Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Joshua Shagam wrote: >It would be nice if the XFree 4 packages had a 'Conflicts: utah-glx' in it, >but as has been said already, you ARE running Debian *usntable*, and you >reap what you sow in that regard... don't take it out on Branden, please. I told the X people months ag

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Seth Arnold wrote: >Terry, a few quick comments -- first, Utah-glx is in the past. While >their work may have been nifty at one point, and for people running >3.3.x perhaps necessary, XF 4.0.1 has a *much* easier GL system. This is about poor forethought. I complained months

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Joshua Shagam
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 02:38:06AM -0500, Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II wrote: > On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Seth Arnold wrote: > > >Terry, a few quick comments -- first, Utah-glx is in the past. While > >their work may have been nifty at one point, and for people running > >3.3.x perhaps necessary, XF 4.0

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001211 23:29]: > I told the X people months ago not to force out utah - that's why I'm > pissed off. An overnight upgrade of gtk shouldn't break my x server. I > also think hiding behind the debian stand-by "it's not even supposed to > work" is w

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Joshua Shagam wrote: >Well, it was also a poor forethought for you to not issue a package hold on >the XFree packages. It's easy enough to use dselect to request that a >package not be upgraded... (hint: = key) Who uses dselect anymore? This is about a package maintianers

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II wrote: > I told the X people months ago not to force out utah - that's why I'm > pissed off. An overnight upgrade of gtk shouldn't break my x server. I > also think hiding behind the debian stand-by "it's not even supposed to > work" is why packa

Utah GLX

2000-12-12 Thread Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II
Some of you may have seen my forwarded email earlier today. In that mail I complained about having my X install replaced with a non functional half install onf X 4.0.1 and 3.3.6-18. I use utah to play games, do modeling, and develop GL applications. I am outraged that after expressing concer

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II wrote: > Who uses dselect anymore? Call me "Mr. Stone-age", but I do still use dselect sometimes. > This is about a package maintianers *duty to > account for _likely conflicts_. Ok, this gets me a bit upset. There are always unforeseen (or ju

Re: [kteague@sprocket.ddts.net: xserver-xsun drivers]

2000-12-12 Thread Tomas Berndtsson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Branden Robinson) writes: > Does anyone know which driver the TurboGX uses? > > - Forwarded message from Ken Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > > From: Ken Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: xserver-xsun drivers > Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:29:55

Re: building xfree86 4 for debian/arm

2000-12-12 Thread Philip Blundell
>By itself this is pretty odd, but #56 is simply not defined in >/usr/include/elf.h at all. I am rebuilding right now (a 10-hour >process) with "Elf_Rel" rather than "Elf_Rela" setup, to see if that >makes a difference. (Seing that ARM, like i386, unlike any of the >other processors, is Little En

Re: Utah GLX

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001212 00:14]: > You're forcing people to give up performance, correctness, and > hardware GL accelration altogether in some cases. Aha! We have found the root of the problem. :) Please reconsider this statement. Who forces you to do anything? D

Re: Utah GLX

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
[note: I've cut nothing from the body of Terry's original email, only interspersed my comments in his email.] * Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001212 00:52]: > Seth Arnold wrote: > > > > Please reconsider this statement. Who forces you to do anything? Does > > Branden force you

Re: quick fix for building nvidia xfree4 drivers on kernel 2.4.0-test11

2000-12-12 Thread Raphael Deimel
> but im fairly new to this so > editing the complier flags would be > a bit too much for me (now) If you're not familiar with Makefiles (yet ;), you can put the line: #define KERNEL_2_3 into the first line of your nv.h, this does the same. I set up a page with how to get to nvidia drivers for

Re: [harri@synopsys.COM: gdm and kdm can't start X]

2000-12-12 Thread Marcus Geiger
Hi Harald, you need to reconfigure the pkg xserver-common do an dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common and select 'anybody'. This did the job for me. Be aware, it means anybody can start the xserver! Marcus On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 07:50:54PM -0800, Seth Arnold wrote: > Would the /etc/X11/Xwrapper.confi

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Michael Meding
Hi all, > Why have you made the upgrade path in X impossible? You can't run utah on > 4.0 - yet you blindly install 4.0 over every system by dependcies. You > don't even bother checking /proc to see what card is installed. A simple > grep of /proc/pci shows I have an AGP G400, not a V3! > > I h

Re: [kteague@sprocket.ddts.net: xserver-xsun drivers]

2000-12-12 Thread Clint Adams
> www.xfree86.org doesn't seem to say anything at all about Sun > drivers. On a vaguely related note, is there a way other than gpm to get sunmouse support under X4?

