Bug#359328: ERROR! sizeof(I830DRIRec) does not match passed size from device driver

2006-05-30 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 04:06:40PM -0400, P.C. Chan wrote: > Comparing I830DRIRec definition from xf86-video-i810-1.5.1.0 and Mesa-6.4.1, > the former has the extra: > > drmSize rotatedSize; > drm_handle_t rotatedbuffer; > > Hence they would be different in size and uncompatible. Th

Re: Mesa 6.4.2 and 6.5, Release Candidates

2006-05-25 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi Aaron, On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 03:01:07PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: > backfires badly, yielding unusable binary packages. In addition, the > new approach seems to be major overkill -- whereas 6.4.1-0.4 shipped > 349 files totalling ~7.6M, 6.4.2-1 ships 1060 files totalling ~18.3M. Ah,

Bug#359328: Fixed in mesa upstream

2006-05-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 02:02:22PM +0100, Andy Parkins wrote: > "As it turns out this problem is caused by the snapshot builds using > outdated Xorg 6.9 sources that are incompatible with the current i915 > driver from Mesa. i915 snapshots 20060123 and older should still be > OK." > > So I

Re: 6.4.2 and 6.5

2006-05-23 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi, On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 09:39:14PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: > Now that Xorg 7.1 is out, we need to work out some plan for actually > uploading 6.5 to the archive. My current plan is to stage 7.1 in > experimental very soon, and then when it's stabilized move it to > unstable. Since Br

Re: mesa: FTBFS on hurd-i386 because of dri/drm

2006-05-14 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 06:14:13PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > the attached patch fixes this problem in the most elegant way I could > come up with given the make-me-harder attitude of mesa's > debian/rules. If somebody has a better suggestion, I'd be happy to > know :) Whatever. If don'

Re: Mesa 6.5 Development Release

2006-04-20 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 06:58:55PM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote: > The Xprint server has OpenGL support which is switched by identifying > the mesa source. I'm not entirely certain what it's for, I presume > it's for grabbing a snapshot of the current GL image in a window, for > sending to a pri

Re: Mesa 6.5 Development Release

2006-04-20 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 10:35:44AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Mesa 6.5 is a development release with known problems. Should that be > allowed to migrate to testing? It's my impression that the semantics > you seem to attribute to sid have mostly shifted to experimental and > that sid is mos

Bug#363147: libxklavier10: Debian patch xorg_xkb_path.patch breaks libxklavier

2006-04-17 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Package: libxklavier10 Version: 2.2-2 Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable Tags: patch This fixes a bug that has been bothering a rather large ammount of people. AFAICS libxklavier can't do zilch without this fix. The patch: --- libxklavier-2.2.orig/libxklavier/xklavier_co

Re: mesag3 <-> xlibmesa-gl / libgl1-mesa-dri <-> xlibmesa-dri / libglu1-mesa <-> libglu1-xorg

2005-09-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 05:30:52PM -0400, Michel Dänzer wrote: > I tried building from SVN: > > [...] > mkdir -p debian/stamp/ && touch debian/stamp/target-gl-debian-debug > dh_testdir > chmod +x debian/shadowtree > rm -f -rf build/gl-debian-debug-i386 > debian/shadowtree build/gl-debian-

Re: mesag3 <-> xlibmesa-gl / libgl1-mesa-dri <-> xlibmesa-dri / libglu1-mesa <-> libglu1-xorg

2005-09-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:58:19PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: > Right. My solution for that was to split them into a separate > mesa-utils source package, with a slightly hacked Makefile. They > build just fine independently. Ah, you mean the utils! The demos are shipped in a separate tarb

Re: mesag3 <-> xlibmesa-gl / libgl1-mesa-dri <-> xlibmesa-dri / libglu1-mesa <-> libglu1-xorg

2005-08-31 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 12:07:46PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: > Sorry, I've really just not had any time recently, and there are some > things I wanted to clean up before I fired off to you (e.g. the > Build-Dep on glut, which introduced horrible Build-Deps and other > hilarity which meant tha

