Re: A Radeon and X question, probably not Debian specific

2002-07-23 Thread Charl P. Botha
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 05:36:34PM -0600, Jeff Lessem wrote: > I have question about XFree86 4.2.0 and the Radeon driver. This is > probably not a Debian specific problem, but I thought I would ask here > before going to one of the general XFree86 lists. I am using the > 4.2.0pre1v1 packages. > T

Re: "Fatal server error" when running "XFree86 -configure" on 4.2.0-pre1v1

2002-07-23 Thread Steinar Bang
> Steinar Bang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Steinar Bang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Platform: AMD Athlon (TM) XP 2000+, 512MB RAM >> debian testing (dist-upgrade from yesterday), >> ABIT Siluro GF4 Ti4400 screen card > This card uses the same chip set as the GeForce4 card, and

Re: discover, read-edid, mdetect selection in base-config

2002-07-23 Thread Steinar Bang
> Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > One big fumble in 3.0 is that we didn't get things set up so the > automatic X setup can be easily done on new installs. That requires, > I understand, the discover, read-edid, and mdetect packages be > installed before X (xserver-xfree86?) is preconfigured.

Re: discover, read-edid, mdetect selection in base-config

2002-07-23 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 10:48:56PM -0500, Branden Robinson écrivait: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 07:05:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > [...] > > That doesn't quite take care of getting them onto the first CD though. > > And it's a bunch of special purpose code I would like to avoid > > maintaining, if

Re: discover, read-edid, mdetect selection in base-config

2002-07-23 Thread Chris Halls
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 07:05:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > And it's a bunch of special purpose code I would like to avoid > maintaining, if there is any better way anyone can think of. How about an additional package instead, e.g. xserver-xfree86-autodetect, that pre-depends on the detection pac

Re: A Radeon and X question, probably not Debian specific

2002-07-23 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 09:45, Charl P. Botha wrote: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 05:36:34PM -0600, Jeff Lessem wrote: > > If your major interest is fast 3d, you could also download a Radeon binary > snapshot from dri.sf.net. These tarballs are small and install over an > existing XFree86 4.2.0 instal

Re: discover, read-edid, mdetect selection in base-config

2002-07-23 Thread Philip Hands
On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 09:30, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Le Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 10:48:56PM -0500, Branden Robinson écrivait: > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 07:05:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > [...] > > > That doesn't quite take care of getting them onto the first CD though. > > > And it's a bunch of

Re: A Radeon and X question, probably not Debian specific

2002-07-23 Thread John Lenton
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 05:36:34PM -0600, Jeff Lessem wrote: > (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA AFAIK, you've got to turn xinerama off if you want DRI to work. To test, no need to touch the config files, just 'startx -- +xinerama' (or was that -xinerama?) -- John Lenton ([EMAIL PROT

Re: discover, read-edid, mdetect selection in base-config

2002-07-23 Thread Joey Hess
Philip Hands wrote: > The packages are already on there, mostly. They just don't get used > because there's nothing to get them installed before X. > > Hm, not certain I commited that change though, because it seemed like a > nasty hack to me, since it would be nice if they were on there for > d

Re: discover, read-edid, mdetect selection in base-config

2002-07-23 Thread Joey Hess
Chris Halls wrote: > How about an additional package instead, e.g. xserver-xfree86-autodetect, > that pre-depends on the detection packages and depends on xserver-xfree86? > Architectures that don't support autodetection can omit the packages from > the dependencies of xserver-xfree86-autodetect fo

Re: discover, read-edid, mdetect selection in base-config

2002-07-23 Thread Stuart Ballard
Joey Hess wrote: Chris Halls wrote: How about an additional package instead, e.g. xserver-xfree86-autodetect, that pre-depends on the detection packages and depends on xserver-xfree86? Architectures that don't support autodetection can omit the packages from the dependencies of xserver-xfree86-

Re: discover, read-edid, mdetect selection in base-config

2002-07-23 Thread John Lenton
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 07:05:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > That doesn't quite take care of getting them onto the first CD though. > And it's a bunch of special purpose code I would like to avoid > maintaining, if there is any better way anyone can think of. isn't "a bunch of special purpose code