Re: [kteague@sprocket.ddts.net: xserver-xsun drivers]

2000-12-12 Thread Tomas Berndtsson
Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > www.xfree86.org doesn't seem to say anything at all about Sun > > drivers. > > On a vaguely related note, is there a way other than gpm to get > sunmouse support under X4? I use: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "

Re: [kteague@sprocket.ddts.net: xserver-xsun drivers]

2000-12-12 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 09:02:07AM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > > www.xfree86.org doesn't seem to say anything at all about Sun > > drivers. > > On a vaguely related note, is there a way other than gpm to get > sunmouse support under X4? "Other" way? It's rather simple. Setup gpm to repeat as msc

xfree86 (4.0.1-11)

2000-12-12 Thread Christian T. Steigies
Hi, the changelog says: * updated MANIFEST.{i386,sparc,powerpc} so it was not updated for m68k? :-( Christian

Re: Tracking XFree86 CVS on a Potato system

2000-12-12 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 10:49:49PM +0100, Charl P. Botha wrote: > I don't track him that quickly... on average I build every 2nd or 3d release > that he makes. I'm planning a potato build of 4.0.1-11 as soon as that's in > woody for a day or two. Please wait for -12. -11 has some aggravating bug

Re: xfree86 (4.0.1-11)

2000-12-12 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 08:20:57AM -0600, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > Hi, > the changelog says: > * updated MANIFEST.{i386,sparc,powerpc} > so it was not updated for m68k? :-( I don't have an m68k box of my own to build on. When the upstream version changes (as I note in my changelog entries

Re: [harri@synopsys.COM: gdm and kdm can't start X]

2000-12-12 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 10:49:14PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > Not sure what the problem is here; I don't know what would make the X > server become a zombie process. Actually, I do know. There was a bug in the X server wrapper. It's fixed in 4.0.1-11. -- G. Branden Robinson |

Re: xfree86 (4.0.1-11)

2000-12-12 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 09:45:17AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 08:20:57AM -0600, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > > Hi, > > the changelog says: > > * updated MANIFEST.{i386,sparc,powerpc} > > so it was not updated for m68k? :-( > > I don't have an m68k box of my own to

Re: xfree86 (4.0.1-11)

2000-12-12 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Branden Robinson wrote: > 4.0.1-12 will contain only Debian-specific revisions (bugfixes). I'm preparing an Alpha patch for -11 (and I guess -12) now. I'm test compiling now and will probably have the final patch later today. Will this be in time for -12? C

Re: xfree86 (4.0.1-11)

2000-12-12 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 08:59:17AM -0600, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > MANIFEST.m68k for this version is on http://people.debian.org/~cts/x4.0/ > > Was that too late? Or did I miss something else? I forgot you told me this. In the future, please tar up your *.m68k files, compress the tarball,

Re: Tracking XFree86 CVS on a Potato system

2000-12-12 Thread Charl P. Botha
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 09:37:24AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 10:49:49PM +0100, Charl P. Botha wrote: > > I don't track him that quickly... on average I build every 2nd or 3d release > > that he makes. I'm planning a potato build of 4.0.1-11 as soon as that's in > > w

4.0.1-11 breaks text and images on SiS 86C326

2000-12-12 Thread Benjamin Redelings I
Hello all, I have been using the new X server packages, and have been quite happy, up through 4.0.1-10. However, when I ran gdm after installing 4.0.1-11, the image was missing - it was replaced in fact by a bit of a dilbert comic that I had been looking at when running 4.0.1-10. Also, no

[bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-12 Thread Branden Robinson
Here is YOUR chance to help a former DPL with a FAQ! :) - Forwarded message from Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: user not authorized to run the X server Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:47:27 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: [EMA