Re: mesag3 <-> xlibmesa-gl / libgl1-mesa-dri <-> xlibmesa-dri / libglu1-mesa <-> libglu1-xorg

2005-08-31 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 10:35:55PM -0400, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > Is this an attempt to smooth the transition from the xorg > > > packages to the mesa ones and in the course of the X > > > modularisation to get completely rid of the GL/GLU code in xorg > > > (and the libgl*-xorg package

Re: mesag3 <-> xlibmesa-gl / libgl1-mesa-dri <-> xlibmesa-dri / libglu1-mesa <-> libglu1-xorg

2005-08-31 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 02:41:05AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > It seems that mesa (6.3.2) as well as xorg (6.8.2) both provide a > GL/GLU implemetation. If you look at: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libGL.so.1&searchmode=searchfiles&case=sensitive&version=unst

Re: Procedure reminders on updating a lib package for a C++ ABI change

2005-07-19 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 09:00:13PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > ...but wait. If this is the case, isn't there a potential problem > when a C++ program uses libGLU? Couldn't we end up with conflicting > symbols from two different versions of libstdc++, one linked into > libGLU and the oth

Re: Procedure reminders on updating a lib package for a C++ ABI change

2005-07-16 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 03:24:50PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Oh, ugh. I think the XSF was essentially following Ubuntu's lead > here; no one realized, or thought to check, that the C++ bits weren't > exported as part of the ABI. Ah... that was my guess... > David, do you want me to pu

Re: Procedure reminders on updating a lib package for a C++ ABI change

2005-07-16 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 03:09:18AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Also, for those who aren't aware, the new xorg packages now in > unstable are also implicated in the C++ transition, because libGLU is > implemented in C++. Keyword: implemented. All of GLU's interfaces are C, not C++, so "tr

Bug#287608: Missing dependency on lesstif2-dev?

2005-03-26 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 03:58:39PM -0500, Michel Dänzer wrote: > I think the GLw stuff should really be in its own package, which > could then depend on the Motif stuff. Is there anything at all in > Debian that uses GLw? Too much overhead, IMO. We are talking about 5 files (3 from my POV)

Bug#287608: Missing dependency on lesstif2-dev?

2005-03-26 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 03:06:44AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > the GLw library shipped with the xlibmesa-gl-dev package uses > > Motif (both 1.2 and 2), so some sort of dependency should be > > declared on lesstif2-dev (Depends, Suggests, Recommends). > > Can you elaborate, please?

Bug#287557: /usr/include/GL/GLwDrawAP.h should not be shipped

2005-03-26 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 02:51:01AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > This file is a private implementation file, therefore the "P". > > I'm not sure I can honor this request and be consistent with existing > Debian practice. Uhm... I meant that as "in this particular case the file is name

Bug#287612: xlibosmesa4 must depend on xlibmesa-gl

2004-12-28 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Package: xlibosmesa4 Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-10 Severity: grave File: /usr/X11R6/lib/libOSMesa.so.4 Justification: renders package unusable Hi, perhaps serious is more appropriate, since it's the dependencies that are wrong. $ objdump -T /usr/X11R6/lib/libOSMesa.so.4.0 | grep UND | grep -v GLIBC

Bug#287608: Missing dependency on lesstif2-dev?

2004-12-28 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Package: xlibmesa-gl-dev Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-9 Severity: normal Hi, the GLw library shipped with the xlibmesa-gl-dev package uses Motif (both 1.2 and 2), so some sort of dependency should be declared on lesstif2-dev (Depends, Suggests, Recommends). Marcelo

Bug#287557: /usr/include/GL/GLwDrawAP.h should not be shipped

2004-12-28 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Package: xlibmesa-gl-dev Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-9 Severity: normal File: /usr/include/GL/GLwDrawAP.h See subject. This file is a private implementation file, therefore the "P". Marcelo PS: In case you are wondering if I have too much time in my hands, no, I don't. I was trying to figur

Re: Future of X packages in Debian

2004-06-30 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 11:08:39AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > I think changing Debian's shipping sample implementation at this > point, when we're -- err -- "about to release" would be a bad idea. LOL err... sorry... this is not -curiosa... I take that LOL back, my apologies. Marcel

Bug#205916: general: opengl isn't running properly. can run glxgears and window shows but nothing in it.