Re: discover, read-edid, mdetect selection in base-config

2002-07-23 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 11:56:14AM -0400, Joey Hess écrivait: > I was told they are scattered amoung the first three cd's. Discover was already on the first CD. I don't know for the two other packages. Anyway, they'll be on the first CD next time we build a CD set (if Phil uses the latest CVS vers

Intel I830M and X 4.2 (again)

2002-07-23 Thread Daniel DiPaolo
Well, I've done a bit of work on my own and come up with a new batch of questions for round 2. So, here goes. I tried doing the drop-in of the aforementioned patch[0], but the biggest problem I ran into was the fact that the "Hunk succeeded" messages weren't being surpressed on it for some reason

Re: discover, read-edid, mdetect selection in base-config

2002-07-23 Thread Philip Hands
On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 18:17, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Le Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 11:56:14AM -0400, Joey Hess écrivait: > > I was told they are scattered amoung the first three cd's. > > Discover was already on the first CD. I don't know for the two other > packages. Anyway, they'll be on the first CD

Re: Unicode compose map?

2002-07-23 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
NV> I recently switched to the en_US.UTF-8 locale. In NV> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale, I see the compose maps for the various NV> character sets, however there isnt one for en_US.UTF-8. As far as I can NV> tell, this locale uses the compose map from iso8859-1 (though I couldnt NV> figure out how/wh

Re: xdm 4.2.0pre1v1 troubles

2002-07-23 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Russell Neches <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.07.23.0011 +0200]: > Does gdm start and present a login window? What does it do when you > attempt to log in? Have you tried each of the various sessions it > gives you? It does the same as I described for xdm in the original post. And no sessi

Re: xdm 4.2.0pre1v1 troubles

2002-07-23 Thread Alex Romosan
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > now i can get to start with startx and it works perfectly (and sooo > fast thanks to the 4.2 ATI radeon driver). however, i can't get xdm > to work. it displays the login window, when i enter the information, > the screen goes black for about 5 seconds

Re: A Radeon and X question, probably not Debian specific

2002-07-23 Thread Charl P. Botha
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 05:36:34PM -0600, Jeff Lessem wrote: > I have question about XFree86 4.2.0 and the Radeon driver. This is > probably not a Debian specific problem, but I thought I would ask here > before going to one of the general XFree86 lists. I am using the > 4.2.0pre1v1 packages. >

Re: "Fatal server error" when running "XFree86 -configure" on4.2.0-pre1v1

2002-07-23 Thread Steinar Bang
> Steinar Bang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Steinar Bang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Platform: AMD Athlon (TM) XP 2000+, 512MB RAM >> debian testing (dist-upgrade from yesterday), >> ABIT Siluro GF4 Ti4400 screen card > This card uses the same chip set as the GeForce4 card, an

Re: discover, read-edid, mdetect selection in base-config

2002-07-23 Thread Steinar Bang
> Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > One big fumble in 3.0 is that we didn't get things set up so the > automatic X setup can be easily done on new installs. That requires, > I understand, the discover, read-edid, and mdetect packages be > installed before X (xserver-xfree86?) is preconfigured.

Re: discover, read-edid, mdetect selection in base-config

2002-07-23 Thread Chris Halls
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 07:05:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > And it's a bunch of special purpose code I would like to avoid > maintaining, if there is any better way anyone can think of. How about an additional package instead, e.g. xserver-xfree86-autodetect, that pre-depends on the detection pa

Re: A Radeon and X question, probably not Debian specific

2002-07-23 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 09:45, Charl P. Botha wrote: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 05:36:34PM -0600, Jeff Lessem wrote: > > If your major interest is fast 3d, you could also download a Radeon binary > snapshot from dri.sf.net. These tarballs are small and install over an > existing XFree86 4.2.0 insta

Re: discover, read-edid, mdetect selection in base-config

2002-07-23 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 10:48:56PM -0500, Branden Robinson écrivait: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 07:05:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > [...] > > That doesn't quite take care of getting them onto the first CD though. > > And it's a bunch of special purpose code I would like to avoid > > maintaining, i