Re: 4.0.1-11 breaks text and images on SiS 86C326

2000-12-12 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 11:14:13AM -0800, Benjamin Redelings I wrote: > Hello all, > I have been using the new X server packages, and have been quite happy, > up through 4.0.1-10. However, when I ran gdm after installing 4.0.1-11, > the image was missing - it was replaced in fact by a bit of

Re: [bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-12 Thread Joshua Shagam
> I am seeing "user not authorized to run the X server" from xinit using the new > Progeny X packages. I've tried editing Xsession so that anybody can start the > server, and that doesn't help. Any clues? Hey Bruce, are you really such a newbie that you can't read the list archives? ;) -- Joshua

Re: [bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-12 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Joshua Shagam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hey Bruce, are you really such a newbie that you can't read the list > archives? ;) Well, you read the archives with a web browser, and my web browser happens to run under the x server that I'm not authorized to run right now. You want me to use LYNX E

Re: Is it possible to disable the mouse cursor?

2000-12-12 Thread Tommi Virtanen
On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 04:52:34PM +, Cajus Pollmeier wrote: > Hi! > > Me again, asking some nerving questions ;-) > > Since the system I'm trying to set up is equipped with a touchscreen, a > mousepointer makes no sence, too. > I tried to disable it via "xsetroot -cursor path_to_empty_bitma

Re: [bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-12 Thread Joshua Shagam
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 11:45:10AM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: > From: Joshua Shagam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hey Bruce, are you really such a newbie that you can't read the list > > archives? ;) > > Well, you read the archives with a web browser, and my web browser happens > to run under the x serv

Re: Utah GLX

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001212 01:32]: > > > The thing is, no one is weeding anything out. Users can still run 3.3.x. > > You can't install 3.3.6-18 anymore, so I think it is cutting users out. Perhaps it is cutting out users who join the project with woody's original

It got better

2000-12-12 Thread Bruce Perens
Rafal's instructions did the trick. Thanks! Bruce

ssh -- X11 forwarding with new server-xfree86

2000-12-12 Thread Lukas Ruf
Dear all, I updated my woody box yesterday to the newest server for XFree86 4.0. Since then, I cannot remotely start any tools that have to connect to the X-Client. The error message _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 Error: Can't open display: 10.0.1.4:0.0 [1]Exit

Re: [bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-12 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 12:47:29PM -0700, Joshua Shagam wrote: > > Actually, I read the archives about a week ago when this first popped up, > > and > > didn't find the answer. > > When I had these problems (I wasn't paying attention when it came up the > first time) it took me a while to find th

Re: [bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-12 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 11:45:10AM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: > From: Joshua Shagam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hey Bruce, are you really such a newbie that you can't read the list > > archives? ;) > > Well, you read the archives with a web browser, and my web browser happens > to run under the x serv

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Seth Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Terry, a few quick comments -- first, Utah-glx is in the past. While > their work may have been nifty at one point, and for people running > 3.3.x perhaps necessary, XF 4.0.1 has a *much* easier GL system. Grmpf! Do you know what DRI currently su

Re: ssh -- X11 forwarding with new server-xfree86

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
Lukas, I think there are several things going on at once. xhost allows individual hosts to connect to X -- by default, X doesn't listen to tcp sockets (the -nolisten tcp bit in one of the /etc/X11/ files) so remote hosts will not be able to connect, with or without xhost authorization. Also, ssh d

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > pissed off. An overnight upgrade of gtk shouldn't break my x server. As the gtkglarea maintainer (and since you hinted it's the OpenGL subsystem what broke) I feel this is somehow my fault... could you please elaborate on this? -

Re: [bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-12 Thread Joshua Shagam
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 04:20:30PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 12:47:29PM -0700, Joshua Shagam wrote: > > > Actually, I read the archives about a week ago when this first popped up, > > > and > > > didn't find the answer. > > > > When I had these problems (I wasn't p

-11 gives graphics corruption with V3 3000

2000-12-12 Thread Matthew Garrett
xserver-xfree86-11 gives corruption on my V3 3000. Black bars run across the top of the screen, and moving windows causes corruption. I'm running at 1792x1344 using DRI. Dropping back to the xserver-10 package (and keeping the -11 ones for everything else) fixed things. Does -11 have a new upstream

[ernst_sonnleitner@freenet.de: xdm don't run his start script with german settings (LANG=de_DE)]

