Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-21 Thread Chad D. Zimmerman
On Mon, 15 Sep 1997, Riku Saikkonen wrote: Been watching this thread for a while now ... I feel now I may want to step in and just give some input. After being in web devlopment for last 4 or so years. > Sue Campbell wrote: > >As the webmaster, I probably should have stepped in earlier on this >

Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-21 Thread Riku Saikkonen
Sue Campbell wrote: >As the webmaster, I probably should have stepped in earlier on this >discussion. As was stated earlier, this was discussed a while ago >and the majority asked for white. Just so there is no accusations >of bias, I'll mention that I find the pure white background distracting. H

Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I am hesitant about stirring up this particular pile of worms again, but the last time around, I advocated putting the background colour in style sheets, so people have a little more leeway in over riding it. But I don't think strongly enough about it to champion the style

Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-15 Thread Mark Baker
On Mon, 15 Sep 1997, Sue Campbell wrote: > As the webmaster, I probably should have stepped in earlier on this > discussion. As was stated earlier, this was discussed a while ago > and the majority asked for white. Just so there is no accusations > of bias, I'll mention that I find the pure white

Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-15 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Mark Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > As for the iris opening wider -- I suspect that the overall lighting > of the room you're in has a greater effect than the coloring of the > page; that would seem to be why my vision specialist recommended a > brightly lit room, *not* just a local bright ligh

Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-15 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Sep 14, 1997 at 06:05:47PM -0400, Mark Eichin wrote: > > > high contrast. That's why books are printed on white paper and not > > (1) Paper Doesn't *GLOW* Second! > (2) spurious argument (the history has *nothing* to do with contrast: > black ink has less variation than white; printing

Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-15 Thread Sue Campbell
As the webmaster, I probably should have stepped in earlier on this discussion. As was stated earlier, this was discussed a while ago and the majority asked for white. Just so there is no accusations of bias, I'll mention that I find the pure white background distracting. I would ask that people d

Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-15 Thread Mark Eichin
Ah, I forgot about the rod/cone resolution difference. As for the iris opening wider -- I suspect that the overall lighting of the room you're in has a greater effect than the coloring of the page; that would seem to be why my vision specialist recommended a brightly lit room, *not* just a local

Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-15 Thread Bruce Perens
I too am willing to trust the judgement of the web team in picking the background and other esthetic issues. As an academic point, black type on a white background is the highest contrast you can arrive at for the _luminance_ sensing cells of the eye, which have at least two times the resolution o

Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-14 Thread Mark Eichin
> high contrast. That's why books are printed on white paper and not (1) Paper Doesn't *GLOW* (2) spurious argument (the history has *nothing* to do with contrast: black ink has less variation than white; printing white on black paper would be hard by comparison, and it isn't really known if it

Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-14 Thread Jeff Sheinberg
I find that there is a tremendous amount a glare produced on my terminal screen with a pure white background. I am HTML ignorant, but the offending command usually looks like this: in, e.g., http://www.debian.org and other assorted Debian info pages. The Netscape default, i.e., with BGCOLO

Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-14 Thread Mark Eichin
This was flamed about once before; you might check the logs for the comments from back then. (I'm fortunate that the two browsers I do use let me ignore all color specs in html, for pure white tends to flicker much more, which I find highly annoying.) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-m

Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-14 Thread Jim Pick
Jeff Sheinberg wrote: > I find that there is a tremendous amount a glare produced on my terminal > screen with a pure white background. Well, I disagree with the changing the colour to grey. I like white. Most people have a decent monitor, and the white background looks very nice. Leaving the b

Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-14 Thread Rob Browning
Mark Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This was flamed about once before; you might check the logs for the > comments from back then. (I'm fortunate that the two browsers I do use > let me ignore all color specs in html, for pure white tends to flicker > much more, which I find highly annoying.

Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-14 Thread Michael Shields
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeff Sheinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Netscape default, i.e., with BGCOLOR omitted, produces a nice, easy > on the eyes grey. This is not what the research has shown -- readability is produced by high contrast. That's why books are printed on white paper

Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-12 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Thu, 11 Sep 1997, Sue Campbell wrote: > > I'm planning to set up a "Debian Project Manual" which contains a chapter > > about the "History of Debian". So in case someone is working on this topic > > it would be good to coordinate our efforts. We could use the same text for > > that manual and t

Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-12 Thread Sue Campbell
> I'm planning to set up a "Debian Project Manual" which contains a chapter > about the "History of Debian". So in case someone is working on this topic > it would be good to coordinate our efforts. We could use the same text for > that manual and the web page. > Good idea. I'll certainly use it w

Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-11 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Jim Pick wrote: > Here's some feedback/corrections: > > about.html: > > * Ian Murdock started Debian. Ian Jackson wrote dpkg + the bug system. > (Suggetion: get Ian #1 to write a little history blurb) I'm planning to set up a "Debian Project Manual" which contains a

Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-11 Thread Michael Shields
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Pick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > why_debian.html: I think there are at least three different groups of OSes that people might choose instead of Debian: 1. Other Linux distributions, like Red Hat. 2. Other Unixes, like FreeBSD or Solaris. 3. Windows

Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-11 Thread Jim Pick
Here's some feedback/corrections: about.html: * Ian Murdock started Debian. Ian Jackson wrote dpkg + the bug system. (Suggetion: get Ian #1 to write a little history blurb) * I would link to www.kernel.org for the kernel information (that's Linus's web site). Wired had a nice artic

Re: proposed changes to Debian web pages

1997-09-11 Thread Joey Hess
Sue Campbell wrote: > I'd appreciate comments and suggestions on these before implementing > them in the main distribution. On about.html, it says Ian Jackson, but it was Ian Murdock who started Debian. I doubt the date was 1996, (I'm thinking earlier). -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM TH