Wouldn't you say, though, Jose, that <macrodef> does replace those uses of <antcall> for which <antcall> had too big a footprint for the job?
-----Original Message----- From: Jose Alberto Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:19 AM To: Ant Developers List Subject: RE: macrodef - do attributes as properties or substitutions I think I need to justify some more what do I think the way I do about macrodef. I know the vote is already going, but I really want for people to understand my position. To me macrodefs are for writing all those tasks that I am too lazy, or they are too simple for me to need to go and write and maintain some Java code. It is not to replace <antcall/> but as a side efect, it will replace all those little antcalls we wrote because we didn't want to write java. With that in mind, I would want <macrodef> to resemble a Java task and not to resemble <ant(call)>. And if it resemples a java task, then attributes should resemble java variables in my code. That is, its values should not affect the values of properties (which is what <local> does). If I want a task to affect other tasks then I can always call <property> or <local> as part of the macro. But if <atributes> modify properties, then there is no way for me to stop them for happening. Substitution is the least interfearing behavior. So, that is why I think the way I do. Comments? changes of votes? :-) Jose Alberto > -----Original Message----- > From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 November 2003 12:23 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [VOTE] macrodef - do attributes as properties or > substitutions > > > Hi, > > I don't think that another discussion thread will lead us > anywhere. Instead of trying to summarize what has been > discussed, let me point to the archives (I hope the list is complete): > <http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=106085269000002&r=1&w=2> <http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=106633643100003&r=1&w=2> <http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=106675058100005&r=1&w=2> <http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=106639175600004&r=1&w=2> <http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=106672947100005&r=1&w=2> <http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=106720903000001&r=1&w=2> <http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=106761809300003&r=1&w=2> I'd like to keep this particular vote focussed on property versus textual substitution. I am aware that the vote won't be complete after that as we'll still have issues to decide upon (scope+extent or notation, depending on this vote's outcome), but let's get this one here straight first. Actually, I'm not 100% sure about the rules we have to apply since we've already shipped betas with the code, so strictly speaking a decision we are considering a code change which would require (lazy) consensus of the committers as opposed to a new idea that would require a majority only. Let's see where we get from here and whether we'll have to actually decide that at all 8-) Stefan OK, how do we want to implement <macrodef> attributes: [ ] as textual substitution [ ] as "real" Ant properties --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