2000-12-12 Thread Branden Robinson
- Forwarded message from Ernst Sonnleitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Ernst Sonnleitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: xdm don't run his start script with german settings (LANG=de_DE) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:33:28 +0100 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Marcelo E. Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001212 14:40]: > DRI's implementation is orders of magnitude cleaner and it *is* a > better option for some people (most of the people, probably), but > brushing Utah as a thing "in the past" is, at best, cluelessness. If > *you* had trouble setting u

Xwrapper.config

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
Branden, could you change the error message (sorry, only root is allowed to run X) to state that the answer lies in Xwrapper.config, or dpkg-reconfigure ? Thanks :) -- ``Oh Lord; Ooh you are so big; So absolutely huge; Gosh we're all really impressed down here, I can tell you.''

[branden@deadbeast.net: [ernst_sonnleitner@freenet.de: xdm don't run his start script with german settings (LANG=de_DE)]]

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
Ernst, I *think* the end problem is, XF86 uses a different set of locale names than FSF's glibc uses. I don't know the answer. Branden and (ben?) have exchanged a few emails in debian-x about possible solutions/sources of the problem. The debian-x archives may be interesting reading. Until somethin

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Seth Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, I am at least partially correct in the sense that Utah-GLX does > not work with 4.0.1. It only works with versions of 3.3.x; a version > most decidedly much older than 4.0.1. That is my definition of 'past' -- > something that once upon a time

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Marcelo E. Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001212 16:39]: > [...] and Utah's has some advantages for some people. And the one person who has seemed to be effected thus far did not take the time and effort to put his packages on hold. :-P > > Whether it is better or worse, I am not prepared to m

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Zoran Dzelajlija
Quoting Christopher C. Chimelis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > To end this long reply, I suggest this: compile your own Xserver and utah > and install it in /usr/local until things work out to the point where they > are usable again for your setup. What I did was use the potato 3.3.6 xserver, because xser

Re: 4.0.1-11 breaks text and images on SiS 86C326

2000-12-12 Thread Benjamin Redelings I
> > Very interestingly, I experience a similar problem under the 4.0.1 X > server with the game X Scavenger (xscavenger). When Scavenger first starts > up, the outer borders of the window are leftover bits of comics that I've > been looking at. When I start the game, though, the screen is cleared

Re: Tracking XFree86 CVS on a Potato system

2000-12-12 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
Dear Seth, Thank you very much for your advice. SA> You can indeed build Branden's packages for potato, but Charl P. Botha SA> has done this already! I am aware of Charl's packages. The issue is that I want to *litterally* track XFree86 CVS. I want to be able to say ``cvs diff'' when I'm worki

Re: [bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-12 Thread Drew Parsons
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 04:20:30PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 12:47:29PM -0700, Joshua Shagam wrote: > > > > When I had these problems (I wasn't paying attention when it came up the > > first time) it took me a while to find the exact thread which answers it. > > You

Re: [bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Drew Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001212 18:18]: > > That's dpkg-reconfigure, actually... > > "dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-common" doesn't seem to do anything for me. It > runs, exits, and Xwrapper.config is exactly the same as it was before. This would probably mean you set your debconf severity

Re: 4.0.1-11 breaks text and images on SiS 86C326

2000-12-12 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 05:54:22PM -0800, Benjamin Redelings I wrote: > > > > Very interestingly, I experience a similar problem under the 4.0.1 X > > server with the game X Scavenger (xscavenger). When Scavenger first starts > > up, the outer borders of the window are leftover bits of comics that

Re: [bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-12 Thread Gordon Sadler
Actually, I even filed a bug on this. I did the investigation and found the answer myself, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common... However, my issue is not HOW to fix it, but rather after fixing it it does not stay fixed. Every upgrade requires me to again dpkg- reconfigure xserver-common. That was the

Re: [bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-12 Thread Drew Parsons
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 06:21:17PM -0800, Seth Arnold wrote: > * Drew Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001212 18:18]: > > > That's dpkg-reconfigure, actually... > > > > "dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-common" doesn't seem to do anything for me. It > > runs, exits, and Xwrapper.config is exactly the same as