Re: discover, read-edid, mdetect selection in base-config

2002-07-23 Thread Philip Hands
On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 09:30, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Le Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 10:48:56PM -0500, Branden Robinson écrivait: > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 07:05:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > [...] > > > That doesn't quite take care of getting them onto the first CD though. > > > And it's a bunch of

Re: A Radeon and X question, probably not Debian specific

2002-07-23 Thread John Lenton
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 05:36:34PM -0600, Jeff Lessem wrote: > (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA AFAIK, you've got to turn xinerama off if you want DRI to work. To test, no need to touch the config files, just 'startx -- +xinerama' (or was that -xinerama?) -- John Lenton ([EMAIL PRO

Re: discover, read-edid, mdetect selection in base-config

2002-07-23 Thread Joey Hess
Chris Halls wrote: > How about an additional package instead, e.g. xserver-xfree86-autodetect, > that pre-depends on the detection packages and depends on xserver-xfree86? > Architectures that don't support autodetection can omit the packages from > the dependencies of xserver-xfree86-autodetect f

Re: discover, read-edid, mdetect selection in base-config

2002-07-23 Thread Stuart Ballard
Joey Hess wrote: > Chris Halls wrote: > >>How about an additional package instead, e.g. xserver-xfree86-autodetect, >>that pre-depends on the detection packages and depends on xserver-xfree86? >>Architectures that don't support autodetection can omit the packages from >>the dependencies of xserve

Re: discover, read-edid, mdetect selection in base-config

2002-07-23 Thread John Lenton
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 07:05:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > That doesn't quite take care of getting them onto the first CD though. > And it's a bunch of special purpose code I would like to avoid > maintaining, if there is any better way anyone can think of. isn't "a bunch of special purpose cod

Re: discover, read-edid, mdetect selection in base-config

2002-07-23 Thread Joey Hess
Philip Hands wrote: > The packages are already on there, mostly. They just don't get used > because there's nothing to get them installed before X. > > Hm, not certain I commited that change though, because it seemed like a > nasty hack to me, since it would be nice if they were on there for >

Re: discover, read-edid, mdetect selection in base-config

2002-07-23 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 11:56:14AM -0400, Joey Hess écrivait: > I was told they are scattered amoung the first three cd's. Discover was already on the first CD. I don't know for the two other packages. Anyway, they'll be on the first CD next time we build a CD set (if Phil uses the latest CVS ver

Intel I830M and X 4.2 (again)

2002-07-23 Thread Daniel DiPaolo
Well, I've done a bit of work on my own and come up with a new batch of questions for round 2. So, here goes. I tried doing the drop-in of the aforementioned patch[0], but the biggest problem I ran into was the fact that the "Hunk succeeded" messages weren't being surpressed on it for some reaso

Re: Unicode compose map?

2002-07-23 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
NV> I recently switched to the en_US.UTF-8 locale. In NV> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale, I see the compose maps for the various NV> character sets, however there isnt one for en_US.UTF-8. As far as I can NV> tell, this locale uses the compose map from iso8859-1 (though I couldnt NV> figure out how/w

Re: xdm 4.2.0pre1v1 troubles

2002-07-23 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Russell Neches <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.07.23.0011 +0200]: > Does gdm start and present a login window? What does it do when you > attempt to log in? Have you tried each of the various sessions it > gives you? It does the same as I described for xdm in the original post. And no sess

Re: discover, read-edid, mdetect selection in base-config

2002-07-23 Thread Philip Hands
On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 18:17, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Le Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 11:56:14AM -0400, Joey Hess écrivait: > > I was told they are scattered amoung the first three cd's. > > Discover was already on the first CD. I don't know for the two other > packages. Anyway, they'll be on the first C

Re: xdm 4.2.0pre1v1 troubles

2002-07-23 Thread Alex Romosan
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > now i can get to start with startx and it works perfectly (and sooo > fast thanks to the 4.2 ATI radeon driver). however, i can't get xdm > to work. it displays the login window, when i enter the information, > the screen goes black for about 5 second