2003-08-17 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> netbrain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I cant run anything that requires opengl, the programs will open but > bothing will show. i consulted #debian at irc.debian.org and a bloke > called penguin24 said it was a bug when compiling with a newer gcc. > im a newbie so i don't know so much abo

Bug#205916: general: opengl isn't running properly. can run glxgears and window shows but nothing in it.

2003-08-17 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> netbrain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I cant run anything that requires opengl, the programs will open but > bothing will show. i consulted #debian at irc.debian.org and a bloke > called penguin24 said it was a bug when compiling with a newer gcc. > im a newbie so i don't know so much abo

SGI FreeB license *still* not included in debian/copyright

2003-07-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi Branden, Please Cc: me, I'm not subscribed. I'm seding this to the list because I want to have a public record of this. I have pointed this out several times over the last few years to you (e.g., bug#107149), and it seems this keeps coming back. Do this for me, will you? 0. Take the f

SGI FreeB license *still* not included in debian/copyright

2003-07-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi Branden, Please Cc: me, I'm not subscribed. I'm seding this to the list because I want to have a public record of this. I have pointed this out several times over the last few years to you (e.g., bug#107149), and it seems this keeps coming back. Do this for me, will you? 0. Take the f

Bug#187365: xlibmesa3-glu: libraries not correctly linked

2003-05-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Because the libGL provided by mesag3 doesn't seem to be able to load the > DRI drivers (though that might just be a matter of how it's built). Brian (?) mentioned something about building that capability on the mesa libraries a long time ago. I

Bug#187365: xlibmesa3-glu: libraries not correctly linked

2003-05-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We could just as well ask why we bother to ship xlibmesa*, then. > > I would like to know why the answers to your question and the above > should be different. The best answer I can come up with? Because someone is bound to create a CD whi

Bug#191737: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#191737: xinerama.h is missing extern C { for C++ compiling)

2003-05-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes, but it's not Xinerama's problem, and I don't see why it should be > bending over backwards to support people using it from another language. > I certainly won't be including this patch in my tree. Because that's the polite way of coding C hea

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 03:00:39PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > Notice that apt-get install mesag-dev complains that mesa-common-dev > is not going to be installed. Does it? I admit I have only installed the packages using dpkg -i ... I'll check what going on. > That said, suppose i build m

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 02:50:25PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > BTW, why is mesag3 not called libgl-mesa ? And i agree that the 3 is > more confusing than something else. The way I see it, people using mesa (instead of xlibmesa) have a reason for that and renaming the package would make upgrad

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 02:22:22PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > I removed all the xlibmesa packages, and tried to install the mesa > packages. There is a mesa-dev packages, and libglu-mesa and > libglu-mesa-dev packages, but no mesa 5.0.0 package providing libgl. Uhm... Package: mesag3 Vers

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi Sven, On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 01:47:52PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > Definitively, this improved the situation, but it still fails on > alpha with : > > Error on dynamically loaded library: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1: > symbol __gxx_personality_v0, version CXXABI_1.2 not defined in file

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Package: xlibmesa-glu-dev > Replaces: mesag-dev (>> 5.0.0-1), [...] Replaces mesag-dev? What did I miss? -- Marcelo

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 03:00:39PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > Notice that apt-get install mesag-dev complains that mesa-common-dev > is not going to be installed. Does it? I admit I have only installed the packages using dpkg -i ... I'll check what going on. > That said, suppose i build m

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 02:50:25PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > BTW, why is mesag3 not called libgl-mesa ? And i agree that the 3 is > more confusing than something else. The way I see it, people using mesa (instead of xlibmesa) have a reason for that and renaming the package would make upgrad

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 02:22:22PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > I removed all the xlibmesa packages, and tried to install the mesa > packages. There is a mesa-dev packages, and libglu-mesa and > libglu-mesa-dev packages, but no mesa 5.0.0 package providing libgl. Uhm... Package: mesag3 Vers

