The 'white spaces' are gone too.
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Closing this bug, since Dapper is now frozen and the logout dialog
design won't change before release. Feel free to open specific bugs for
issues that haven't been reported yet. We'll talk about this again for
edgy :)
** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed => Fix Released
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Sounds a bit like the gnome approache, except it replaces the small
dialogs with submenus. I quite like the idea.
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After having read through this bug's comments, here are my two cents.
1) The "lock screen" item should not be treated differently than
suspend/hibernate. They are all options that are a) potentially
timer-controlled and automatic and b) have no bearing on the current gnome
session other than t
I agree. the new interface is clunky, and extremely large. When I first
saw it, I had to take a step back to see the whole thing as a dialog
instead of as a window. I think it needs to be smaller and more sleek.
** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu)
Status: Unconfirmed => Confirmed
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I should point out bug 45173 here since it definitely falls into the
category of "logout dialog UI objection".
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Doh of course. Exuse me please.
I will search the open bug list and if it´s not allready there open a
new one.
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Thilo, please don't abuse that bug to describe totally different issues,
that one has nothing to do with the bug you are commenting on
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> I use a shortcut to logout.
This got lost in one of the latest updates.
A shortcut for the logout screen is no more available right now.
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fre, 12 05 2006 kl. 17:29 +, skrev Mark Shuttleworth:
> I understand your concern, but I think you'll
> see when the correct icon is in place that this becomes rather obvious.
You shouldn't really depend too much on icons. Some people disable them,
some people can't see them (bad sight), and so
The icon that was intended to be there for MONTHS now, has never been
put there. That is a little frustrating, but until the correct icon is
in place we can't tell. I understand your concern, but I think you'll
see when the correct icon is in place that this becomes rather obvious.
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As I can see this debate on the logout GUI keeps going on, all I can say
is that when i told my dad to "shut down the pc" he couldn't find any
reseanoble item in the system menu which seemed to perform this task,
that "logout" thing made no sense to him at all. I can't see why you're
putting all th
The problem you mention is addressed in bug 39371.
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Sorta off topic, but has anybody noticed how when you select log out the
background colors become dithered and look a little strange? It seems like it
should just change the brightness (i.e. dim the background, not saturate it...)
Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere, I couldn't find anything
Daniel Holbach wrote:
> Mark, what do you think about those? Shall I send Dave a copy and hear
> his opinion or shall I include Manu's icons in the next ubuntu-artwork
> update?
>
We are still waiting for the SVG versions. Yes, I think it's worth
asking Dave to comment on those, and if he likes
Mark, what do you think about those? Shall I send Dave a copy and hear
his opinion or shall I include Manu's icons in the next ubuntu-artwork
update?
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In the three icons above, the best way would still be to fix the SVG
directly. If somebody makes them available, I can do that.
** Attachment added: "Clean hibernate icon"
http://librarian.launchpad.net/2322368/gnome-session-hibernate.png
** Attachment added: "Clean suspend icon"
http://lib
Just to be clear what the final state should be, the System menu should
only have the Quit (power on/off) menu item, which is the same as what
is on the panel. So whether you go through the System menu or the panel
you get the same dialog and choices. Ryan, this is final for Dapper.
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from where do you get the suspend,hibernate stat (I'm not taking the
decision for that dialog and just curious on that)? Note that lock being
to the menu can be "fixed" quickly (a menu item is easy to drop) if
that's what bothers you (but I don't think that's the point)
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Is there any chance of getting the default behaviour changed to match upstream?
The upstream solution is very clearly _more sane_ (even if it doesn't have all
of the functionality/flash of the Ubuntu one).
Some things to keep in mind:
- Lock is already on the menu
- Suspend/hibernate don't eve
>note than you can run gnome-session-save to store the current session
:D
You made my day. thanks
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note than you can run gnome-session-save to store the current session
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Thilo, the save session issue is known and happens with upstream dialog
as well as with the Ubuntu one
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I also have problems with the logout window.
I have tried that:
> People who want to use the upstream dialogs are free to do so,
> you just have to change /apps/panel/global/upstream_session
> key to true with gconf-editor
But this works only when clicking on the logout button.