Utah GLX

2000-12-12 Thread Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II
Some of you may have seen my forwarded email earlier today. In that mail I complained about having my X install replaced with a non functional half install onf X 4.0.1 and 3.3.6-18. I use utah to play games, do modeling, and develop GL applications. I am outraged that after expressing concer

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II wrote: > Who uses dselect anymore? Call me "Mr. Stone-age", but I do still use dselect sometimes. > This is about a package maintianers *duty to > account for _likely conflicts_. Ok, this gets me a bit upset. There are always unforeseen (or j

Re: [kteague@sprocket.ddts.net: xserver-xsun drivers]

2000-12-12 Thread Tomas Berndtsson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Branden Robinson) writes: > Does anyone know which driver the TurboGX uses? > > - Forwarded message from Ken Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > > From: Ken Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: xserver-xsun drivers > Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:29:55

Re: building xfree86 4 for debian/arm

2000-12-12 Thread Philip Blundell
>By itself this is pretty odd, but #56 is simply not defined in >/usr/include/elf.h at all. I am rebuilding right now (a 10-hour >process) with "Elf_Rel" rather than "Elf_Rela" setup, to see if that >makes a difference. (Seing that ARM, like i386, unlike any of the >other processors, is Little E

Re: Utah GLX

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001212 00:14]: > You're forcing people to give up performance, correctness, and > hardware GL accelration altogether in some cases. Aha! We have found the root of the problem. :) Please reconsider this statement. Who forces you to do anything?

Re: Utah GLX

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
[note: I've cut nothing from the body of Terry's original email, only interspersed my comments in his email.] * Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001212 00:52]: > Seth Arnold wrote: > > > > Please reconsider this statement. Who forces you to do anything? Does > > Branden force yo

Re: quick fix for building nvidia xfree4 drivers on kernel 2.4.0-test11

2000-12-12 Thread Raphael Deimel
> but im fairly new to this so > editing the complier flags would be > a bit too much for me (now) If you're not familiar with Makefiles (yet ;), you can put the line: #define KERNEL_2_3 into the first line of your nv.h, this does the same. I set up a page with how to get to nvidia drivers fo

Re: [harri@synopsys.COM: gdm and kdm can't start X]

2000-12-12 Thread Marcus Geiger
Hi Harald, you need to reconfigure the pkg xserver-common do an dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common and select 'anybody'. This did the job for me. Be aware, it means anybody can start the xserver! Marcus On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 07:50:54PM -0800, Seth Arnold wrote: > Would the /etc/X11/Xwrapper.conf

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Michael Meding
Hi all, > Why have you made the upgrade path in X impossible? You can't run utah on > 4.0 - yet you blindly install 4.0 over every system by dependcies. You > don't even bother checking /proc to see what card is installed. A simple > grep of /proc/pci shows I have an AGP G400, not a V3! > > I

Re: [kteague@sprocket.ddts.net: xserver-xsun drivers]

2000-12-12 Thread Clint Adams
> www.xfree86.org doesn't seem to say anything at all about Sun > drivers. On a vaguely related note, is there a way other than gpm to get sunmouse support under X4? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [kteague@sprocket.ddts.net: xserver-xsun drivers]

2000-12-12 Thread Tomas Berndtsson
Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > www.xfree86.org doesn't seem to say anything at all about Sun > > drivers. > > On a vaguely related note, is there a way other than gpm to get > sunmouse support under X4? I use: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver

Re: [kteague@sprocket.ddts.net: xserver-xsun drivers]

2000-12-12 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 09:02:07AM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > > www.xfree86.org doesn't seem to say anything at all about Sun > > drivers. > > On a vaguely related note, is there a way other than gpm to get > sunmouse support under X4? "Other" way? It's rather simple. Setup gpm to repeat as msc

xfree86 (4.0.1-11)

2000-12-12 Thread Christian T. Steigies
Hi, the changelog says: * updated MANIFEST.{i386,sparc,powerpc} so it was not updated for m68k? :-( Christian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Tracking XFree86 CVS on a Potato system

2000-12-12 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 10:49:49PM +0100, Charl P. Botha wrote: > I don't track him that quickly... on average I build every 2nd or 3d release > that he makes. I'm planning a potato build of 4.0.1-11 as soon as that's in > woody for a day or two. Please wait for -12. -11 has some aggravating bu

Re: xfree86 (4.0.1-11)