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi Sven, On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 01:47:52PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > Definitively, this improved the situation, but it still fails on > alpha with : > > Error on dynamically loaded library: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1: > symbol __gxx_personality_v0, version CXXABI_1.2 not defined in file

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Package: xlibmesa-glu-dev > Replaces: mesag-dev (>> 5.0.0-1), [...] Replaces mesag-dev? What did I miss? -- Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1

2003-02-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Please keep me on the Cc: >> "chris horn." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > relocation error: /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1: undefined symbol: > __gxx_personality_v0 That's mighty bad. That symbol comes from libstdc++ > I get it with several applications (xawtv, xscreensaver and cube, to name a > fe

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
I'm sorry about the somewhat out of place reply, but I wanted to point something out and this is most relevant place I could find. >> Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Shared library packages carry part of the soname in their names so > that multiple versions can be installed simultaneou

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Please do spell it out. If XFree86 didn't crib its GLU from the Mesa > project, where did it come from? Mesa ships the same GLU as XFree86, and both come from the SGI OpenGL SI. Look in xc/extras/ogl-sample, e.g. README.XF86: This is

Re: /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1

2003-02-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Please keep me on the Cc: >> "chris horn." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > relocation error: /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1: undefined symbol: > __gxx_personality_v0 That's mighty bad. That symbol comes from libstdc++ > I get it with several applications (xawtv, xscreensaver and cube, to name a > fe

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
I'm sorry about the somewhat out of place reply, but I wanted to point something out and this is most relevant place I could find. >> Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Shared library packages carry part of the soname in their names so > that multiple versions can be installed simultaneou

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Please do spell it out. If XFree86 didn't crib its GLU from the Mesa > project, where did it come from? Mesa ships the same GLU as XFree86, and both come from the SGI OpenGL SI. Look in xc/extras/ogl-sample, e.g. README.XF86: This is

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-11 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 08:01:20PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > > JFYI, if that's the argument, you can start by renaming xlibmesa3-glu > > then. "3" is certainly not the major, minor or whatever version number > > of that library, since it doesn't really have anything to do with Mesa. > >

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-11 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 08:01:20PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > > JFYI, if that's the argument, you can start by renaming xlibmesa3-glu > > then. "3" is certainly not the major, minor or whatever version number > > of that library, since it doesn't really have anything to do with Mesa. > >

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-11 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 02:52:35PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > The package version will be the same as for every other binary > package that is generated by the XFree86 source package, so it can't > be communicated there. JFYI, if that's the argument, you can start by renaming xlibmesa3-

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-11 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 01:31:24PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > > Sure, so isn't it funny that the current actual Mesa packages aren't > > called mesag5*? > > That's Marcelo's call. JFTR, no, I won't start calling these packages mesa5 (if I ever rename these package, rest assured that I'm

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-11 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 02:52:35PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > The package version will be the same as for every other binary > package that is generated by the XFree86 source package, so it can't > be communicated there. JFYI, if that's the argument, you can start by renaming xlibmesa3-

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-10 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 01:31:24PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > > Sure, so isn't it funny that the current actual Mesa packages aren't > > called mesag5*? > > That's Marcelo's call. JFTR, no, I won't start calling these packages mesa5 (if I ever rename these package, rest assured that I'm

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 01:31:24PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > Branden already answered you, and so did I. The significance lies in > the major version. It's obviously meaningful to Mesa, if they > continue to bump *major* versions, it must mean they're doing > something pretty ... well, majo

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 01:31:24PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > Branden already answered you, and so did I. The significance lies in > the major version. It's obviously meaningful to Mesa, if they > continue to bump *major* versions, it must mean they're doing > something pretty ... well, majo

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 05:14:57PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > You dodged my vital question again: lol, vital... some people take Debian too seriosly ;-) > 'How is the major Mesa version number relevant for the xlibmesa > package name?' It isn't. Going from memory, the changes between 3

