to the macrodef make.precompiled.web.xml inside a call to

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