2000-12-12 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 08:20:57AM -0600, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > Hi, > the changelog says: > * updated MANIFEST.{i386,sparc,powerpc} > so it was not updated for m68k? :-( I don't have an m68k box of my own to build on. When the upstream version changes (as I note in my changelog entrie

Re: [harri@synopsys.COM: gdm and kdm can't start X]

2000-12-12 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 10:49:14PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > Not sure what the problem is here; I don't know what would make the X > server become a zombie process. Actually, I do know. There was a bug in the X server wrapper. It's fixed in 4.0.1-11. -- G. Branden Robinson

Re: xfree86 (4.0.1-11)

2000-12-12 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 09:45:17AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 08:20:57AM -0600, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > > Hi, > > the changelog says: > > * updated MANIFEST.{i386,sparc,powerpc} > > so it was not updated for m68k? :-( > > I don't have an m68k box of my own t

Re: xfree86 (4.0.1-11)

2000-12-12 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Branden Robinson wrote: > 4.0.1-12 will contain only Debian-specific revisions (bugfixes). I'm preparing an Alpha patch for -11 (and I guess -12) now. I'm test compiling now and will probably have the final patch later today. Will this be in time for -12? C -- To UNS

Re: xfree86 (4.0.1-11)

2000-12-12 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 08:59:17AM -0600, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > MANIFEST.m68k for this version is on http://people.debian.org/~cts/x4.0/ > > Was that too late? Or did I miss something else? I forgot you told me this. In the future, please tar up your *.m68k files, compress the tarball

Re: Tracking XFree86 CVS on a Potato system

2000-12-12 Thread Charl P. Botha
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 09:37:24AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 10:49:49PM +0100, Charl P. Botha wrote: > > I don't track him that quickly... on average I build every 2nd or 3d release > > that he makes. I'm planning a potato build of 4.0.1-11 as soon as that's in > >

4.0.1-11 breaks text and images on SiS 86C326

2000-12-12 Thread Benjamin Redelings I
Hello all, I have been using the new X server packages, and have been quite happy, up through 4.0.1-10. However, when I ran gdm after installing 4.0.1-11, the image was missing - it was replaced in fact by a bit of a dilbert comic that I had been looking at when running 4.0.1-10. Also, n

[bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-12 Thread Branden Robinson
Here is YOUR chance to help a former DPL with a FAQ! :) - Forwarded message from Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: user not authorized to run the X server Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:47:27 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: [EM

Re: 4.0.1-11 breaks text and images on SiS 86C326

2000-12-12 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 11:14:13AM -0800, Benjamin Redelings I wrote: > Hello all, > I have been using the new X server packages, and have been quite happy, > up through 4.0.1-10. However, when I ran gdm after installing 4.0.1-11, > the image was missing - it was replaced in fact by a bit o

Re: [bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-12 Thread Joshua Shagam
> I am seeing "user not authorized to run the X server" from xinit using the new > Progeny X packages. I've tried editing Xsession so that anybody can start the > server, and that doesn't help. Any clues? Hey Bruce, are you really such a newbie that you can't read the list archives? ;) -- Joshu

Re: [bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-12 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Joshua Shagam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hey Bruce, are you really such a newbie that you can't read the list > archives? ;) Well, you read the archives with a web browser, and my web browser happens to run under the x server that I'm not authorized to run right now. You want me to use LYNX

Re: Is it possible to disable the mouse cursor?

2000-12-12 Thread Tommi Virtanen
On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 04:52:34PM +, Cajus Pollmeier wrote: > Hi! > > Me again, asking some nerving questions ;-) > > Since the system I'm trying to set up is equipped with a touchscreen, a > mousepointer makes no sence, too. > I tried to disable it via "xsetroot -cursor path_to_empty_bitm

Re: [bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-12 Thread Joshua Shagam
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 11:45:10AM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: > From: Joshua Shagam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hey Bruce, are you really such a newbie that you can't read the list > > archives? ;) > > Well, you read the archives with a web browser, and my web browser happens > to run under the x ser

Re: Utah GLX

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001212 01:32]: > > > The thing is, no one is weeding anything out. Users can still run 3.3.x. > > You can't install 3.3.6-18 anymore, so I think it is cutting users out. Perhaps it is cutting out users who join the project with woody's origina