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 05:14:57PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > You dodged my vital question again: lol, vital... some people take Debian too seriosly ;-) > 'How is the major Mesa version number relevant for the xlibmesa > package name?' It isn't. Going from memory, the changes between 3

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 09:05:54AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > Merging Mesa 5 in the XFree86 tree will happen RSN > > XFree86 4.3.0 will not ship with Mesa 5. I forgot the smily :-) It will certainly take Internet ages. -- Marcelo

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 09:27:28AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > Marcelo was wondering why I bumped the name to xlibmesa4-* for my > packages, and I pointed out that having xlibmesa3-*, for Mesa 4, > would be horrifically stupid and misleading. JFTR, no, I wasn't. Michel was courteous enough

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 09:05:54AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > Merging Mesa 5 in the XFree86 tree will happen RSN > > XFree86 4.3.0 will not ship with Mesa 5. I forgot the smily :-) It will certainly take Internet ages. -- Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-05 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 09:27:28AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > Marcelo was wondering why I bumped the name to xlibmesa4-* for my > packages, and I pointed out that having xlibmesa3-*, for Mesa 4, > would be horrifically stupid and misleading. JFTR, no, I wasn't. Michel was courteous enough

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-03 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 01:26:40AM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > After some more thinking, xlibmesa-gl1 might be better because it > allows xlibmesa-gl-dev to naturally keep its name. Personally I don't have strong feelings against changing the package names. It shouldn't break anything rea

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-03 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 11:24:43AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > OK, so why don't you give me a hand instead of being obtuse for the > hell of it. Why was the 3 there, originally? Heh. The Mesa packages used to provide a library called libMesaGL.so.3. At some point Brian (Paul) realized thi

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-03 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 01:26:40AM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > After some more thinking, xlibmesa-gl1 might be better because it > allows xlibmesa-gl-dev to naturally keep its name. Personally I don't have strong feelings against changing the package names. It shouldn't break anything rea

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-03 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 11:24:43AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > OK, so why don't you give me a hand instead of being obtuse for the > hell of it. Why was the 3 there, originally? Heh. The Mesa packages used to provide a library called libMesaGL.so.3. At some point Brian (Paul) realized thi

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 11:16:40AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > > Why the Mesa packages carry a 3 is also historical baggage and most > > people seem to be unaware why that 3 is there in the first place. > > Yes, and it's been carried through. Like I said... most people are unaware of why t

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:26:05AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > I'm not having packages with a misleading name. I'm keeping up status > quo until I see a good reason to change current (and expected) > behaviour. So far you haven't provided one. Neither have you. As per policy, that number s

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:21:22AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > > uhm... why? That doesn't make any sense at all. > > Hysterical raisins, presumably. The raisins explain the 3 but not the 4. -- Marcelo

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:00:23AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > The 3 in 4.2.1's xlibmesa packages, and hence the 4 in my 4.2.99.x > xlibmesa packages, reflects the major version of Mesa used. uhm... why? That doesn't make any sense at all. -- Marcelo

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 11:16:40AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > > Why the Mesa packages carry a 3 is also historical baggage and most > > people seem to be unaware why that 3 is there in the first place. > > Yes, and it's been carried through. Like I said... most people are unaware of why t

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:26:05AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > I'm not having packages with a misleading name. I'm keeping up status > quo until I see a good reason to change current (and expected) > behaviour. So far you haven't provided one. Neither have you. As per policy, that number s

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:21:22AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > > uhm... why? That doesn't make any sense at all. > > Hysterical raisins, presumably. The raisins explain the 3 but not the 4. -- Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troub

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:00:23AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > The 3 in 4.2.1's xlibmesa packages, and hence the 4 in my 4.2.99.x > xlibmesa packages, reflects the major version of Mesa used. uhm... why? That doesn't make any sense at all. -- Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL P

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Shouldn't be a problem because nothing outside of the xfree86 source > package should depend on the xlibmesa packages directly (or deal with > it)? You just have to convince apt that replacing the then dissapeared foo3 by foo1 just because the l

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 03:09:11PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > And because the autobuilders don't like virtual build dependencies, > which is, i think, a worse problem. Please. That's a weak argument. If any package providing a virtual package is a good as the next one, you can pick anyone.