I use a shotcut to
> People who want to use the upstream dialogs are free to do so,
> you just have to change /apps/panel/global/upstream_session
> key to true with gconf-editor
Wow, thanks !!! I didn't know it was so easy to do, just did it and indeed
works like a charm ! :o)
> Vincent, we appreciate your enthou
Tony, themable icons is bug #40314
People who want to use the upstream dialogs are free to do so, you just have to
change /apps/panel/global/upstream_session key to true with gconf-editor (as
documented by the package changelog)
Jonathon, upstream dialogs have no sleep nor hibernate option, isn
> The GNOME upstream solution provides an organized, HIG compliant
> way for the user to select between the various ways to end a session.
> For the reasons outlined above, I feel that the upstream session dialogs will
> provide the most polished experience for users and I urge Ubuntu devs to at
We find ourselves with a difficult decision to make. Two solutions exist for
one problem and unfortunately one must be discarded. However, we should not
allow this fact to prevent us from pragmatically surveying the options and
selecting the one which best fits the project. It is with that in mi
Now, I will first agree that there should be some work on making icons
match other things, and having them be themable would be great, but it
sounds like a lot of people are on that already. The main thing that
irked me about the dialogue was the sheer size. I mean, it takes up
what, 25% of the t
I don't know what your plans with switch-user and lock are, but those two icons
are images now while the others are abstract symbols. This already was so
previously, only now the logout icon is a symbol, too. Maybe this arrowmania
could be amplified with the following new icons:
* lock-screen:
About the new icons, I have two requests (and I am attaching a screenshot and a
mockup for them) :
1) In sleep and hibernate icons, there is a small problem in the center (some
kind of white rectangular shape), see on the screenshot, I have magnified the
two zones.
2) The fact that nearly all
My latest patch solves these problems (cancel button and Esc button),
but as Sebastien said it has not yet been uploaded.
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esc for cancel is bug #39982 and is fixed by a patch update blocked by
the betaCD freeze at the moment
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1) Manu, can you make Esc trigger the cancel function of the dialog? Especially
since the dialog-launcher uses so much screen-estate (the corner of the screen;
whether that's appropriate is a different discussion), it's nice to get rid of
it quickly.
2) I really like the logout icon, it's far n
the cancel button issue is known as bug #40027
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You are aware of the fact that the Cancel button in the current version changes
size depending on what you mouseover?
(this last checked in dapper from 2006-04-18)
About the UI in general, I seldom logout or switch user on my machine since I'm
a single user, I do reboot quite often since i dual-
the new icon set rolled today makes the dialog look ugly as the small verssion
of the log out icon show up instead of the larger. It's obviously wrong.
I don't dislike the dialog at all, and I think it could be the final version.
No need for big changes
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I thought about this thing while reading Andreas Post in the Forums. I have no
real preference for any of the dialogs, but I want to share my thoughts.
I think there are basically two motivations, which can drive the user to end
his session:
1. he wants to change the state of the PC (reboot, shu
And about the last thing (Cancel button and help labels), the problem is
solved, the patch will be uploaded very soon.
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This last comment is more about wording/small bugs than the dialog itself. The
system menu's entry will be renamed (we're just searching for the right word to
use, currently we're thinking of "Exit...").
The lock screen entry will probably be removed, since it is available in the
logout dialog.
I am sorry if what I'll be saying might sound blunt, but I find the new logout
dialog totally useless and very, very inconsistent. Not only is its layout not
in keep with gnome's HIG, but what I find disturbing is that it lacks
consistence:
- why not provide all the options straight in the gnom
If this amateur UI nerd can throw into the fray...
Part of the problem is the decision to make a switch to a full dialog from a
pulldown menu. Presumably this is inspired by a desire for consistency with
Windows.
The irony is, within the various Gnome metaphors, what's needed is an inverse
of
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The new dialog also does not allow you to save your session. See also #6687
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I would like to comment in favor of the current dialog box. First of all it
looks good. Second, even though it's not using standard buttons it's very
clear what one should do -- click one of the icons. The combination of text and
icons is also good -- usually the icons are enough, but if they'r
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