It got better

2000-12-12 Thread Bruce Perens
Rafal's instructions did the trick. Thanks! Bruce -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ssh -- X11 forwarding with new server-xfree86

2000-12-12 Thread Lukas Ruf
Dear all, I updated my woody box yesterday to the newest server for XFree86 4.0. Since then, I cannot remotely start any tools that have to connect to the X-Client. The error message _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 Error: Can't open display: 10.0.1.4:0.0 [1]Exi

Re: [bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-12 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 12:47:29PM -0700, Joshua Shagam wrote: > > Actually, I read the archives about a week ago when this first popped up, and > > didn't find the answer. > > When I had these problems (I wasn't paying attention when it came up the > first time) it took me a while to find the ex

Re: [bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-12 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 11:45:10AM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: > From: Joshua Shagam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hey Bruce, are you really such a newbie that you can't read the list > > archives? ;) > > Well, you read the archives with a web browser, and my web browser happens > to run under the x ser

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Seth Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Terry, a few quick comments -- first, Utah-glx is in the past. While > their work may have been nifty at one point, and for people running > 3.3.x perhaps necessary, XF 4.0.1 has a *much* easier GL system. Grmpf! Do you know what DRI currently s

Re: ssh -- X11 forwarding with new server-xfree86

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
Lukas, I think there are several things going on at once. xhost allows individual hosts to connect to X -- by default, X doesn't listen to tcp sockets (the -nolisten tcp bit in one of the /etc/X11/ files) so remote hosts will not be able to connect, with or without xhost authorization. Also, ssh

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > pissed off. An overnight upgrade of gtk shouldn't break my x server. As the gtkglarea maintainer (and since you hinted it's the OpenGL subsystem what broke) I feel this is somehow my fault... could you please elaborate on this?

Re: [bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-12 Thread Joshua Shagam
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 04:20:30PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 12:47:29PM -0700, Joshua Shagam wrote: > > > Actually, I read the archives about a week ago when this first popped up, and > > > didn't find the answer. > > > > When I had these problems (I wasn't paying

-11 gives graphics corruption with V3 3000

2000-12-12 Thread Matthew Garrett
xserver-xfree86-11 gives corruption on my V3 3000. Black bars run across the top of the screen, and moving windows causes corruption. I'm running at 1792x1344 using DRI. Dropping back to the xserver-10 package (and keeping the -11 ones for everything else) fixed things. Does -11 have a new upstrea

[ernst_sonnleitner@freenet.de: xdm don't run his start script with german settings (LANG=de_DE)]

2000-12-12 Thread Branden Robinson
- Forwarded message from Ernst Sonnleitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Ernst Sonnleitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: xdm don't run his start script with german settings (LANG=de_DE) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:33:28 +0100 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Marcelo E. Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001212 14:40]: > DRI's implementation is orders of magnitude cleaner and it *is* a > better option for some people (most of the people, probably), but > brushing Utah as a thing "in the past" is, at best, cluelessness. If > *you* had trouble setting

Xwrapper.config

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
Branden, could you change the error message (sorry, only root is allowed to run X) to state that the answer lies in Xwrapper.config, or dpkg-reconfigure ? Thanks :) -- ``Oh Lord; Ooh you are so big; So absolutely huge; Gosh we're all really impressed down here, I can tell you.'' -- To UNSUB

[branden@deadbeast.net: [ernst_sonnleitner@freenet.de: xdm don't run his start script with german settings (LANG=de_DE)]]

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
Ernst, I *think* the end problem is, XF86 uses a different set of locale names than FSF's glibc uses. I don't know the answer. Branden and (ben?) have exchanged a few emails in debian-x about possible solutions/sources of the problem. The debian-x archives may be interesting reading. Until somethi

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Seth Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, I am at least partially correct in the sense that Utah-GLX does > not work with 4.0.1. It only works with versions of 3.3.x; a version > most decidedly much older than 4.0.1. That is my definition of 'past' -- > something that once upon a tim

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Marcelo E. Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001212 16:39]: > [...] and Utah's has some advantages for some people. And the one person who has seemed to be effected thus far did not take the time and effort to put his packages on hold. :-P > > Whether it is better or worse, I am not prepared to

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