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Shouldn't be a problem because nothing outside of the xfree86 source > package should depend on the xlibmesa packages directly (or deal with > it)? You just have to convince apt that replacing the then dissapeared foo3 by foo1 just because the l

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi Michel, thanks for the Cc: ... >> Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I still don't get it. There's no incompatibility between > > xlibmesa3-gl, xlibmesa4-gl and xlibmesa5-gl to come, so what's the > > point of the different names? The worst thing IMHO is > > x-window-system-co

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 03:09:11PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > And because the autobuilders don't like virtual build dependencies, > which is, i think, a worse problem. Please. That's a weak argument. If any package providing a virtual package is a good as the next one, you can pick anyone.

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi Michel, thanks for the Cc: ... >> Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I still don't get it. There's no incompatibility between > > xlibmesa3-gl, xlibmesa4-gl and xlibmesa5-gl to come, so what's the > > point of the different names? The worst thing IMHO is > > x-window-system-co

Re: Bug#86179: Regarding bug 86179

2001-09-16 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can someone who doesn't speak English help the submitter of bug 86179 to > make himself clear? Err... I guess you mean someone who speaks Japanese, but that's irrelevant. I think he's saying that if he logs in to the machine using xdm, the X

Re: Bug#86179: Regarding bug 86179

2001-09-16 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can someone who doesn't speak English help the submitter of bug 86179 to > make himself clear? Err... I guess you mean someone who speaks Japanese, but that's irrelevant. I think he's saying that if he logs in to the machine using xdm, the

Re: FYI: 4.1.0-0pre1v5 vs DRM vs linux 2.4.7

2001-07-22 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
[ Please observe Mail-Followup-To: if you don't mind, I susbcribe to *and* read debian-x, I don't need another copy on my inbox ] >> "Mike A. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Basically the DRM modules in 4.1.0 are not in sync with 2.4.7. I > > THis is correct. 4.1.0 DRM and 4.0.3 are

Re: FYI: 4.1.0-0pre1v5 vs DRM vs linux 2.4.7

2001-07-22 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
[ Please observe Mail-Followup-To: if you don't mind, I susbcribe to *and* read debian-x, I don't need another copy on my inbox ] >> "Mike A. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Basically the DRM modules in 4.1.0 are not in sync with 2.4.7. I > > THis is correct. 4.1.0 DRM and 4.0.3 ar

FYI: 4.1.0-0pre1v5 vs DRM vs linux 2.4.7

2001-07-22 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Attached is a series on messages from dri-users, the DRI users' list. Basically the DRM modules in 4.1.0 are not in sync with 2.4.7. I haven't checked, I don't use the mentioned .debs. It would be helpful if someone can deny or confirm this, as it would create more trouble for users trying to set

FYI: 4.1.0-0pre1v5 vs DRM vs linux 2.4.7

2001-07-22 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Attached is a series on messages from dri-users, the DRI users' list. Basically the DRM modules in 4.1.0 are not in sync with 2.4.7. I haven't checked, I don't use the mentioned .debs. It would be helpful if someone can deny or confirm this, as it would create more trouble for users trying to se

Re: Offlist Wishlist: DRI Kernel Modules

2001-07-18 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Warren Turkal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Do you all think you could package up the DRI kernel modules from the > x source tree? I don't even know where to get them. http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/dri/ has the DRM sources for both 4.0.3 and 4.1.0. You'll also find a drm.patch file

Re: Offlist Wishlist: DRI Kernel Modules

2001-07-18 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Warren Turkal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Do you all think you could package up the DRI kernel modules from the > x source tree? I don't even know where to get them. http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/dri/ has the DRM sources for both 4.0.3 and 4.1.0. You'll also find a drm.patch file

Re: some Radeon feedback on 4.1.0-0pre1v1.3 ...

2001-06-22 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Michel D?nzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > And no, "run the latest and greatest kernel" is not an option for most > > people. > > The current DRM code doesn't even build with 2.2 if you mean that. I know, but no, I don't mean that. In the current status some people just can't affor

Re: some Radeon feedback on 4.1.0-0pre1v1.3 ...

2001-06-22 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Michel D?nzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > And no, "run the latest and greatest kernel" is not an option for most > > people. > > The current DRM code doesn't even build with 2.2 if you mean that. I know, but no, I don't mean that. In the current status some people just can't affo

Re: some Radeon feedback on 4.1.0-0pre1v1.3 ...

2001-06-22 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://www.xfree86.org/~alanh/ > > until it's merged into the Linux kernel. Actually the xfree86 packages should provide a modules-dri-src kind of package. That would stop much of this madness. And no, "run the latest and greatest kernel" is

Re: some Radeon feedback on 4.1.0-0pre1v1.3 ...

2001-06-22 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://www.xfree86.org/~alanh/ > > until it's merged into the Linux kernel. Actually the xfree86 packages should provide a modules-dri-src kind of package. That would stop much of this madness. And no, "run the latest and greatest kernel" i

Re: Debian X FAQ updated

2001-06-20 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I wonder if there is a reasonable key combination to type an acute > accent (0xb4) on a (us) keyboard. If so, it wouldn't hurt to mention it. Multi_key,',' = ´, is the the correct character? -- Marcelo | If it wasn't for the fun and mone

Re: Debian X FAQ updated

2001-06-20 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I wonder if there is a reasonable key combination to type an acute > accent (0xb4) on a (us) keyboard. If so, it wouldn't hurt to mention it. Multi_key,',' = ´, is the the correct character? -- Marcelo | If it wasn't for the fun and mon

Re: Testing/mesademos

2001-04-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Jon Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Like Zeph said, though, the packages are most useful in source > *because* you can use different libGL implementations to compile > them. As I understand it (and I'm probably wrong), libGL > implementations vary in the DRI project from one famil

Re: Testing/mesademos

2001-04-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For instance gears is a /very/ standard benchmark Yes, I know, I'm hand picking a few of the programs to provide them as binaries... gears is, well, something someone early on picked as a benchmark because it's fillrate bound (more accurat

Re: Testing/mesademos

2001-04-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Jon Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Like Zeph said, though, the packages are most useful in source > *because* you can use different libGL implementations to compile > them. As I understand it (and I'm probably wrong), libGL > implementations vary in the DRI project from one fami

Re: Testing/mesademos

2001-04-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For instance gears is a /very/ standard benchmark Yes, I know, I'm hand picking a few of the programs to provide them as binaries... gears is, well, something someone early on picked as a benchmark because it's fillrate bound (more accura

Re: Testing/mesademos

2001-04-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Jon Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Absolutely! This is what I meant to say. Oh, sorry, I missunderstood. > Shipping the mesademos package in binary form does not make any > sense. There are too many libGL implementations floating around for > that. Actually, this is a temp

Re: Testing/mesademos

2001-04-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Jon Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Absolutely! This is what I meant to say. Oh, sorry, I missunderstood. > Shipping the mesademos package in binary form does not make any > sense. There are too many libGL implementations floating around for > that. Actually, this is a tem

Re: Testing/mesademos

2001-04-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Jon Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > /tmp/ccEMh1hu.o(.text+0x32a): undefined reference to `OSMesaCreateContext' > /tmp/ccEMh1hu.o(.text+0x35c): undefined reference to `OSMesaMakeCurrent' > /tmp/ccEMh1hu.o(.text+0x4f5): undefined reference to `OSMesaDestroyContext' Hmmm... please su

Re: Testing/mesademos

2001-04-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Jon Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > /tmp/ccEMh1hu.o(.text+0x32a): undefined reference to `OSMesaCreateContext' > /tmp/ccEMh1hu.o(.text+0x35c): undefined reference to `OSMesaMakeCurrent' > /tmp/ccEMh1hu.o(.text+0x4f5): undefined reference to `OSMesaDestroyContext' Hmmm... please s

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