Re: EasyAnt phases

2008-11-11 Thread Jeffrey E Care
"Remie Bolte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 11/11/2008 11:05:48 AM: > Can you explain the concept of targets being able to add themselfs as > dependencies? > I can't really picture this :) I wasn't involved in the definition of this so don't take my word as gospel, but this is my understanding:

Re: Names of import/include

2008-11-11 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2008-11-11, Dominique Devienne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:21 AM, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> after I've added include I'm not too sure about its name. What we >> call "import" is called "extends" by EasyAnt and our "include" is >> EasyAnt's "use".

Re: EasyAnt phases

2008-11-11 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2008-11-11, Matt Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally I would prefer supporting arbitrary > attributes on targets. That would be easy to do. > This would be less specific to EasyAnt and could have mileage for > other Ant extensions. I read this as "I don't want the feature in core

Re: EasyAnt phases

2008-11-11 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2008-11-11, Remie Bolte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you explain the concept of targets being able to add themselfs as > dependencies? > I can't really picture this :) You have one build file with something like as a template for Java compilation. This one gets imported or incl

AntXtras + Ant 1.8 (unhappy duo apparently)

2008-11-11 Thread Wascally Wabbit
Hi all-- A message for Matt: I believe you've been trying to contact re some changes to Ant 1.8, PropertyHelper, and possible (negative) impact to antxtras.sf.net. Sorry I've been nose-to-the-grindstone for several months and haven't really been paying much attention to ant-dev. Last I recall t

Re: EasyAnt phases

2008-11-11 Thread Matt Benson
--- Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > EasyAnt has a concept named "phase" which is some > special sort of > target. The main differences: > > * is always empty > > * its depends list is open for other targets to > modify, i.e. targets > may add themselves as dependenci

Re: EasyAnt phases

2008-11-11 Thread Remie Bolte
Hi, Can you explain the concept of targets being able to add themselfs as dependencies? I can't really picture this :) Cheers, Remie On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > EasyAnt has a concept named "phase" which is some special sort of > ta

Re: EasyAnt phases

2008-11-11 Thread Dominique Devienne
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Without going into implementation details, do we want to add the > concept itself to Ant's core? +1 on the concept. Back in the days trying to design reusable builds around Ant's import, this would have made my life tons

Re: Names of import/include

2008-11-11 Thread Dominique Devienne
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:21 AM, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > after I've added include I'm not too sure about its name. What we > call "import" is called "extends" by EasyAnt and our "include" is > EasyAnt's "use". First, it's a good description of the consequences of the current a

Re: EasyAnt phases

2008-11-11 Thread Jeffrey E Care
-0 on the concept; my preference would be to let the function prove it's usefulness in EasyAnt & move it into core later if it truly proves useful -1 on the "phase" name +1 on using "target-group" for the name __

Re: IvyDE 2.0 roadmap

2008-11-11 Thread Nicolas Lalevée
Le 11 nov. 08 à 11:49, Scheper, Erik-Berndt a écrit : Well, 'qxo' is definitely not me (or I would know how to reproduce IVYDE-130 ;-) ok :) And I agree with your comment on IVYDE-128. Personally I have absolutely no need for this to be fixed. I was just wondering what to do with the

Re: How about moving all SCM and EJB tasks into Antlibs?

2008-11-11 Thread Stefan Bodewig
OK, I consider the answer to be "no, let's keep them in Ant main." Stefan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

EasyAnt phases

2008-11-11 Thread Stefan Bodewig
Hi all, EasyAnt has a concept named "phase" which is some special sort of target. The main differences: * is always empty * its depends list is open for other targets to modify, i.e. targets may add themselves as dependencies to a phase. It has been suggested to rename "phase" to "target-gro

Names of import/include

2008-11-11 Thread Stefan Bodewig
Hi all, after I've added include I'm not too sure about its name. What we call "import" is called "extends" by EasyAnt and our "include" is EasyAnt's "use". I will reproduce the "how is import different from include" section I added to both manual pages to give you the full background. What nam

Re: EasyAnt / vs

2008-11-11 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2008-11-10, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right now I'm pretty close to simply add an "as" attribute to import, > add "include" as an alias name for import and make the task behave > differently when it is called as include. Done. The implementation differs from EasyAnt's and we

Re: Experimentation around dependency analysis

2008-11-11 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2008-11-11, Gilles Scokart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My experimentation has now taken the form of a project on source > forge [1]. Looks interesting. I'm not questioning your choice of sf.net, but I hopw you know that Ant's sandbox is open for you as well. Stefan

RE: IvyDE 2.0 roadmap

2008-11-11 Thread Scheper, Erik-Berndt
Well, 'qxo' is definitely not me (or I would know how to reproduce IVYDE-130 ;-) And I agree with your comment on IVYDE-128. Personally I have absolutely no need for this to be fixed. I was just wondering what to do with these two issues as they are currently part of the 2.0 roadmap. One ot

Re: IvyDE 2.0 roadmap

2008-11-11 Thread Nicolas Lalevée
Le 11 nov. 08 à 10:49, Scheper, Erik-Berndt a écrit : Hi, Declaring ivyde as beta seems fine to me. I don't have many problems with the latest version. What about IVYDE-128 and IVYDE-130? These are currently in the 2.0 roadmap. Although I must say that I have no idea how to reproduce IVY

Re: Experimentation around dependency analysis

2008-11-11 Thread Gilles Scokart
My experimentation has now taken the form of a project on source forge [1]. I currently have an ant task that validates that a compile path is minimal. I plan to add a report that help to identify why a library is used, add support to analyze runtime dependencies and integrate that with maven. Fo

RE: IvyDE 2.0 roadmap

2008-11-11 Thread Scheper, Erik-Berndt
Hi, Declaring ivyde as beta seems fine to me. I don't have many problems with the latest version. What about IVYDE-128 and IVYDE-130? These are currently in the 2.0 roadmap. Although I must say that I have no idea how to reproduce IVYDE-130. I certainly have never seen anything like it. R

Re: About

2008-11-11 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2008-11-11, j2ee6610 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what's resolveexecutable? an attribute of the exec task. > how do I set it? http://ant.apache.org/manual/CoreTasks/exec.html Stefan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECT